What we learned today

3. Watson can't coach an offense.
Really? He coached a hell of a game last week, but can't coach this week. Even though he's only got the 3rd string QB and there's a 30 MPH wind out there.
And he continued to NOT run the wildcat but everytime he did (including abusing it and telling ISU we're running it over and over in the first TD drive) it worked!
The Wildcat worked pretty well, but ISU did stop it on at least 2 3rd downs I can think of - once in the 1st half and then in the 4th quarter. Watson mixed the Wildcat back in on the first play of overtime, and then used the zone read for the TD run. I give him credit for running it as much as he did without overdoing it.

 
3. Watson can't coach an offense.
Really? He coached a hell of a game last week, but can't coach this week. Even though he's only got the 3rd string QB and there's a 30 MPH wind out there.

Really?

He allowed Missouri to come back into the game when we should have "easily" blown them out in the 2nd qtr by merely running the ball when up 24 - 0. 2nd & short. 3rd & short. Just like today's game.

Run the ball?

Even when they can't stop our run? Even when it's our 3rd string qb? Even when facing a strong wind? Nope.....throw the ball all over the place and go 3 & out. Over & over.....

 
Watson caught Mizzou in some bad defensive schemes early, then was held to 7 points the rest of the game.

Hardly a "hell of a game" if you ask me.

Without our defense forced turnovers, we'd have lost by 3 TDs today.

Watson's had 3 years to develop Green. Look what it's produced.

Didn't you also want to mention Watson had the sun in his eyes as another lame excuse?
Do you have an ax to grind against Watson? He absolutely butchered the #1 run defense in the B12 last week. And that's with the starting QB on the bench for the 2nd half. How is setting the single-game rushing record NOT a "hell of a game"? Especially against that competition.

And without the 2 turnovers from us which led to 14 points, ISU only scores 10 points in regulation. I'm pretty sure we scored more than 10 even without the TO's.

And Watson has only had a year and a half with Martinez, and TM is looking better every game. I'm really impressed with his progress this season as both a passer and game manager.

Do you have any other lame straw man arguments you'd like to put forward?

 
He allowed Missouri to come back into the game...
Wow. Talk about reaching for reasons to discredit the guy. When was a 24 point lead not enough to win? And most especiall, how can anybody blame that on the offensive coordinator?

 
We need T-Mart.

I see why we don't blitz very often, every one was picked up perfectly by the ISU line. We don't seem to have any beastly inside pass rushers.

Rhoads has balls.

Seeing Texas absolutely melt down at K-State has made me forget about this game really quick.

 
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3. Watson can't coach an offense.
Really? He coached a hell of a game last week, but can't coach this week. Even though he's only got the 3rd string QB and there's a 30 MPH wind out there.

Really?

He allowed Missouri to come back into the game when we should have "easily" blown them out in the 2nd qtr by merely running the ball when up 24 - 0. 2nd & short. 3rd & short. Just like today's game.

Run the ball?

Even when they can't stop our run? Even when it's our 3rd string qb? Even when facing a strong wind? Nope.....throw the ball all over the place and go 3 & out. Over & over.....
We threw the ball 12 times today- out of 64 plays.

There is plenty to get on Watson about but you're grasping.

Or maybe I didn't understand your post?

 
Watson caught Mizzou in some bad defensive schemes early, then was held to 7 points the rest of the game.

Hardly a "hell of a game" if you ask me.

Without our defense forced turnovers, we'd have lost by 3 TDs today.

Watson's had 3 years to develop Green. Look what it's produced.

Didn't you also want to mention Watson had the sun in his eyes as another lame excuse?
Do you have an ax to grind against Watson? He absolutely butchered the #1 run defense in the B12 last week. And that's with the starting QB on the bench for the 2nd half. How is setting the single-game rushing record NOT a "hell of a game"? Especially against that competition.

And without the 2 turnovers from us which led to 14 points, ISU only scores 10 points in regulation. I'm pretty sure we scored more than 10 even without the TO's.

And Watson has only had a year and a half with Martinez, and TM is looking better every game. I'm really impressed with his progress this season as both a passer and game manager.

Do you have any other lame straw man arguments you'd like to put forward?

LOL! Whether I have an axe to grind against Watson is irrelevant.

Like me asking if you have a thing for Watson. Irrelevant.

But I guess Ad Hominem is what you use when you have nothing else.

Apparently what you do have is some basic reading issues. I posted Watson took advantage early

of some bad Missouri defensive schemes, then was held to 7 points the next

3 quarters and 5 minutes of the game. Hardly great offensive playcalling most of the game.

Sound familar? If your forget again, I can repeat it.

You're wrong about scoring more than 10 points w/o the TOs.

Martinez is a natural talent. Watson has little or nothing to do with his speed

or reflexes. Based on his performance developing Green, I doubt Watson has developed

much if anything in the quality of the kid's play.

 
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Oh, and what we learned....

The coaching staff doesn't trust Green very much and kept him on a short leash.

Burkhead in the wildcat is pretty effective.

The defense is Jeckyl and Hyde (to use some other posters words)

Niles Paul is a goof ball. He gets opportunities other players don't.

Paul Rhoads has huge stones

People will blame everything on Watson, no matter what. He may even pass Obama as the cause of Nebraskans' misery (he already might have).

This team plays to its level of competition.

We miss some of last year's seniors more than I thought we would.

 
Watson caught Mizzou in some bad defensive schemes early, then was held to 7 points the rest of the game.

Hardly a "hell of a game" if you ask me.

Without our defense forced turnovers, we'd have lost by 3 TDs today.

Watson's had 3 years to develop Green. Look what it's produced.

Didn't you also want to mention Watson had the sun in his eyes as another lame excuse?
Do you have an ax to grind against Watson? He absolutely butchered the #1 run defense in the B12 last week. And that's with the starting QB on the bench for the 2nd half. How is setting the single-game rushing record NOT a "hell of a game"? Especially against that competition.

And without the 2 turnovers from us which led to 14 points, ISU only scores 10 points in regulation. I'm pretty sure we scored more than 10 even without the TO's.

And Watson has only had a year and a half with Martinez, and TM is looking better every game. I'm really impressed with his progress this season as both a passer and game manager.

Do you have any other lame straw man arguments you'd like to put forward?


You're wrong about scoring more than 10 points w/o the TOs.

Martinez is a natural talent. Watson has little or nothing to do with his speed

or reflexes. Based on his performance developing Green, I doubt Watson has developed

much if anything in the quality of the kid's play.
No, He's right about the TO's. Helu's fumble at our 43 and Paul's at our 14. Both led to TD's and both short fields. You don't get to throw out our takeaways but keep theirs....well, you do to support your argument but it doesn't work.

Right, when a player is mediocre Watson isn't developing them but when we watch them grow it is bc/ of their own natural talent. Yep. I see your point. :moreinteresting

 
Oh, and what we learned....

The coaching staff doesn't trust Green very much and kept him on a short leash.

Burkhead in the wildcat is pretty effective.

The defense is Jeckyl and Hyde (to use some other posters words)

Niles Paul is a goof ball. He gets opportunities other players don't.

Paul Rhoads has huge stones

People will blame everything on Watson, no matter what. He may even pass Obama as the cause of Nebraskans' misery (he already might have).

This team plays to its level of competition.

We miss some of last year's seniors more than I thought we would.
I agree with everything you said.

I'd add:

Paul Rhoads has huge stones "and an ego to match".

That 2 point call was called to make him a star.

 
i also learned that bo hates half time interviews, especially when we are losing.
this. I know it bothers some people but it always makes me laugh.
i love it. i do not blame bo. an interview is the last thing a coach wants to do before a game or before halftime. how you like getting interviewed when you are trying to work? i know you can say, 'well it is their job', but it really is not. his job is to coach.

 
Watson caught Mizzou in some bad defensive schemes early, then was held to 7 points the rest of the game.

Hardly a "hell of a game" if you ask me.

Without our defense forced turnovers, we'd have lost by 3 TDs today.

Watson's had 3 years to develop Green. Look what it's produced.

Didn't you also want to mention Watson had the sun in his eyes as another lame excuse?
Do you have an ax to grind against Watson? He absolutely butchered the #1 run defense in the B12 last week. And that's with the starting QB on the bench for the 2nd half. How is setting the single-game rushing record NOT a "hell of a game"? Especially against that competition.

And without the 2 turnovers from us which led to 14 points, ISU only scores 10 points in regulation. I'm pretty sure we scored more than 10 even without the TO's.

And Watson has only had a year and a half with Martinez, and TM is looking better every game. I'm really impressed with his progress this season as both a passer and game manager.

Do you have any other lame straw man arguments you'd like to put forward?


You're wrong about scoring more than 10 points w/o the TOs.

Martinez is a natural talent. Watson has little or nothing to do with his speed

or reflexes. Based on his performance developing Green, I doubt Watson has developed

much if anything in the quality of the kid's play.
No, He's right about the TO's. Helu's fumble at our 43 and Paul's at our 14. Both led to TD's and both short fields. You don't get to throw out our takeaways but keep theirs....well, you do to support your argument but it doesn't work.

Right, when a player is mediocre Watson isn't developing them but when we watch them grow it is bc/ of their own natural talent. Yep. I see your point. :moreinteresting

We were talking about our scores, not ISUs.

How exactly can you determine how much Martinez has grown based on a few games?

And if he has, how can you claim it's Watson's doing?

Oh, I guess you can make any non-quantifiable claims to support your premise. Right.

 
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