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  1. Well on the one hand, regular people have to deal with people high on drugs and potentially violent all the time, and often don't call the police because it's a child, a spouse, or a friend. Unarmed social workers walk into high-risk situations every day, assess and de-escalate the situation, and call police only in the most urgent cases. In a majority of cases, the police do the right thing. But too many times, they don't. In the police shootings we're discussing, you have to ask yourself if the officer in question -- often backed by fellow officers -- is facing a life threatening situation w
  2. Context and timing does have a lot to do with it.
  3. I'm literally saying that old white guys thinking back on their youth, who then envision themselves doing the same thing with black skin, are inclined to say "oh sh!t....we could have gotten shot for that."
  4. I've posted this in here before. It came up when I was hanging with some old Nebraska buddies, remembering the most legendary hijinks of our youth. Almost all of these guys are Trump supporters.. They've done pretty well in their lives. We may not agree on much, but they did have to agree that had we been black in our hell-raising days, we would have been dead or in jail years ago. That's they part some people just don't get.
  5. First, as you say, resisting arrest puts you at greater risk, but it shouldn't be a death warrant. Second, as evidence has made painfully clear, many of these incidents involve people doing nothing wrong, and the confrontation is escalated by police with faulty information, mistakenly identifying a weapon, and sometimes just being pricks. Derrick Chauvin had a history of being a prick. Thirdly, both scenarios apply more often to Black people. I mean, you literally blamed the victim in the previous post. Even with your rationale, it still f
  6. I didn't mean to misrepresent what you posted, but your point seemed to be that these unfortunate incidents wouldn't happen if people didn't resist arrest and treated police more respectfully. While that may be true, the proposition is really loaded, especially given yesterday's context, and it's an argument frequently aimed at Black people, ignoring some pretty major differences in police interactions.
  7. Do police regularly get off of charges that would land anyone else in jail? Do police habitually protect their own using resources not available to others? Do police lie on the stand, and more to the point, lacking any video proof, does a policeman win virtually every "he said/she said" account entered as evidence? Has even compelling video evidence been ignored until yesterday? Are juries reluctant to convict police, mindful that the job is stressful and a conviction might discourage future recruitment? Is there any doubt that while you consider the Chauvin verdict correct, the C
  8. This was your first post on the subject. Nothing about justice. Everything about the protestors. Going so far as to say it was all for nothing. Pretending they should have just waited quietly for a legal system that habitually screws up these verdicts. This is the ugliest take you could have on today's events. Stick around and take the heat you've already earned on this thread, Pooh. Members 3,679 3,729 posts Posted 2 hours ago Just
  9. Well......yeah. The point is that some people want to use the worst possible example to discredit a much larger population and their justifiable goals. In case you didn't notice, the issue isn't rioting. Also to your point, the British thought the Americans were lower class thugs. True story. Another true story: Sam Adams and associate patriots were clever provocateurs. They encouraged and sometimes orchestrated the vandalizing and harassment of stores owned by Americans who sided with the British. As these escalated, it was also understood and encouraged
  10. I'm not sure either, but if you study the Civil Rights movement, you'll find it didn't succeed by waiting patiently, trusting the system, and making people less uncomfortable with their grievances. If you want to go pure patriot, read how America earned its independence from Britain. Rioting, vandalism, and strategic massacres are celebrated as the cornerstone of our freedom.
  11. The question is whether a white frat boy jacked on coke and trying to crawl out of a police cruiser would ever have a knee on his neck for nine minutes until he died. In my experience, no. I mean, Kyle Rittenhouse couldn't even get the attention of police waving a M&P 15 rifle on the street where he just killed two people. A unarmed 13 year old Black kid gets shot for reaching into his pocket. Asking Black people to be extra super respectful because they're Black is the problem, not the solution.
  12. Both the protests and the riots came after years of similar cases where folks waited patiently (as Archy prefers) only to have the officers face zero jail time and often the barest of consequences. Time after time after time after time after time after time. The George Floyd video felt like the last straw. Even when caught in a snuff film, who wanted to bet Chauvin wouldn't skate? The protests were justified. Maybe some of the rioting, too. I mean, holy f#&%, what's wrong with this country? The looting -- as mentioned -- is the work of opportunists who work Super
  13. They coincide with Super Bowl celebrations, too.
  14. You may not be able to prove intent to kill, but the apparent disregard for whether Floyd lived or died, and the amount of time spent lifeless under the knee strikes me as another degree beyond manslaughter. Another way of looking at it: people guilty of manslaughter don't often have time to weigh the unfolding consequences and correct their reckless/dangerous actions, hence the lesser charge. Chauvin had 9 and a half minutes, with his own safety never in question.
  15. These are the things and events that happen when sacred human rights are so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace, BLM. Remember this day forever.
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