Breaking down the Big Ten

EZ-E said:
Every team minus Iowa State in the Big Ten North has been in the top 10 (maybe the top 5?) in the past decade.

Mizzou - yes

Kansas - yes

KState - yes

CU - yes

ISU - No
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I believe that in 2002 ISU was at one point rated #9 by the AP before getting blasted by OU. So you could actually say that every team has been rated in the Top 10 the last decade.

 
Finally decided to read this thread...my take...

1) We "should" win our division. On paper we will be superior to each team we play in Lengends.

Saying Wisconsin will be so much more dominant than Nebraska - or Ohio State will be favored by 17 is too much for me. I believe we were favored in every game we played this year (maybe not Oklahoma). We managed to lose 4. Next year I don't see us being favored against a couple, but there won't be a huge gap in the spread...2-3 points. The schedule is not that far off from this year.

Chattanooga = WKU

Fresno State = Idaho

Washington = Washington

Wyoming = S. Dakota St.

Wisconsin = Missouri

Ohio State = Texas (this was going to be a blood game regardless of Texas being a 1-12 team or a 13-0 team)

Minnesota = Kansas State

Michigan State = Oklahoma State

Northwestern = Iowa State (always play us tough)

Penn State = Texas A&M

Michigan = Kansas (sorry Michigan fans but I think you'll have a down year w/ the changes)

Iowa = Colorado (always play us tough)

2) 90% of the arguments against this speculate the offense will lay an egg at least once, twice, or 3 times. valid assumptions based on recent history.

But I don't think the speculation is a solid argument at this point, though understandable. It's not factual in any way. It's based entirely on this year, or last year - and we all know that in college football a single variable (Cam Newton) can make the difference between finishing 8-5 one year, or 14-0 and MNCs the next.

Finally...who cares about Big12 vs Big10 anymore...we're Big10. Big12 sux :)

 
kchusker_chris said:
Finally decided to read this thread...my take...

1) We "should" win our division. On paper we will be superior to each team we play in Lengends.

Saying Wisconsin will be so much more dominant than Nebraska - or Ohio State will be favored by 17 is too much for me. I believe we were favored in every game we played this year (maybe not Oklahoma). We managed to lose 4. Next year I don't see us being favored against a couple, but there won't be a huge gap in the spread...2-3 points. The schedule is not that far off from this year.

Chattanooga = WKU

Fresno State = Idaho

Washington = Washington

Wyoming = S. Dakota St.

Wisconsin = Missouri

Ohio State = Texas (this was going to be a blood game regardless of Texas being a 1-12 team or a 13-0 team)

Minnesota = Kansas State

Michigan State = Oklahoma State

Northwestern = Iowa State (always play us tough)

Penn State = Texas A&M

Michigan = Kansas (sorry Michigan fans but I think you'll have a down year w/ the changes)

Iowa = Colorado (always play us tough)

2) 90% of the arguments against this speculate the offense will lay an egg at least once, twice, or 3 times. valid assumptions based on recent history.

But I don't think the speculation is a solid argument at this point, though understandable. It's not factual in any way. It's based entirely on this year, or last year - and we all know that in college football a single variable (Cam Newton) can make the difference between finishing 8-5 one year, or 14-0 and MNCs the next.

Finally...who cares about Big12 vs Big10 anymore...we're Big10. Big12 sux :)
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Finally! :corndance :corndance :corndance

 
Here's my take:

First Tier Games

Nebraska at Wisc and home vs OSU are toss ups. Probably split.

Second Tier

Wash, Mich State, at Penn State, Iowa

Probably lose no more than one of those games. PSU will be the toughest of those games. They will be better and it is at PSU.

Third Tier

NW & Mich - don't get caught on a down week or you'll have a loss. NW can suprise you once in a while. Mich is a big question mark and the game is at Mich.

I see 2 loses and possibly a 3rd. 2 losses and you're in a BSC game; 3 losses and you're playing an SEC team in Capital One bowl.

 
Creed said:
Here's my take:

First Tier Games

Nebraska at Wisc and home vs OSU are toss ups. Probably split.

Second Tier

Wash, Mich State, at Penn State, Iowa

Probably lose no more than one of those games. PSU will be the toughest of those games. They will be better and it is at PSU.

Third Tier

NW & Mich - don't get caught on a down week or you'll have a loss. NW can suprise you once in a while. Mich is a big question mark and the game is at Mich.

I see 2 loses and possibly a 3rd. 2 losses and you're in a BSC game; 3 losses and you're playing an SEC team in Capital One bowl.
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Wisky is a TOUGH TOUGH place to play. Especially at night and if it's a close game, you'll get no help in the 4th quarter, that's when their stadium gets extra rambuncious. To get a win their, you'll really want to make it easier for yourselves by getting up on them early.

Having OSU come to your place early and having the tat5 coming off suspension will benefit you pretty well so that game is a toss up.

If you lose any of the "2nd tier" games it'll strictly be to Iowa. PSU won't have improved that much and their stadium is identical to Wisky's unless you get up on them which I see the cornhuskers doing. Iowa has a hell of a gunslinger in Vanderburg(sp?). He did work when he took over for an injured Ricky Stanzi two seasons ago and I can only imagine how much better he's gotten now.

3rd tier, you'll run the table, unless m*ch*g*n really improved THAT much

 
walksalone said:
EZ-E said:
husker_99 said:
Husker fans need to get this through their heads:

THE THOUGHT OF BIG TEN SUPERIORITY IS FLAT OUT STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BIG TWELVE SCHEDULE WE PLAYED LAST YEAR WAS JUST AS TOUGH IF NOT TOUGHER THAN THE ONE THAT WE PLAYED THIS YEAR.

Anyone who thinks that the Tiny Ten is "hard-hitting" or that there is "week in and week out constant grind" in the conference did not follow Iowa all year. Nor did they follow any team that we will be playing for that matter.
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Did you watch Nebraska all year long? cause i don't think you did. Most people on this board knows that Wats costs us games this season. We won inspite of Wats not knowing how to run an offense. Wats still calling plays will costs us games next year too.
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:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

This is a terrible argument against anything that I have said. You clearly do not know Shawn Watson with the quote that I bolded. This whole board knows what I think about the current OC situation so I will not repeat myself on that. If you would have came up with an intelligent response using factual information and logic it would not be as easy to prove you wrong on all accounts.

The only game that you can make an argument about the coaching losing a game is the Bowl Game where the entire coaching staff lost us that game. Other than that, Watson did not cost us a single game last year. With the above stated you are trying to say that it all lies on the offense. Well, we return two QBs with experience, a workhorse running back with another very talented one coming in, we are deep along the OL, and we have some young talent at the WR spots. SJB and Kenny Bell to be specific. It is not out of the realm of possibility to think that we will be better on offense next year.

Did you not watch the Big Ten last year and the year before? They are NOT better than us. There is not a team in that league that we can't beat. People, like you that think we will go 7-5 are flat out stupid. The schedule is not that much tougher next year if it is at all.
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SuperBuckFan08 said:
you'll really want to make it easier for yourselves by getting up on them early.
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This kinda made me chuckle.

I'm assuming you mean like how we made it easy on ourselves and got up quick in the 2nd on South Dakota State then struggled the rest of the game? Or how we went up 24-0 on Missouri then almost let em back in? No - neither of those...I bet you're talking about how easy it was after we went up 17-0 on Oklahoma in the championship game only to watch them take that lead down to nothing in 8+ minutes of game time.

With our Watsonified offense - going up early doesn't make anything easy for us...because while we are likely to run off 17 points in 4 minutes of play...we're just as likely to go 3-out and never score again the the rest of the game. sigh* - such is the life of a 2010 NU football fan.

 
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Anyone, thinking we'll be terrorizing our half of the Big 10, will be seriously disappointed.

Jesee Palmer's dopey a$$ just said that unless our offense is better, we're going to not be that good.

 
kchusker_chris said:
SuperBuckFan08 said:
you'll really want to make it easier for yourselves by getting up on them early.
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This kinda made me chuckle.

I'm assuming you mean like how we made it easy on ourselves and got up quick in the 2nd on South Dakota State then struggled the rest of the game? Or how we went up 24-0 on Missouri then almost let em back in? No - neither of those...I bet you're talking about how easy it was after we went up 17-0 on Oklahoma in the championship game only to watch them take that lead down to nothing in 8+ minutes of game time.

With our Watsonified offense - going up early doesn't make anything easy for us...because while we are likely to run off 17 points in 4 minutes of play...we're just as likely to go 3-out and never score again the the rest of the game. sigh* - such is the life of a 2010 NU football fan.
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Heh....ouch!!

You know, it wouldn't hurt quite so badly SW getting stuffed for the rest of the game if he could at least get us a couple of 1st downs. The dude has "multiple" ways of going 3 & out, that's for sure.

Nothing strikes terror in a NU fan more than us running for 8 yds on 1st down and then full well knowing SW will see something shiny in the stands and then "sling it around" for another 3 & out. It ain't easy being us.

 
This kinda pains me to say, but Jesse has been right on stuff like this more often than not lately. The guy knows his stuff.

 
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