majech

My first snowstorm since I had Directv, I was nervous, but zero issues.

1 point game in the 3rd???

I voted no. I don't think a team in a bowl game will throw at Fonzie much. That would just be retarded. Looking at our defensive players, teams should basically avoid Fonzie and David. The other 9 can be had, not D&D.

I'm worried for Nebraska next season. I'm thinking 4 loses, if not more

Looking at our schedule, tOSU is gonna be much better imo, Michigan will be much better, imo. Wiscy will drop a little without RW, but will still be Wiscy and we have quite the gap to close after the 48-17. Southern Miss will be no slouch and just thumped Houston, for whatever that is worth. That leaves NW, MSU, and Iowa all of whom should be solid to tough opponents.

Looking at us, we've lost huge difference makers in Dennard and David, not to mention Crick. And what worries me more is that I've not been overly impressed with what is behind them. Our secondary struggled a lot and while And Green got better, his is still a LONG ways from Dennard and I've not been impressed with what Raymond has shown for player development. At LB, Compton has improved a lot, but will never be near the type of player that David is. And our front 4 has struggled outside of Baker.

Offensively we return a lot of players, but I just don't think we have established a lot offensively. We've established that we'll be "multiple" and will run whacked out plays from game to game, but I don't' think we've really established much to build on long term. Rex will be Rex, TMart will be TMart, and we'll have lot of young players that didn't develop a lot this season, i.e. Turner, Green, Heard, etc.

I really, really, really hope I'm completely off base, but I see a lot of struggles next season.

we dont need leach....... what this team needs is eddie van halen on guitar

And more cowbell.

Great offenses that win championships RUN the ball, not throw it. When you need to punch it in from the 2-yd line, you run it. Even Oregon's offense has showed that this area is the fall-off of a spread offense. They fail to convert in tight situations. So no thanks. I'm content with the path that we are on.

 

The 2010 Green Bay Packers disagree with you...

 

There is an exception to every rule...

 

2009 New Orleans Saints.

The Saints actually had a good running game. They preferred to pass as the NFL basically dis-allows covering WR's, but when the Saints wanted and, more importantly, needed to run the ball, they were actually pretty darn good at it. I remember going into that Super Bowl debating with my friends about who would win. They all picked Indy, but I was all Saints. They could pass as well as Indy, but also run the ball. Saints won.

I'll give you the 10 Packers, but not the Saints. I could probably give you pages of teams that show how important running the ball is.

How about this stat? Since 2000, teams in the NFL that have rushed the ball 30 or more times while passing 20 times or less are 223-19 (0.921). That is impressive.

Great offenses that win championships RUN the ball, not throw it. When you need to punch it in from the 2-yd line, you run it. Even Oregon's offense has showed that this area is the fall-off of a spread offense. They fail to convert in tight situations. So no thanks. I'm content with the path that we are on.

 

The 2010 Green Bay Packers disagree with you...

There is an exception to every rule...

Being successful in the NFL does not mean you'll succeed in college. See Bill Walsh. One of the best ever in the pro's, had a losing record in college.

I think ppl can succeed at both, but I honestly do not believe the same approach can be successful at both. There is a big difference in coaching college kids that you have to recruit and coaching paid professionals that you draft.

Just out of curiosity, how many conference titles or championships has this totally unstoppable offense won?

Whatever happens to Carl has no bearing on Barney. Are you getting paid to start dumb threads?

Kinda makes you wonder.

I was driving across the state of Iowa today and was thinking of Husker football. For some reason I got to thinking of how this season, at least on the surface, compared to 2003 which resulted in the firing of Solich. In both seasons we finished 9-3, in both seasons we had just revamped our coaching staff, in both seasons we had some very ugly losses, in both seasons we lost late to get knocked out of the ccg, and in both seasons our regular season final ranking was in the 20's. We actually had a worse loss this season than we did in 2003, but we also had a close loss this season which we did not have in 03. The two seasons seem surprisingly similar.

 

I cannot imagine seeing Bo fired at this point, but we saw that happen in 03 and it was not shocking. Looking back, I'm not sure we are much different now than we were then, but our road has been much worse than it would have been had Solich not been fired, imo. With all we have been through and all the changes I just find it interesting to see that we've gone "full circle." And for the record, this is not intended to be a fire Pelini thread, it is just an observation that I find interesting.

I actually disagree with that part. I thought it was very shocking when Solich got fired. As everybody else said though, the man running the show Pedey boy, was a bit out of his league. I would feel the same level of shock if Bo was to be let go anytime soon. These coaches have got to get more time to do their jobs. We don't want to look like the idiots running the program down in Kansas.

 

+1000 Majech, were you locked in a closet when this went down? It was huge and very shocking news that a 9 win coach was fired. There were many articles and comments made on ESPN in regards to it. Why do you think we had such a hard time hiring a new coach? Callahan was like our 6th pick? The previous 5 turned us down because you would have to be a complete fool to work for a guy that fires you after a 9 win season.

I'm not saying he should have been fired. It was ridiculous to fire a HC during a 10 win season coming off of a 7 win season. I guess what I was saying about it not being shocking is that there had been grumblings about the possibility of him being fired for some time. Even the year before, there was talk of him being fired. While if definitely ignited a fire-storm, there had been some indicators especially after the loss to KState in Lincoln. Many speculated that a win over Colorado would help, but Pedieshine had already made up his mind.

I was very surprised, and actually disappointed in Husker fan, to have seen so many Iowa fans in the stadium that day. I sit in the north end zone and assume I'm surrounded by season ticket holders seats. I had 4 Iowa fans next to me, 2 right in front of me, and 2 immediately behind me not to mention all the Iowa fans near me which were not within reach.

I was shocked to see such apparent apathy for the last game of the season with 9 wins on the line against a team has is our next appointed "rival". While I'm not sure they will ever be our rival, going to the last game of the season, on a beautiful day, on Thanksgiving Friday, seems special to me.

While I was disappointed in Husker Fans for selling their tixs to Iowa fan, or to public places to be purchased by Iowa fan, I actually have fun sitting by them. Their energy was great early on, they were knowledgable, and they were fun to jokingly jab with back and forth. I'm just very glad that we were beating them bad enough to watch them stream out of the stadium earth in the 4th quarter.

The next time they come to Lincoln, Husker nation needs to do a better job of protecting our house.

GBR

I was driving across the state of Iowa today and was thinking of Husker football. For some reason I got to thinking of how this season, at least on the surface, compared to 2003 which resulted in the firing of Solich. In both seasons we finished 9-3, in both seasons we had just revamped our coaching staff, in both seasons we had some very ugly losses, in both seasons we lost late to get knocked out of the ccg, and in both seasons our regular season final ranking was in the 20's. We actually had a worse loss this season than we did in 2003, but we also had a close loss this season which we did not have in 03. The two seasons seem surprisingly similar.

I cannot imagine seeing Bo fired at this point, but we saw that happen in 03 and it was not shocking. Looking back, I'm not sure we are much different now than we were then, but our road has been much worse than it would have been had Solich not been fired, imo. With all we have been through and all the changes I just find it interesting to see that we've gone "full circle." And for the record, this is not intended to be a fire Pelini thread, it is just an observation that I find interesting.

I enjoyed the Iowa fans as well. I was pretty disappointed that they were able to get so many tickets to the game, but I had fun with all the Iowa fans sitting by me.

Well, I'm not sure of the stats, but my guess is that Iowa didn't muff a kick to start the second half, fumble all over the place, rough the kicker, and make all the other dumb...dumb....dumb mistakes we did when they played Michigan. That game was also at Iowa.

I bet they also didn't run lots of zone read and option at the defensive coordinator that was at Florida when Tebow was there. Mattison probably learned a little about ZR and option ball under Urban Meyer with Tebow.

It's on the 3rd or 4th page where the poster who started the thread said that he didn't think it was a sellout unless every seat was filled.

lol

I don't think water is wet or the sky is blue, discuss.

How long did Solich last? Four years or five? He was fired after a 10-3 season.

He was fired by an idiot though. What Steve Pederson did doesn't pull much weight around here, at least it shouldn't imo.

In the end, Osborne needed 9 years to win a conference title outright (1981).... but early in that season, the Huskers were 1-2 and getting booed at home. One of the very first games I went to was a game against Auburn where we had lost the week before and were down 3-0 at halftime. That's when Turner Gill came in and changed everything.

 

Shatel's article is interesting because it points out a key difference between Tom and Bo in terms of expectations - Osborne got 9 years, but Pelini may not have that luxury only because the years preceding him were obviously much darker than the ones that immediately preceded Osborne (*ahem* 70-71) so the "win now" segment is much more vocal, having sat through most of the last decade of futility without any trophies.

 

Which to me is the massive hypocrisy in all this. If it was so bad for that 4 years, then why in the hell are we in meltdown mode after 4 straight 9 win seasons, and possibly a 3rd straight 10 win season. I know everyone is ready for that next step that shouldve been taken already, but I still cant understand why some dont accept this as an improvement from the previous status quo.

I've never considered what Callahan did here as the status quo. He was a moronic outlier. The Nebraska "standard" in my mind is Devaney, Osborne, & Solich. Holding a coach to the 93-97 stardards is not reasonable, but holding him to the 04-07 standards is not reasonable either.

Lord's numbers, quite the running back... He didn't start until he was a Junior so his Junior/Senior numbers are here. For all of the talk about how bad Taylor's throwing motion is, he is much better at completing passes than past QBs. I don't think most of us remember how truly awful the QBs used to be at passing.

 

Imo, Tommie Frazier was the greatest QB we've had. In his Fresh/Soph seasons he passed or ran the ball 540 times while accounting for 41 TD's and 9 Int's. Tmart, who would not be in my top 10 QB's, passed or ran the ball 776 times while accounting for 42 TD's and 14 Int's. I'm not intended to bash TMart at all, but I think a huge problem with our offensive philosophy is that we use TMart way too much. His weaknesses are exposed much more as a result and teams are able to game plan out his strengths much more. It was very difficult for team to take Frazier out of the game as we were using other weapons.

I think we'd be much better served if we didn't base our offense around TMart and used him more as an addition to the offense.

You guys joke about it but that is exactly the way it was. There was a round of it in the late 70's (Osborne can't beat Oklahoma) then in the late 80's and early 90's (Osborne can't win the big one). At the time some of that talk didn't seem all that unreasonable. But, in hindsight, I think we can all agree the steady stable path was much more conducive to building a dynasty and achieving 3 NC's in 4 years and playing for quite a few more than that. We've seen and experienced the program destruction path under Pederson. Anybody that is already on the Bo needs to go train is either too young, too stupid or both. And I don't use stupid or idiot lightly, I just don't don't know any other way to put it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when it is potentially destructive, we're also entitled, no required, to tell them so.

I don't know about the 70's, but I didn't get that feeling from the 80's and early 90's. While there were definitely some naysayers, they seemed to be a small minority. There are always going to be idiots. The challenge is knowing who the idiots are. Just because someone thinks a coach sucks, doesn't mean they are wrong. The Bill Callahan supporters bashed and said ridiculous things about the fans that thought he sucked....turns out they were right and the BC supporters had crow to eat. I'm not saying Bo sucks, but I'm saying that there is nothing wrong with legit criticism.

I really hate to say it, but there is FAR more truth in that list of stuff than I'd like to admit....

Look, articles like these frustrate me. This isn't an "all or nothing" situation.

 

 

Just because a fan is critical of Bo doesn't mean she/he thinks Bo should be fired. Just because we criticize the game played doesn't mean we are, to paraphrase Will Compton, "the world."

 

 

I had concerns about Solich too, but I definitely didn't think he should have been fired in 2003 -- that staff deserved more time. And, frankly, I think that staff had some serious potential.

 

 

Bo will earn his contract or get fired all on his own.

 

 

But self righteous, passive aggressive junk like that is what really causes division.

 

Best line in the whole article... "Which leads you to wonder, do Husker fans even know a good coach when they see one?". My guess mainly NO. Unless they win a NC, the fans he's speaking of will think coaches are bums.

Just out of curiosity, why do you say no? Keep in mind that no coach will ever get a 100% approval rating. I wasn't around for Devaney, but I bet he was revered. I was around for TO, pre and post 90's. While there were naysayers before the mid-nineties, the majority of Husker Nation loved TO.

Solich followed TO and there was a lot of disention with Solich even if we don't consider all the crapola caused by Peterson. Love him or hate him, I'm not sure a very strong case can me made that Solich was great coach. Was he a good coach? Maybe, maybe not, the early firing ended the possibility of a final verdict being passed imo, but the program did slip a lot under his direction.

The next coach was Bill Callahan, clearly not a good coach. Some liked his offense, but we are talking about Head Coaches, not offensive style. Huskers had 2 losing seasons in 4 seasons....not a good coach. A large portion of Husker Nation did not like Bill, and it was shown that he was not a good coach.

This is Bo's 4th season and there have been many improvements, but I'd say the jury is still out on him, but I think it should be. He has only been a HC for less than 4 seasons. I'm not sure any coach can be qualified as good, bad, or ugly, well, maybe ugly, in their first four seasons. I honestly think that Bo could go on to be a great HC, but I could also see him going on to being just another elite coordinator that wasn't HC material. I'm not bashing, just saying the jury is out. Some of Husker nation are "Bolievers" and some don't think he has what it takes. Overall, I don't think "Husker Nation" has really decided how good, or bad, Bo really is as a HC.

Bo has continually grown, adjusted, and makes effort to improve, which is vital to a young HC imo. I hope Bo is here for 20 more years and wins several NC's, but we'll have to wait and see if he can grown into greatness.

All in all, I'd say the Husker faithful have been pretty good in spotting a good HC. They spotted two great ones, spotted one that was close, but didn't quite cut it, and spotted one that was a lumpy turd despite all the Pedieshine that was rubbed on it.

I was born in Iowa.

I was raised in Iowa.

We moved to Stillwater, Ok for a year and a half...

Then moved back to Iowa.

I graduated high school in Iowa.

I went to college in Iowa.

Despite all those setbacks, I'm proud to say that I was born a Husker, I bleed Husker red, and I will die a Husker. I cannot wait to sit in Memorial Stadium on Friday and cheer on the Huskers.

GO BIG RED BABY!!!

Okay, I'll admit you guys make some good points. Maybe it's not a good idea. Just food for thought for a slow Tuesday.

This has been a good post. Somebody called you out, but while I disagree with you, I've enjoyed the discussion. This forum would suck if ppl didn't post topic of conversation.

When the player commits to a university, the player cannot go to another school of the same level without sitting out a season.

 

 

This isn't true for a guy who hasn't played a snap. If he didn't play for the whole year, then he redshirted and can immediately transfer.

Oh, so after one red-shirt season just kick the bum to the curb? Or are you saying that players should bail on us after one red-shirt season? Ether way it's no good. If a player wants to bail, I say good riddance. If a player is doing what they been asked to do, I have no problem honoring the commitment to them. Actually, I think that should apply in all aspects of life.