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CB, pre 1980s was full of Nixonian price and wage controls, high inflation and other Jimmy Carter issues. The 1970s was a terrible time economically - we got off the gold standard, rising gas prices, etc. Recessions were a normal way of life. Some of that was fuel by the oil crisis (no pun intended) - gas going way up to $1/gal. A lot of people remember the 1950s as being 'Happy Days' - I wouldn't know but it was at the height of post war manufacturing and housing booms. We were the world's main manufacturer back then. That goes back to making manufacturing a back bone of our economy. I'm almost convinced that our unhappy days came about due to the increased globalization of our large companies and the resultant outsourcing of our manufacturing base. I would bet that if we had a strong manufacturing base it wouldn't really matter who was president - the economy would hum along inspite of the president. It seems like a foregone conclusion that we just have to accept a reduced manufacturing sector. I would like to see all presidential candidates address this issue more clearly, including our campaigner in chief with some solid comprensive plans (tax policies included) on restoring manufacturing. The best way to close the income gap is to create good jobs that don't require Masters Degrees that pay well - typically in the past - these were manufacturing jobs. I know Newt has some good ideas on this - I'd like to see more discussions from the other guys and gal.

 

The Reagan years were not an economic boom, that didn't happen until the fall of the Soviets when we were able to exploit foreign labor and markets while still keeping most Americans gainfully enmployed.

 

Now that foreigners can do these middle class jobs,capitalism has sent them abroad at a pace where we could not recreate new jobs.

Sub - you've read too much anti-Reagan revisionist papers. Not a boom - not sure where you were sitting in the later 1970s and the 1980s but the Reagan economy produced the longest and largest sustained job growth in many decades. The fall of Soviet Russia didn't occur until well into Bush #1's term - as a result of Reagan's policies that drove a wedge into the Soviet economy in several ways. (See Reagan's Secret War - one book detailing how this occured)

Laffer: Reaganomics Created 21 Million Jobs

Friday, 11 Feb 2011 08:40 AM

By Greg Brown

Art Laffer, the economist

e and adviser to President Ronald Reagan, says the ultimate lesson of Reaganomics was that the right policies can create jobs — exactly what the economy needs now. Amid stagflation, high unemployment, and an oil s shock, Reagan took the highly criticized position that tax cuts were the answer. He slashed the top income tax rate to 50 percent from 70 percent and the lowest rate to 11 percent from 14 percent.

Simultaneously, Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker embarked on a tight-money policy designed to rein in inflation, moving the inflation rate from a staggering 13.5 percent in 1981 down to 3.2 percent just two years later.

“What the Reagan Revolution did was to move America toward lower, flatter tax rates, sound money, freer trade, and less regulation,” Laffer writes in The Wall Street Journal. “The key to Reaganomics was to change people's behavior with respect to working, investing, and producing.”

Eventually, the higher tax rate on non-wage income (like investments) fell to 28 percent from 70 percent. Corporate tax rates fell, too.

“Changing tax rates changed behavior, and changed behavior affected tax revenues. Reagan understood that lowering tax rates led to static revenue losses,” Laffer writes. “But he also understood that lowering tax rates also increased taxable income, whether by increasing output or by causing less use of tax shelters and less tax cheating.”

The result: 21 million jobs created between December 1982 and June 1990, Laffer writes.

“The true lesson to be learned from the Reagan presidency is that good economics isn't Republican or Democrat, right-wing or left-wing, liberal or conservative. It's simply good economics,” Laffer writes.

In a speech to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, President Barack Obama said he wants to cut the top corporate tax rate to 28 percent from 35 percent but also close “loopholes” enjoyed by many industries to keep the cuts “revenue neutral.”

"You know how it goes: because of various loopholes and carve-outs that have built up over the years, some industries pay an average rate that is four or five times higher than others. Companies are taxed heavily for making investments with equity; yet the tax code actually pays companies to invest using leverage," Obama told a chamber audience.

"As a result, too many businesses end up making decisions based on what their tax director says instead of what their engineer designs or what their factory produces. This puts our entire economy at a disadvantage. That's why I want to lower the corporate rate and eliminate these loopholes to pay for it, so that it doesn't add a dime to our deficit. And I am asking for your help in this fight," he said.

http://www.moneynews...02/11/id/385725



What is the solution to OWS complaints? 1st what are the solutions offered by OWS (honest ? - I'd like to know)? Just taxing the rich more and redistributing that captured wealth only places a band aid on symptoms IMHO. It doesn't solve the problem. It may actually make the problem worse as the rich seek shelter from greater taxation overseas - moving assets and jobs overseas to less hostile environments. I do believe there needs to be a 'reset' in our economy. But not a reset by having bigger govt and enriching those who are favored by the party in control. I think we have to re-address the affect globalization has had on our economy and create incentivies that would allow business to bring capital back to the USA and re-invest here and create jobs here. We also have to change the focus of the average consumer - from the Walmart model - cheapest is best, to a 'guality, made in USA' is best. As consumers we craved the cheapest and we got goods manufactured in China and elsewhere by workers that held jobs once done by American workers. In 1946, 96% of what was consumed in the USA was made in the USA. That is why we had Happy Days economically in the 1950s and beyond. Nixon got us off of the gold standard but committed that we would make this up to other countries who were holding our currency reserves by buying their goods. Thus the move from us being the greatest exporter to the greatest importer - all at the cost to the American worker .

By the nature of statistics there will always be one percenters.

 

The question is... how much of the nations wealth will/should they control?

 

And what percentage of the population is suffering due to losses of home and other basic services, and will the rest of the 99% care about their plight?

 

 

How can we, in a Capitalist society, have any say in how much wealth our neighbors own? Do I get to decide how wealthy you can be?

 

Well we have checks/balances. We don't alloy monopolies...or anything close to it like when we broke up the phone industry. This is what needs to be done to the banks. We can have taxes, income, estate, that keep the gap from getting too out of control. Don't get me wrong, having rich people is ok. We just the gap should be like it was back before the 80s.....and there were rich people back then.

 

So you advocate scrapping Capitalism? To become what?

 

 

Of course not....after all I'm a small business owner. As Sub said...there is a middle ground between 100% pure capitalism(we've never had it) and pure socialism. We had capitalism during the years I'm a fan of...the pre-80s.

CB, pre 1980s was full of Nixonian price and wage controls, high inflation and other Jimmy Carter issues. The 1970s was a terrible time economically - we got off the gold standard, rising gas prices, etc. Recessions were a normal way of life. Some of that was fuel by the oil crisis (no pun intended) - gas going way up to $1/gal. A lot of people remember the 1950s as being 'Happy Days' - I wouldn't know but it was at the height of post war manufacturing and housing booms. We were the world's main manufacturer back then. That goes back to making manufacturing a back bone of our economy. I'm almost convinced that our unhappy days came about due to the increased globalization of our large companies and the resultant outsourcing of our manufacturing base. I would bet that if we had a strong manufacturing base it wouldn't really matter who was president - the economy would hum along inspite of the president. It seems like a foregone conclusion that we just have to accept a reduced manufacturing sector. I would like to see all presidential candidates address this issue more clearly, including our campaigner in chief with some solid comprensive plans (tax policies included) on restoring manufacturing. The best way to close the income gap is to create good jobs that don't require Masters Degrees that pay well - typically in the past - these were manufacturing jobs. I know Newt has some good ideas on this - I'd like to see more discussions from the other guys and gal.

By the nature of statistics there will always be one percenters.

 

The question is... how much of the nations wealth will/should they control?

 

And what percentage of the population is suffering due to losses of home and other basic services, and will the rest of the 99% care about their plight?

 

 

How can we, in a Capitalist society, have any say in how much wealth our neighbors own? Do I get to decide how wealthy you can be?

 

Well we have checks/balances. We don't alloy monopolies...or anything close to it like when we broke up the phone industry. This is what needs to be done to the banks. We can have taxes, income, estate, that keep the gap from getting too out of control. Don't get me wrong, having rich people is ok. We just the gap should be like it was back before the 80s.....and there were rich people back then.

CB, I won't do the "Brand thing"(inside joke) and point out your typo. Anyway, there is a place and time to look at monopolies. I'm not sure that any one financial institution could qualify - when you think of Standard Oil in the Teddy Roosevelt era, Ma Bell in the 1980s - these were clear monopolies. Now is there a clear monopoly like connection between Federal politicians and major banks - there may be. This is due to the break down in the proper relationship between the regulator and the regulated. Former congressmen should be prohibited from being able to lobby congress - current congressmen should be prohibited from receiving donations (real or proxy) from businesses that are regulated by committees they sit on. Of course the biggest monopoly is the federal govt itself. I'd like to see some of its power broken up and given to the 50 states (Education for example - Fed govt mandates to the states but does not provide funding in some cases). But that is a discussion for another thread.

Talk about extreme - we have leftist extremists running that party now.

 

Serious question... please name the "leftist extremists" who are running that party.

 

Note: Even one will do!

 

lol. Like who? With examples of their extremism please.

 

It seems that I'm not the only one questioning this!

You humor me. I guess you haven't heard of Reed, Pelosi, Obama, Sanders,(your home state guy Sub), Frank, etc, They are at least as far left as any repub is right. Yes, I know, you don't consider Obama that liberal because he's in bed wt the corp and bank CEOs like Bush.

Tony Snowjob was the most blatant liar.

 

Dana Perino was flat out incompetent.

 

Jay Carney is just another clown in a long line of clowns.

Sub, I think Tony Snow was well respected by all sides - well before his untimely death. But you are right about the long line of clowns. These guys often have to defend the undefensible. Like being 'forced' to agree wt your wife in front of the kids when you know the kids might be right in this case.

The most disappointing is also one of the proudest games as a Husker fan when we went for two against Miami. So close for one of the greatest teams ever and so proud we did not back door into a championship. T.O. Made the right call and the Huskers Reputation exploded for doing the right thing.

That was mine as well. Well stated. Tom didn't do the N. Dame thing and settle for a tie. If we had half a defense that year, the 83 team may have been ranked over the 95 team as the greatest ever. The loss to FSU in the same endzone 10 years later added salt into the wound - put the next year win against Miami healed it all.

I wanted this as the Trophy

 

Loser claims Council Bluffs, Carter Lake & Sioux City for the year.

I can live wt that idea. Corn Bowl - couldn't they come up wt something more original and not so sterotypical?

I just notified the mods at HuskerMax that I would not be returning to their site unless it is cleaned up of the trash.

 

They were having a field day bashing Scott Olson, then they started celebrating the death of Steve Jobs.

 

Some things just aren't funny, I don't want anything to do with those people anymore.

You got that right. Sounds like scum to me.

Guys - Can we just END this GOD DAMNED HuskerPedia GARBAGE?

 

Really, it's done - the damn site (HP) is down and doesn't exist. I know there are A LOT of personal vendetta's (heck my MI/IA thread got hijacked by 2 punks) - but for crying out loud - enough is enough.

 

MOVE ON

 

Mods - please delete this sorry thread!

Austin no need to get excited. We are all glad we found a new home - and glad you are a part of it.

This might be hurtful . . . but I don't care if you take me seriously. I'm a registered independent who might end up being pushed into the Democratic party by the Bagger craziness that has infected the GOP. Not ready to take that step yet but I do wish that I could vote in a primary. No doubt which party I would pick if I were forced to make that decision today. Not sure how that is disingenuous but I suppose people will see what they want to see.

 

Yeah, sure, blame the Tea Party for your possible shift in philosophy. If you are that weak in your convictions, it speaks of your character.

 

Not the Tea Party per se, but the whole direction of the party. My convictions didn't change; the GOP changed. A party that rejects anyone who approaches moderation has no place for me. The GOP is no longer the party of Lincoln . . . hell . . . for that matter they are no longer the party of Reagan. They are the party of Palin/Perry/Cain/Limbaugh. Is there any wonder why the GOP will be tailing off with the deaths of the boomers?

 

Enjoy your GOP extremism and personal attacks.

What about the Democratic party leaving the Democratic party of Sam Nunn, Scoop Jackson, JFK, Truman and even HHH or even Bill Clinton ? Talk about extreme - we have leftist extremists running that party now.

From today’s briefing:

The White House adds in the official transcript:

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1111/oh_lord_f5028e26-955c-48c3-9038-bab764ba97b4.html

the video is on the link

I like the level of football in the B12 but for everything else it's the B1G. Also, it just feels weird not knowing much about 1/2 these teams in the B1G. For instance, I never knew that WI had CU-like scum fans..... For all the talk about how Alvarez molded their program after NU's from copying our uni's right down to the style of football...... it's surprising.

 

Wisconsin ripping NU is kind of a poor point in my book. Barry never coached there, he was a linebacker. It pains me to say it but if any place influenced him it was Iowa and Hayden Fry where he spent the most time as a coach before UW.

 

 

"A lot of my philosophy was based upon the foundation I had starting at Nebraska," Alvarez said.

 

http://espn.go.com/c...ska-cornhuskers

Funny..... only a badger fan would not know that.

I was trying to locate "The Greatest Video Ever" - Barry A brags about his days at NU.

You mean besides the referees, Beebe, and TexASS ??

 

In all seriousness, I will really miss playing OU.and if I had my way I would like to go back to the Big 8 days and play OU the day after Thanksgiving. It is really hard if you are over say 40 years of age to let go of the rival matchups that were built with even teams like CU, Mizzou, Okie State and KState as well. Then TexASS came along and really messed things up. Since the Big 8 is not coming back then I think the B1G is a natural fit for NU. I think most Husker fans agree. Plus I really love the BTN.

Agree 100%. There seems to be more top to bottom balance in the Big Ten. I like the long term traditions, rival games, etc. It will take us a while to get use to it, but perhaps some team will become our next OU. If it is someone other than Iowa, then I hope we could move the game to the day after Thanksgiving. It will be interesting to see what the chemistry of the PSU rivalry will be. I think the rival game would have some more significance if our true rival was in our division - competing for the div championship the day after Thanksgiving.

I'm very worried about @OSU next year.

 

If Miller continues improving at the rate he is......it's going to be tough.

 

2 things have to ABSOLUTELY happen the minute 2011 closes:

 

1) Get TM into a QB academy of some sort to fix his passing/QB skills. Just imagine if he did. Our passing game would be lethal with the weapons we have. If TM does not improve, then what a huge waste of talent it would be for Bell, Enunwa and Turner.

 

2) Get a couple of faster LB's and one's who can tackle in space - bec. that's what we'll need to slow down mobile QB's. Running the peso will not work with teams not named MSU, PU and NW.

Agree wt both points. Wt L David gone, we'll be really hurting at LB - unless Compton continues to improve - even wt that, replacing David may be like replacing Suh - you can't.

Per the original post, 2013 could be a NC year if TM improves as you note. We will have amazing (and do now) speed around him - but wt 2 more years of experience. At this point, I hope our D can keep pace wt our O. Never thought I'd say that under BO.

Out of Staters:

Where do you currently live? Tulsa, Ok - Grew up in Parker, SD. Went to college at SDSU then got married and moved to Tulsa 33 yrs ago

Where have you lived the longest? Tulsa

Where has been your favorite place to live/visit? Visit: Loved the energy of NYC - but couldn't live in that concrete jungle. I think Yosetime is my favorite spot. The 1st time you see the valley it takes your breath away.

Where is your ideal place to live? Colorado - or any other mtn place

N-Staters:

Have you ever lived outside of Nebraska?

Where have you lived the longest?

Where has been your favorite non-Nebraska place to visit/live?

Where is your ideal place to live?

Work:

What is your current occupation? Corp Credit mgr. also teach part time at a local univ.

What has been your best job ever? GM for a GE company

Worst job? Hauling bales in 100 degree S.D weather while in high school. also anytime I have to paint. In HS, Dad had us paint all of the farm buildings red one summer, hated painting ever since.

Dream job? Teaching at a univ full time

Hobbies:

What do you enjoy doing in your free time? Photography, Guitar, hiking, exercise club (need lots more of that)

Strangest/most interesting hobby, skill or personal anecdote? farting before bed - my wife just loves it. Seriously, I enjoy helping others find their life mission. Primary I do this through one of the classes I teach. I beleive we all have a God given mission in life and we are truly 'energized' when we live out that mission. The rest of the time we are just taking up space and wasting time.

Worry about NW now. We need to build on our play from the last 2.5 games. If we can solidfy everything against NW, then I think we have a very good chance to win out - including the CCG.

No games are gimmes - at this point.

I've been hearing this phrase a lot, recently. Can someone tell me what it means to be a 'true Christian'? Also, how do you judge if someone is a 'true Christian' without knowing them very intimately?

 

Here are two very different definitions of what one might use to describe what a Christian should believe. I'm going to leave out behavior, because that is subjective and subject to judgement by people who still have a "plank in their eye".

 

1) From their Faith, a Christian believes in the creed (which is a version of the Nicene Creed) as professed by their denonination/congregation.

 

2) They have read the three Synoptic Gospels, and strive to live their lives per the teachings of Jesus.

 

Those two definitions are very different, but not mutually exclusive.

 

I follow one of those two and not the other... anyone care to guess which one?

Hey Sub, why do you leave out the Gospel of John?

A Christian is a follower of Christ and his teachings (Including the Gospel of John.)

We aren't perfect but we are forgiven and are called to live out that forgiveness by serving others in a humble manner.

There is nothing wrong wt a 'creed' - which is just a statement of faith or belief. Everyone has a creed (believer or non-believer) in the same way that everyone has a world view that helps them to make sense of the world and helps them to navigate it. A creed is just a 'codification' of your belief system. I think were some don't like creeds is because many of us may profess a creed but we don't live it - it doesn't affect our life.- and we make the false assumption that professing this creed in and of itself makes us a Christian.

I have no ill will towards you CT, I just don't agree with the way you handled it. I answered a question that was asked by a few here in regards to where I was, thats all. I have no desire to rehash that situation here. I am not going to discuss the matter any further. I hope you do the same.

 

 

 

 

Fair enough, just wanted to make sure you understood my reasons. GBR!

Good to see you CB. And good seeing you and mullet clearing the air.

Welcome to HuskerNation.com's custom thread!! An N-trospective into the greatest fans in all of sports..

 

The purpose of this is to share and learn about your fellow members of Husker Nation. We know it sounds kinda cheesy - but it will be pretty cool to get an up close look at the heartbeat of Husker Nation - the fans.

 

Feel free to copy and paste the questions below in your reply - & only answer as many as you would like. We are still looking for ideas for other questions to include, so feel free to include any other info you would like.

 

1) How long have you been a member of Husker Nation?

Since 1970 - I was in 8th grade and my first real memory was the 1st Nat'l Champ game against LSU.

 

2) What/who led you to The Nation?

Living in S.D. there were no other major college teams to pull for nearby. I got tired of watching N. Dame on Sunday morning reply - my Dad's team because it is a Catholic school.

I became the fanatical Husker fan.

 

3) Where are you from originally?

Parker, S.D - 30 miles SW of Sioux Falls

 

4) Where do you live now?

As the names says - Tulsa

 

5) Favorite Husker memory?

Being in the crowd at Memorial Stadium. Cannot beat that.

Beating Miami 1994 NCG and the beat down of Florida and the national press one year later.

 

6) Worst Husker memory?

Loosing to Miami 1983 and FSU 1993- (almost kicked the TV on that one)

 

7) Number of home games attended?

One - hope to get to attend more.

 

8) Number of away games attended?

2 - Vs OU during Stoops miracle NC run in 2000

and last year (2010) vs OSU - best TM passing game yet.

 

9) Favorite Husker memorabilia/apparel?

All of my hats and my wind breaker - but also all of my stuff I have in my office - ticks off the OU fans which

I love to do. Clocks(2) posters, coffee cups, books, light switch, etc

 

10) Favorite place to watch a Husker game? (section in Memorial, bar, friends house etc.)

Oklahoma Cornhusker Club in Tulsa - 250+ fans show up for a big game and opening games.

 

11) Favorite all time player?

Tommy Frazier

 

12) WCO or Option?

Option - hands down. Our identity

 

13) Stevie Pederson or Billy Byrne?

Billy

 

14) Lil Red or Herbie Husker?

Herbie

 

15) Favorite Husker play?

Fraziers romp against Florida

The Flee kicker = Frost, to foot to Davidson

 

16) Favorite game-day beverage?

Ice tea

 

17) How did you find HuskerBoard? (referral source)

Huskerpedia court issue and friend there told me about this site - very glad they did

 

And any pictures you would like to share (upload via the browse button below).

 

Thanks for sharing your Husker Heritage!!

 

GBR!!

Checking in as well from Huskerpedia. Glad to find this site as refered by others. No longer a moderator but that is fine wt me. The pay wasn't that good!!