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There is no controversy. Vedral is a great BACKUP, but we have our guy in Martinez.

ILLINOIS STATE CHAMPIONS!!!!!!

Once again your assumptions are wrong. In fact I do have season tickets this year. Can I ask a serious question. Why do you hang out and post on a Husker fan message board when you absolutely never have anything positive to say about the program? Is it solely to defend the legacy of Bo Pelini, because that is the only time I ever have seen you say anything remotely positive concerning anyone or anything connected to Husker football. Speaking for myself, I find it highly annoying and it appears to be a very sad existence.

Frost said it best in the Illinois post game. He has the evidence to prove a majority of calls go against the Corn Huskers. This conference has made us house rich, but at what cost?? To turn our weekends into a fun get together to drink and watch us get our asses kicked?? Absolute incompetent officiating, rigged schedules, and worst of all absolute boring traditions and teams. The leadership at the University pissed our traditions down the drain, and worst of all cut our lifeline off to the massive population of the south. Texas kids accounted for a large part of the roster and kept our heads above water for a long time. Was playing in the world's nicest stadium for a title game that bad?? The honey moon is long over, it's time to go back. and I'm sorry to any of you too young to not remember the vastly superior story lines we had within the big 12. Cheers I won't log in again.

Pure class.

The snaps are NOT improved. 2AM saved a couple of them from sailing past him, including on one of Wan'Dale's touchdowns.

Then this is just irresponsible journalism. He wrote a head line that makes it sound like the support for Frost is waning and stuck it behind a pay wall.

When we get better on the O-line we’ll be better and can compete. Until then...

Kicker Michael Lantz Adam Devine Def Coordinator Joseph Rossi the guy on this bottle of wine

It's painfully obvious watching this game vs Ohio State that we're still a LONG ways away from having the talent we need to match up with the top teams in the country - especially at O Line. I have no doubt in my mind we will get there under Scott Frost, but it's gonna take time. No need to freak out, call for coaches to get fired, or for players to get benched. Hang in there. Better times are ahead.

The last 4 years, Nebraska averaged the 22nd best recruiting classes (247). While there has been a high attrition rate, we have recruited at levels higher than 2/3 of the Big Ten. Iowa, the 14 ranked team in the country, averaged the 42nd. They have been much better than us in that span and it has more to do with having an identity than strong recruiting. Also, Colorado averaged the 50th best class over the last 4 years and beat us both times and currently have a first year head coach. People need to stop using the recruiting excuse. Yes, teams like OSU will generally beat the Nebraska’s of the world, but it doesn’t have to be a beat down like today. Nebraska has some coaching issues and a mentality problem.

There will be a huge group of recruits, Game Day, a marquee top ten opponent, a night game... Should be one hell of a day in Lincoln win or lose.

Man, between the Scott Fraud threads (was sooo looking forward to #3) and ones like this, it's time to ask the tough questions...has HB properly sprayed the doorways and foundations for trolls? Pretty thick out here this time of year. I believe you can pick up Troll-b-Gone in a 5 gallon bucket at Lowe's.

They didn't quit against Ohio Stste last year, they didn't quit last week against Illinois. Yesterday's outcome is pretty simple. Ohio State is probably the best team in the country right now, it's not even really debatable looking at their body of work. Our Offense is hindered by inexperience on the line and a QB that can't seem to get out of his own head and has regressed in his Sophomore campaign thus far.

This team for once got punched in the mouth and answered back with their own punch! Martinez from last year finally showed up! Wandale is ridiculous and we're lucky to have him! Washington has so much heart to keep grinding through that injury and fighting! The defense for once wasn't gassed at the end of the game and that's all from the offense helping them out and keeping them off the field! We've gotta clean up the penalties and turnovers somehow, we would've destroyed them if we didn't do that to ourselves! Illinois...............man can they hit!

-We really are putting the “next man up” mentality to the test. -Vederal looks and plays better than Martinez. Hands down. -Cam Jurgens needs to be replaced ASAMFP; his high snaps killed drives and our offense. -B1G officials are garbage, but they blocked well for NW. -We’re 4-2 and have a good chance to make a bowl game. That’s the immediate goal, and we’re close. -Also, this was a close game that we won. We used to lose these, and it’s progress (of a sort)

Then it would cost more than $5. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Let us stand by the road

Someone seems confused It was Saturday.

I'm hoping this topic looks silly at the end of November, but it's worth asking about. We're 2-1 on the season. We NEED to get to a bowl game this year. The premise of this thread is that a 6-6 season won't guarantee a bowl bid. We need seven wins. That said, where are the other five wins on the schedule? How hard will it be to get there? Or if this is crazy-pants talk, tell me we've got this in the bag. For the record, based on the first 1/4 of the season, I see it panning out like this: Illinois - Win Ohio State - Loss Northwestern - Win Minnesota - Win Indiana - Win Purdue - Win Wisconsin - Loss Maryland - Win Iowa - Loss I have pretty good confidence picking wins for: Illinois, Minnesota, and Indiana. Illinois being the most confident, with Minnesota and Indiana being basically "pretty sure." I think we out-talent these teams enough that unless we royally screw up, we're not going to lose. I have pretty good confidence picking losses against: Ohio State, Wisconsin & Iowa. The Buckeyes just have too much talent, and Day has gotten their ducks in a row after last year's curious malaise under Urban. I think Wisconsin & Iowa are still just too good at what they do, too good at playing error-free ball, and too good at finishing games for me to be confident in a win. But I'm less confident we'll lose to these two than to Ohio State. That leaves Northwestern, Purdue and Maryland. I think we can beat all of these teams - should beat them. But nothing is ever easy against Northwestern, and we've lost to them three of the last four years. With Purdue, I'm just more confident in what Brohm is doing there than I am with what Fleck is doing at Minnesota, and that gives me pause. Plus with it being a road game just before Wisconsin, maybe we overlook them. Still, we have a Bye between Purdue & Wisconsin, so maybe that's an unwarranted fear. With Maryland, I just don't know what we're going to see. I don't know how they score 60+ points against two early victims, then lose to Temple. Which team do we see? I think we win, but this is also a potential look-ahead game to Iowa, who comes to Lincoln just six days after this game. So, basically, I have five wins in the bag - the two we already have, plus Illinois, Minnesota & Indiana. Maybe a couple more from Northwestern, Purdue & Maryland. I think we're going bowling. It's a question of who we beat to get there.

Uggg...Soooooo what happens to Wan'Dale??? Does he end up playing college ball??? f#&% these paywalls!

Now, if we had Bo's bad behavior but guaranteed national championships? Hell yes we would take it. Bo's behavior versus his coaching ability sort of reminds me of this chart: In this case, "hotness" can be defined by victories/championships. Bo didn't win enough to justify his conduct. He wasn't above that line. I mean, Nick Saban is an a$$hole too, but no one wants to fire him. If he lost 4 games every year, Bama would $h!tcan him as well.

Gameday is going to be at Georgia this weekend when they host Notre Dame. Wouldn't they most likely not want to go to ND the week after already being at one of their games?

I keep going back to the O line on this issue. I think it was Frost that said after the game that it's very disappointing to see our O line get pushed around like they did. He claims he saw them push iron in the weight room. It's not a strength issue. I believe him on that. So, that leaves technique or effort. Right now, I have to believe it's effort and the lack of effort is leading to bad technique. You have to go up to the line with the attitude you are going to kick the guy's a$$ across from you every play. I'm not seeing that. Now, obviously this doesn't apply to trying to block someone like Young from OSU. There hasn't been anyone that's been able to block him all year. But, when you see a guard get totally pancaked in a bull rush where he didn't hardly even slow down the defender......that's lack of effort that leads to lack of technique. I think this is what Frost is trying to get to by saying this to the team.

It really is unbelievable how bad this line in. Cam is the best blocker on the line and right now I don't think it's close. I thought our tackles were bad, but after last game it is definitely the guards. Hixson should not see the field unless we are up 4 scores. It is really sobering that Foster and Farmer, who many and myself have criticized numerous times were much better than what we are seeing today. Austin needs to shuffle some things up in this bye week or we are gonna be in for another long game against an Indiana team who looks much improved. Jaimes- Wilson- Jurgens- M. Farniok- Benhart

I bet you’re super fun at parties.

I know he says "don't yell at them" but I don't think he means don't raise your voice at them, because he clearly did that today. He means don't criticize them without teaching and coaching them to be better. Which is strong leadership. You don't berate people to get them to perform better, you let them know what they did wrong and how to fix it.

A chance to equal all our strife

In the battles we go through in life

The people saying a loss would be disastrous are the same people that are saying it's just Northwestern. I think they're both wrong. Leading up to yesterday, Nebraska had won at home once, and it was on a hail mary. With the exception of 1 game, the games have always been close. Nebraska is not the only "big" team that Northwestern gives issues, either. Yeah, ugly win and there's some serious questions about the offense, namely the lack of a game breaking, tall WR. Noa has been largely a passenger in the offense. Stanley Morgan Jr was a bigger loss than we may have thought. But these are the games that must be won if Nebraska is going to make it's way back to where it wants to be. A 13-10 win is miles better than a 13-10 loss.

The reality is fear of failure is a great catch phrase. BUT when there is no accountability for said failure it creates issues. If I was Farniok, I'd start wondering WTH. I practiced hard, bust my a$$ and a converted TE, injured throughout camp is the starting center and does poorly in each and every game, I'd start to get pi$$ed. Especially when there is no accounabity that I can see as the mistakes are repeated game in and game out.

We get better and better!

Well we aren't Bama or OSU. We have to develop talent and win before recruits turn their attention to us. Until proven otherwise we are a 4-8 program. Stars do matter, but we won't get the ones we want until we develop the ones we get and show it on the field.

Worst Thread Award

This team is too inconsistent to only lose 1 more time this season, even with that schedule. Wisconsin has to be penciled in as an L at this point. NW always plays them hard, so I won’t take this past week as Wisconsin’s standard moving forward. That means Nebraska has to go 3-0 on the road, which has been a struggle for this squad the past couple of seasons. Get to 7 wins and a bowl game, and I’ll be happy at this point.

This is my issue but if it fits what they are doing concept wise I think it will be ok. As long as you can relate it to a concept that we already run it is fine and if anything triple option out of the I is a simplified version of RPO(obviously) Also to those asking if we have a FB on the roster, what do you think Mills did at GT??

The three ints had nothing to do with line play

After falling behind 14-0, Nebraska changed it's offensive playcalling and marched deep into Ohio State's territory. It honestly felt like they were going to score and make it 14-7 when Martinez slightly sailed a pass over Wandale's hand, which deflected it into an Ohio State player that was on the ground. Would 14-7 be a lot different than a backbreaking turnover? Absolutely. Psychologically deflating for a still fragile team playing against the #5 and arguably better than that team in the nation.

Remember, somewhere between 39% & 45% of Americans still support this buffoon. He has a significant chance of getting reelected (presuming he's not in jail).

Till we can't be beat

Spoiler Alert: Someone always loses when GameDay is there

It's really bizarre for fans to hang onto emotions of him being fired when: 1. He was fired two coaches ago. 2. His firing ultimately played into us making the best hire in the post-Solich era.

They are recruiting Florida and Georgia because those are kids who play football as a means to end. No one is talking about our 5* because we don’t have any and of our 4*s, in spite of his struggles AM, and Wan’Dale are legit and we need more of them. You’re right, development is crucial but you’re telling us that 1.5 years into his tenure that development and culture is going to already be established after 7 years of Pelini promising playing time and not having true competition? 3 years of no accountability under Riley? 17 of 22 starters with 1 year or less D1 experience heading into the season and no seniors on offense. Hate Frost all you wish, Campbell is a great coach and many wanted him if it wasn’t Frost, but people need to chill the heck out because this isn’t a quick 1-3 season pad your resume for 3-4 mediocre seasons before moving on to a bigger job or getting fired, instead he’s establishing a program for beyond his tenure.

Look at these things that confirm what I'm saying!!! Ignore all those other things that point the other direction!!!

Whatever you do, don't blow Herbstreit's head up to about 10 times its normal size, dress it up in a baby bonnet and throw a giant pacifier over his mouth. Can confirm that sign will get taken, especially if you manage to get it behind his head during the 8 am Sportscenter.