huskereddie
Three-Star Recruit
I hope that Miles is sooooooo successful that he leaves for greener pastures in a few years. He would be remembered as a legend!
OWH: Miles known for 'manic' enthusiasm
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PaulCrewe
Heisman Trophy Winner
And the likes of Matt Doherty(Roy WIlliams), Jeff Capel(Coach K), Tommy Amaker(Coach K), and Quinn Snyder(Coach K) are all continual proven comodities, that have sat to arguably the greatest minds in the game, and are being pursued for every openin out there??? Just because they sat on a bench of a genious doesn't equate to success for their careers.
And if Martin leaves KSU a week or two earlier, one of the top guys on their list(the top according to many) was Miles. And if you honestly think NU is currently a better coaching gig than KSU, you need to really step outside and think outside the box. or the lowerr half of the BOB
yogurt the wise
Three-Star Recruit
I'm not throwing a name out there. Manning gets hired to Tulsa a week after Miles get hired. Makes me wonder if Dr. Tom even asked him? There Are a lot of people that don't like this hire at all.We're tired of the hiring the same guy everytime we do a coaching search.
T_O_Bull
All-American
If you remember I was pushing for Rick Majeras and I don't recall any assistant from the schools you mentioned knocking on our door looking for a job. Being an assistant at Duke, UNC, ect., those assistant jobs are most likely seen as better positions that at a doormat B1G school.
As for Bo if I remember right Pederson and Calahan left our 'baby' with a lot of crap in its diapers.
T_O_B
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T_O_Bull
All-American
Every kid who goes to a big time school has his eye on the NBA. Let's face it SADler's brand of basketball would not, did not appeal to kids with NBA on their minds and I don't care how good the recruiter they just weren't going to come and play for Doc.
T_O_B
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T_O_Bull
All-American
Manning said no. Martin was on his way to something bigger and better, not looking to rebuild a program. Larry Brown is 71 and who knows if he would have considered NE afterall his jobs were all at high profile schools and pro teams. As for Flip he's not leaving the NBA. We acted right on time.
T_O_B
G>B>R
How do you know Manning said no? Martin went to South Carolina, where the last NCAA win was 1974 - that's not a bigger and better job, it is a re-build on the scale of Nebraska. If Larry Brown is considering the SMU job, I suspect he would have considered the Huskers' job. Media sources are reporting that Flip has told people he's interested in college coaching. Each of these individuals has experienced greater success in basketball than Coach Miles. Unfortunately, there is zero evidence we made any attempt to contact these coaches, and since we hired so early, we couldn't react when they publicly came available. We, as Huskers, need to stop making excuses for our failures; we need to recognize them and improve.
To be clear, I hope Coach Miles wins at Nebraska but, if he doesn't, we'll all have the feeling that oppoutuites were missed. On the other hand, perhaps this keeps basketball as the clear second class program in the Athletic Departing (which I'm okay with by the way).
Omaha-Husker
All-Conference
I guess I don't know why you guys are clinging to coaches that ended up at lesser jobs than Nebraska.
If Manning was such a commodity he would of ended up in a power 6 conference not Tulsa. If Larry Brown was a hot commodity he would be interested in a better job than SMU.
Frank Martin went closer to home. There is no way he would of stayed in the midwest for a lesser job than K St.
Seriously you guys want to see a better product on the court, but want to compete with the likes of SMU and Tulsa for coaches? That isn't going to get the job done here. If Manning ended up at an equal or better job than Nebraska then I can see the beef, but he went to freaking Tulsa!
If Manning was such a commodity he would of ended up in a power 6 conference not Tulsa. If Larry Brown was a hot commodity he would be interested in a better job than SMU.
Frank Martin went closer to home. There is no way he would of stayed in the midwest for a lesser job than K St.
Seriously you guys want to see a better product on the court, but want to compete with the likes of SMU and Tulsa for coaches? That isn't going to get the job done here. If Manning ended up at an equal or better job than Nebraska then I can see the beef, but he went to freaking Tulsa!
Come on. There were very few "power 6" jobs open. Illinois got Groce, the clear top candidate once Stevens/Smart said they were staying home. Nebraska hired Coach Miles before Manning, Martin, Brown, and Saunders announced they were available. The fact that they went to or are interested in "lesser jobs" is a reflection of the jobs available, not the quality of the coach. The problem is straight-forward: Nebraska panicked in response to the OWH article about Gregg Marshal, then it acted too soon and missed opportunities as a result.
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T_O_Bull
All-American
OK
OK here we go again. In the interviews I read Manning didn't sound interested in much of anything. I'm sure he ended up at Tulsa due to the fact that Bill Self coached there. As for his coaching record he doesn't have one. Frank Martin was a HS coach for 15 years and then an assistant on the college level. His record at KSU is an impressive 117-54. He's a Miami native and is of Cuban decent to believe he was going to be in the mid-west for the long term is foolish.
Couldn't find much on Flip Saunders but he didn't set the world on fire when he coached the Sioux Falls Sky Force and at least two of his stops in the NBA (The Minn. Timberwolves and the Wash. Wizards) have been disasters. Each of them were bottom feeders while he coached them. Larry Brown is still 71 and not getting any younger. Would have been in Lincoln for 3 maybe 4 years.
Now for our New HC.
Tim Miles
Coaching career
A successful coach in NAIA (Mayville State) and NCAA Division II (Southwest Minnesota State), Miles took over at North Dakota State in 2001. Shortly thereafter, the school declared its intent to reclassify from Division II and transition to Division I. The school would be ineligible for postseason play in its first five years of the transition, and was initially without a conference. On January 21, 2006, in just the school's second year in Division 1, NDSU pulled off a shocking 62–55 upset of #12 Wisconsin at the Kohl Center. The Bison, starting three redshirt freshman, ended Wisconsin's 27-game home winning streak against non-conference opponents. Miles would be named the Division I Independent Coach of the Year by CBS Sportsline.
The following season the Bison pulled yet another stunning upset. NDSU won at #8 Marquette in the championship game of the school's Blue and Gold Classic 64–60. The Bison would go on to finish 20–8, their best season under Miles. Of note, two years after Miles departed, at which time the school had since gained entry to the Summit League, the Bison made the NCAA Tournament under Miles' top assistant and successor, Saul Phillips, in their first year of eligibility primarily with the same players (as seniors) Miles had recruited and coached during their upsets of Wisconsin and Marquette.
On March 22, 2007, Miles was named head coach at Colorado State, replacing Dale Layer. Miles inherited just two players from the 2007 roster, and struggled to succeed early, going so far as to hold walkon tryouts to fill his first roster. After going winless in conference during his first season, Miles' teams improved gradually in the following years.
In May 2011, after winning 19 games and guiding CSU to its seventh appearance in the NIT during the 2010-11 season, he signed a 5 year contract with Colorado State.
The 2011-12 season saw Miles once again pulling upsets over ranked opponents. On January 28, CSU upset #12 San Diego State 77-60 at Moby Arena, marking the program's first win over a ranked opponent since 2004. Just over a month later the Rams stunned #18 New Mexico 71-63. Then, on February 29, Colorado State rallied from down 15 at half to defeat #17 UNLV 66-59. All three wins came at Moby Arena where CSU went 14-1, including 7-0 against Mountain West teams, the program's first perfect home season in conference play since 1960. Finishing with a 20-11 overall record, 8-6 in the Mountain West, Colorado State was awarded an at-large bid to the NCAA Tournament. It was CSU's first trip to the NCAA Tournament since 2003 and their first at-large bid to the field since 1990. The Rams were the 11th seed in the West Regional and fell to 6th seed Murray State.
On March 24, 2012 Miles was named the next head men's basketball coach at the University of Nebraska, replacing Doc Sadler.
Head coaching record
Season
Team
Overall
Conference
Standing
Postseason
1995–1996
Mayville State
17–11
9–3
1st
NAIA–II
1996–1997
Mayville State
18–11
10–2
1st
NAIA–II
Mayville State:
35–22
19–5
1997–1998
SW Minnesota State
16–11
7–5
3rd
1998–1999
SW Minnesota State
16–11
7–5
3rd
1999–2000
SW Minnesota State
18–10
12–6
4th
2000–2001
SW Minnesota State
28–7
17–1
1st
Div. II Elite 8
Southwest Minnesota State:
78–39
43–17
2001–2002
North Dakota St.
11–15
5–13
8th
2002–2003
North Dakota St.
20–11
9–7
4th
2003–2004
North Dakota St.
16–13
8–6
3rd
2004–2005
North Dakota St.
16–12
2005–2006
North Dakota St.
16–12
2006–2007
North Dakota St.
20–8
North Dakota State:
99–71
22–26
2007–2008
Colorado State
7–25
0–16
9th
2008–2009
Colorado State
9–22
4–12
8th
2009–2010
Colorado State
16–16
7–9
5th
CBI 1st Round
2010–2011
Colorado State
19–13
9–7
4th
NIT 1st Round
2011–2012
Colorado State
20–12
8–6
4th
NCAA 1st Round
Colorado State:
71–88
28–50
2012-2013
Nebraska
0-0
0-0
Nebraska:
0-0
0-0
Total:
283–220
First time poster here at Corn Nation - long time Hokie - even longer time Midwesterner - was raised in North Dakota, so I know Nebraska very well. Much respect for Corn Husker fans.
If what Andy Katz reported his true, Nebraska has made a great hire in Tim Miles.
Tim Miles has won in places that are traditionally VERY hard to win at.
Tim Miles started his coaching career at my undergraduate alma mater, Mayville State University (I went to graduate school at Virginia Tech). He had none, zero, nada resources and took the Mayville State University Comets to the NAIA playoffs - he did great at Southwest State University in Minnesota (Now Minnesota State - Southwest) - he did even better at North Dakota State University - helped a D1 program get off the ground (one that was just converting to D1) and get to their first NCAA tournament.
You know his track record at Colorado State - in five years with the Rams, he won more games every year finally taking them to the NCAA tournament - he is, my friends, a program builder.
The advice I have for Corn Husker fans is to be patient with him - because he will make you a winner.
His hire gives me a reason to cheer for Nebraska to do well in the Big 10.
Congratulations on what would be a great hire!!!
It appears he has been successful at every stop. 13 winning seasons to 3 losing [1st season at NDSU, 11-15 -- 1st and 2nd seasons at CSU, 7-25 and 9-22 -- His first season at CSU he had only 2 returning players and held walk on tryouts. He basically put an intramural team on the floor, a problem that was not of his making.]. His overall record is 283 and 220.
T_O_B
G>B>R
PaulCrewe
Heisman Trophy Winner
T_O there is no reason to rehash credible facts that have been presented in this entire thread supporting logical reasoning to this hire. If the "others" really want to know they can put forth the effort to read the thread.
It is just like Pelini and Taylor discussions there will always be a group the "support the team, but loathe the coach/player that is the guy". These are the ones that also think any amount of money should make the greatest coaches in the world want to come here, which honestly has been a pit where careers can go to die. And you are only fooling ones self if you don't think that there are MANY coaches in America that believe that.
It is just like Pelini and Taylor discussions there will always be a group the "support the team, but loathe the coach/player that is the guy". These are the ones that also think any amount of money should make the greatest coaches in the world want to come here, which honestly has been a pit where careers can go to die. And you are only fooling ones self if you don't think that there are MANY coaches in America that believe that.
T_O_Bull
All-American
So true PC. Tell ya what, how about you, me and Comish grab a cold one and refresh ourselver in different cities together?
T_O_B
G>B>R
