We're going to have to kidnap Frank

[knapplc]

You are reading way too much into this. Way too much.

 

[Fuzzy]

I know three guys who would be perfect to kidnap Frank Solich...



Satisfaction guaranteed!

Clearly these guys kidnapped Kenny Bell and Dr. Tom Osborne and brought them to Lincoln. Who says the same can't happen with Frank.

 

[Joe_5700]

I don't know how I feel about this "honor Frank" thing. Bottom line: had Callahan not been such a failure - we wouldn't be having this conversation. Everyone would have happily moved on. Whether his firing was right or wrong, justified or not - his entire legacy as a coach at Nebraska was not so much determined by what he did in his 6 years....but by what the guy that followed him did in his 4.

As a Head Coach, sure. As an Assistant and as a player, he deserves some recognition. Can't forget that he was on the staff for 25 years.

true, but I don't think people really see Frank as a former player/assistant anymore. They see him as a former HC. To me it just all seems like a "sorry you got fired by the previous staff" type of thing. Especially when it's Tom doing it - because Tom is the one that hand-picked Frank in the first place.

He played for 4 years, then coached running backs for 15 years followed by the 6 years that people really remember. I don't know, just seems far more like an apology than a recognition to me. It's not like there is a massive amount to recognize other than longevity.

This seems to be saying that nothing Frank did in his quarter-century of coaching here (you're forgetting the years he ran the JV team) was worth a round of applause. I hardly think that's the case.

I think dedicating over half his adult life to this program is worth 15 seconds of applause. Doesn't seem like too much for us to do, nor does it seem like some grand statement.

again - the basis for the argument is not accomplishment but instead longevity. I don't disagree with you - Frank spent a lot of time on the University of Nebraska. He's now a millionaire (likely many times over again) because of it. If Frank walks out there on that field for his 15 seconds of applause, then countless other coaches past/present in other sports, as well as numerous professors, researches and support staff that have dedicated equal or greater periods of their lives to the university should be there right beside him.

Edit: for a little perspective - Brown has 21 years as an assistant (not coaching JV).

Apples and Oranges. Brown is still part of the staff. Most of us think of Frank as a former player, assistant coach and head coach all at once. You just do not seem to repsect the guy or want to give him any credit whatsoever... His "failure" in his 6 years of coaching had many analysts wondering why he was fired in the first place. It was a miracle we even got someone like Callahan (who I knew from the start was going to be a failure) to agree to come here. That's a little perspective.

 

[WhatDoIKnow]

again - the basis for the argument is not accomplishment but instead longevity. I don't disagree with you - Frank spent a lot of time on the University of Nebraska. He's now a millionaire (likely many times over again) because of it. If Frank walks out there on that field for his 15 seconds of applause, then countless other coaches past/present in other sports, as well as numerous professors, researches and support staff that have dedicated equal or greater periods of their lives to the university should be there right beside him.

Edit: for a little perspective - Brown has 21 years as an assistant (not coaching JV).

For even more perspective, see the rounds of applause we've given to Milt Tenopir, Charlie McBride, and a few other assistants from the Osborne Era. See also the literally dozens of rounds of applause we've given past players.

I don't see how doing the same for Frank suddenly becomes an issue. :dunno

^Good Posting.

And hell yes Ron Brown will get a round of applause at Memorial Stadium when he comes back to visit "if" he ever retires.

We have given a "round of applause" to one former punter. (that guy played some baseball and coaches baseball someplace also).

 

[bshirt]

^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.

I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.

Nothing but good can come from that.

 

[Foppa]

^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.

I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.

Nothing but good can come from that.

I don't think it was a 'huge mistake' to fire him, but the decisions afterwards definitely were. Yes, he was a big part of the program, but I'd stop short of begging him to come back and groveling at his feet.

 

[Comish]

^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.

I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.

Nothing but good can come from that.

I don't think it was a 'huge mistake' to fire him, but the decisions afterwards definitely were. Yes, he was a big part of the program, but I'd stop short of begging him to come back and groveling at his feet.

If you knew Frank AT ALL, you'd never make that begging and groveling comment. The LAST thing he would want is to be a distraction.

 

[irafreak]

I met FS briefly in his son-in-laws bike store in Omaha once by chance. The man had the demeanor of someone who really didn't want the spotlight. The guy was part of Bob Devaney's first recruiting class if I'm not mistaken and was the first Husker to rush for 200 yards in a single game and the first Husker put on the cover of sports illustrated. People only see the Head coach that won 75% of his games.

 

[Polarhusker]

^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.

I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.

Nothing but good can come from that.

I don't think it was a 'huge mistake' to fire him, but the decisions afterwards definitely were. Yes, he was a big part of the program, but I'd stop short of begging him to come back and groveling at his feet.

Who said that you should grovel at his feet???????? It's only a opinion from fans. :confucius

 

[Foppa]

^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.

I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.

Nothing but good can come from that.

I don't think it was a 'huge mistake' to fire him, but the decisions afterwards definitely were. Yes, he was a big part of the program, but I'd stop short of begging him to come back and groveling at his feet.

Who said that you should grovel at his feet???????? It's only a opinion from fans. :confucius

Oh. Kidnapping. That's a better word from fans.

 

[druski_2k5]

I think it would be a nice gesture. There are so many connections that Frank has on the program and dating back to Devaney. That's what makes this place so special.

I thought he got a raw deal, I remember being vividly upset when he was fired, thought he was fixing some things. Firing a coach after 9-3, who then went on to finish 10-3, recovering from a disastrous 7-7 season the year before, was a step in the right direction. No, they weren't 1999 Nebraska, but I thought he bought himself some more time.

He faulted in recruiting a bit, got a little to bland on offense, his staff got older and he ended up going younger for 2003, but I thought his staff should have gotten another year in 2004. Then he could've retired whenever. I thought I read somewhere [Omaha World Herald??] that he was thinking about giving the job to Bo once he retired. I don't have it saved though, but I swear I thought I read that.

Regardless, I think this needs to be done. He was more than a head coach, but most only see him as that because how it ended here for him, but he did so much more than that.

I think the job was too big for him. Although if you're Osborne during 1997, who else do you hire?

I was a fan of Frank, and still am. But it just seems that the job "may" have been too big for him once Osborne's recruits were gone. The program did slip a little bit, but I thought at the very least, he was moving us in the right direction after Colorado 2003. I'm not going to comment on any personal issues because things have been said, some of it is probably true, but I don't know if that lead more to his firing than results on the field or not.

We are still paying for his firing and the Callahan disaster, hopefully we can put those away for good and Bo has a breakout season and we can move on from the whole thing finally.

 

[Polarhusker]

^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.

I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.

Nothing but good can come from that.

I don't think it was a 'huge mistake' to fire him, but the decisions afterwards definitely were. Yes, he was a big part of the program, but I'd stop short of begging him to come back and groveling at his feet.

Who said that you should grovel at his feet???????? It's only a opinion from fans. :confucius

Oh. Kidnapping. That's a better word from fans.

fans unlike you. :ahhhhhhhh I guess It's best to be negative all the time. :dunno

 

[Landlord]

6 rocky years? Try 1.5-2.5 rocky years...

1998 - 9-4

1999 - 12-1

2000 - 10-2

2001 - 11-2

2002 - 7-7

2003 - 10-3 (9-3 under Solich)

Aside from '02, his year-in year-out resume looks pretty much identical to TO's over the course of his career, with a possible exception of '98 since TO never had four losses.

 

[Nexus]

again - the basis for the argument is not accomplishment but instead longevity. I don't disagree with you - Frank spent a lot of time on the University of Nebraska. He's now a millionaire (likely many times over again) because of it. If Frank walks out there on that field for his 15 seconds of applause, then countless other coaches past/present in other sports, as well as numerous professors, researches and support staff that have dedicated equal or greater periods of their lives to the university should be there right beside him.

Edit: for a little perspective - Brown has 21 years as an assistant (not coaching JV).

For even more perspective, see the rounds of applause we've given to Milt Tenopir, Charlie McBride, and a few other assistants from the Osborne Era. See also the literally dozens of rounds of applause we've given past players.

I don't see how doing the same for Frank suddenly becomes an issue. :dunno

Just wanted to chime in with this tidbit for further perspective, albeit in a different sport. Some 2,500+ people were at Haymarket Park for the Nebraska-Northern Colorado baseball game last month. Former Husker baseball HC, Mike Anderson was in attendance to watch his son (who plays for Northern Colorado) and once word got around that he was there, he was greeted to a standing ovation by the crowd. Furthermore, when his son was announced up to bat, he also got a standing ovation. The crowd also roared when his son hit a double in his first at-bat appearance against Nebraska.

It's been almost one year since Anderson was fired, yet Husker fans who were at the park for that 2-day series still showed their appreciation for him and his family. Keep in mind that he had a lot of detractors within the fanbase that wanted him fired the past few years, which partly contributed to his dismissal last year.

Lastly, former Ohio State football coaches who were fired, John Cooper and Earle Bruce, have offices in the AD building on campus. Not sure why or what the setup is, but there was brief mention of this during the time of the Tressel firing. Apparently Cooper and Bruce are still welcomed at the school and are treated quite well by everyone there.

 

[T_O_Bull]

Caught this blurb at the bottom of Sipple's Spring Game options column. Funny stuff:

If Nebraska can't lure Frank Solich to campus for a formal recognition of some sort (this coming season?), it won't be for a lack of effort. Solich said last week that Husker assistant athletic director Jeff Jamrog has peppered him with calls. I get the feeling Jamrog and Tom Osborne might have to kidnap Solich to make it happen. Frank's still Frank — reluctant to be the center of attention.

If we gotta kidnap Frank to get him here, I say let's kidnap Frank to get him here. Our best two options would be:

11/10 - Penn State

11/17 - Minnesota

The Bobcats aren't playing either Saturday (they play Wednesday games those weeks) and they should both be pretty good games for the Huskers.

Frank deserves a round of applause. I say we get this done.

You have my vote Knap. Frank was a loyal Husker for many years and deserves a better last memory of Nebraska than the way Pedy treated him.

T_O_B

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