Apples and Oranges. Brown is still part of the staff. Most of us think of Frank as a former player, assistant coach and head coach all at once. You just do not seem to repsect the guy or want to give him any credit whatsoever... His "failure" in his 6 years of coaching had many analysts wondering why he was fired in the first place. It was a miracle we even got someone like Callahan (who I knew from the start was going to be a failure) to agree to come here. That's a little perspective.again - the basis for the argument is not accomplishment but instead longevity. I don't disagree with you - Frank spent a lot of time on the University of Nebraska. He's now a millionaire (likely many times over again) because of it. If Frank walks out there on that field for his 15 seconds of applause, then countless other coaches past/present in other sports, as well as numerous professors, researches and support staff that have dedicated equal or greater periods of their lives to the university should be there right beside him.This seems to be saying that nothing Frank did in his quarter-century of coaching here (you're forgetting the years he ran the JV team) was worth a round of applause. I hardly think that's the case.true, but I don't think people really see Frank as a former player/assistant anymore. They see him as a former HC. To me it just all seems like a "sorry you got fired by the previous staff" type of thing. Especially when it's Tom doing it - because Tom is the one that hand-picked Frank in the first place.As a Head Coach, sure. As an Assistant and as a player, he deserves some recognition. Can't forget that he was on the staff for 25 years.I don't know how I feel about this "honor Frank" thing. Bottom line: had Callahan not been such a failure - we wouldn't be having this conversation. Everyone would have happily moved on. Whether his firing was right or wrong, justified or not - his entire legacy as a coach at Nebraska was not so much determined by what he did in his 6 years....but by what the guy that followed him did in his 4.
He played for 4 years, then coached running backs for 15 years followed by the 6 years that people really remember. I don't know, just seems far more like an apology than a recognition to me. It's not like there is a massive amount to recognize other than longevity.
I think dedicating over half his adult life to this program is worth 15 seconds of applause. Doesn't seem like too much for us to do, nor does it seem like some grand statement.
Edit: for a little perspective - Brown has 21 years as an assistant (not coaching JV).
^Good Posting.For even more perspective, see the rounds of applause we've given to Milt Tenopir, Charlie McBride, and a few other assistants from the Osborne Era. See also the literally dozens of rounds of applause we've given past players.again - the basis for the argument is not accomplishment but instead longevity. I don't disagree with you - Frank spent a lot of time on the University of Nebraska. He's now a millionaire (likely many times over again) because of it. If Frank walks out there on that field for his 15 seconds of applause, then countless other coaches past/present in other sports, as well as numerous professors, researches and support staff that have dedicated equal or greater periods of their lives to the university should be there right beside him.
Edit: for a little perspective - Brown has 21 years as an assistant (not coaching JV).
I don't see how doing the same for Frank suddenly becomes an issue. :dunno
^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.
I don't think it was a 'huge mistake' to fire him, but the decisions afterwards definitely were. Yes, he was a big part of the program, but I'd stop short of begging him to come back and groveling at his feet.^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.
I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.
Nothing but good can come from that.
If you knew Frank AT ALL, you'd never make that begging and groveling comment. The LAST thing he would want is to be a distraction.I don't think it was a 'huge mistake' to fire him, but the decisions afterwards definitely were. Yes, he was a big part of the program, but I'd stop short of begging him to come back and groveling at his feet.^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.
I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.
Nothing but good can come from that.
Who said that you should grovel at his feet???????? It's only a opinion from fans. :confuciusI don't think it was a 'huge mistake' to fire him, but the decisions afterwards definitely were. Yes, he was a big part of the program, but I'd stop short of begging him to come back and groveling at his feet.^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.
I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.
Nothing but good can come from that.
Oh. Kidnapping. That's a better word from fans.Who said that you should grovel at his feet???????? It's only a opinion from fans. :confuciusI don't think it was a 'huge mistake' to fire him, but the decisions afterwards definitely were. Yes, he was a big part of the program, but I'd stop short of begging him to come back and groveling at his feet.^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.
I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.
Nothing but good can come from that.
fans unlike you. :ahhhhhhhh I guess It's best to be negative all the time. :dunnoOh. Kidnapping. That's a better word from fans.Who said that you should grovel at his feet???????? It's only a opinion from fans. :confuciusI don't think it was a 'huge mistake' to fire him, but the decisions afterwards definitely were. Yes, he was a big part of the program, but I'd stop short of begging him to come back and groveling at his feet.^ all went out on their own terms - with positive departures. I'm not saying Frank isn't necessarily deserving. Had Frank retried in 1997 I'm sure he would have gotten his applause for what he'd accomplished thus far. However, Frank left in a wake of turmoil that concluded 6 rocky years, and that isn't something that can be ignored, especially when anyone under 30-35 associates Frank with those 6 years, and not Frank the RB coach. His firing is pointed to as the first crack in a fan base that is becoming more and more divided by the year. Today, his applause is 50% recognition, 50% apology. An apology Osborne doesn't need to be making for Peterson IMO.
I think an apology is definitely in order. Firing Frank & Bo for a bowl winning 10 - 3 season was an amazingly stupid thing to do and we paid the FULL price for that moronic move with the Clownahan replacement. Let's own up to it like men, give him a round of thankful applause and show we know it was a huge mistake.
Nothing but good can come from that.
Just wanted to chime in with this tidbit for further perspective, albeit in a different sport. Some 2,500+ people were at Haymarket Park for the Nebraska-Northern Colorado baseball game last month. Former Husker baseball HC, Mike Anderson was in attendance to watch his son (who plays for Northern Colorado) and once word got around that he was there, he was greeted to a standing ovation by the crowd. Furthermore, when his son was announced up to bat, he also got a standing ovation. The crowd also roared when his son hit a double in his first at-bat appearance against Nebraska.For even more perspective, see the rounds of applause we've given to Milt Tenopir, Charlie McBride, and a few other assistants from the Osborne Era. See also the literally dozens of rounds of applause we've given past players.again - the basis for the argument is not accomplishment but instead longevity. I don't disagree with you - Frank spent a lot of time on the University of Nebraska. He's now a millionaire (likely many times over again) because of it. If Frank walks out there on that field for his 15 seconds of applause, then countless other coaches past/present in other sports, as well as numerous professors, researches and support staff that have dedicated equal or greater periods of their lives to the university should be there right beside him.
Edit: for a little perspective - Brown has 21 years as an assistant (not coaching JV).
I don't see how doing the same for Frank suddenly becomes an issue. :dunno
You have my vote Knap. Frank was a loyal Husker for many years and deserves a better last memory of Nebraska than the way Pedy treated him.Caught this blurb at the bottom of Sipple's Spring Game options column. Funny stuff:
If Nebraska can't lure Frank Solich to campus for a formal recognition of some sort (this coming season?), it won't be for a lack of effort. Solich said last week that Husker assistant athletic director Jeff Jamrog has peppered him with calls. I get the feeling Jamrog and Tom Osborne might have to kidnap Solich to make it happen. Frank's still Frank — reluctant to be the center of attention.
If we gotta kidnap Frank to get him here, I say let's kidnap Frank to get him here. Our best two options would be:
11/10 - Penn State
11/17 - Minnesota
The Bobcats aren't playing either Saturday (they play Wednesday games those weeks) and they should both be pretty good games for the Huskers.
Frank deserves a round of applause. I say we get this done.