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    If you're a WR, you've got to love the idea of being coached by Keith Williams.

     

    Our receivers played so stinkin' well Saturday and one could argue we were missing our best one. I hope to see it all season. You've gotta believe it has something to do with KW. We've had so many stinkin' drops over the past few years it seems. I hope KW can keep bringing out the best in our WR's.

     

     

     

    I think Saturday against So. Alabama they played well again. I do remember one drop over the middle with Reily, but other than that the receivers are fighting for extra yards.

  2. http://www.ketv.com/sports/huskers-extended-coverage/huskers-riley-confirms-5-huskers-will-be-suspended-for-season-opener/34713224

     

    For the first time I think I just saw some heat and real football coach passion in our head man's eyes. He was serious as a heart attack when it comes to the subject of "making the right choices!!" If this is any glimpse into Mike Riley, the football coach, I think we will continue to see our academics high and off the field issues low.

     

    Is this what the players see behind the scenes?

     

    Check out the news clip.

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    The turnover rate has much more to do with national standards and the taking away of creativity, telling teachers what they can and can't be.

     

    It's funny because in college all we heard was to diversify your teaching to reach all kids. Yet, the schools tell all teachers to use the same methods.

    New teachers (less than 5 years) benefit from having a dictated framework as opposed to admin saying "Here's your room, see you at the year end check out" Chicago school district was more successful in retaining teachers with a very rigid structure "At 10:07 all 5th grade teachers will be on page 47 of the book".

     

    The problem as Coach says, is with the veteran teachers who had the experience with diversifying, teachable moments, etc and still "got the job done"

     

    Very interesting....and this approach is working?

     

    This way, new teachers can concentrate of classroom management versus hours on lesson plans.

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    I have the utmost respect for teachers. (There are a half dozen or so of my extended family members who are teachers.) But I swear, teachers complain about low pay more than any other profession I can think of. And I can't for the life of me understand why. I mean, in college there must have been fifty different majors that paid more than teaching. Yet, for as long as I can remember college kids major in teaching, and then spend the next forty years complaining about the low pay. :dunno

     

    That said, public schools are incredibly wasteful with $$$. If schools didn't waste so much money on stupid stuff they'd have more money to pay teachers. /end rant

    Got any examples? I am just curious what you have in mind. And teachers who gripe about the pay - they knew going in what the pay was. I always thought that instead of a 9 month (actually its closer to 10 now) contract, we should get an 11 month contract (with a pay raise) and do all the staff development crap in that one month and **get ready for this** let us teach the rest of the time.

     

    To chime in with NUinID - my first contract in 1980 was $9875.

     

    OK...you hit on something I have a question about.

     

    In our school system, every Wednesday is a half day for the kids because the teachers have teacher inservice/meetings. Why can't they do that in the summer? Now that my kids are in HS and have their own cars, it's not that big of a deal. But, before that, it was a pain in the ass trying to figure out who is going to get them, take care of them, where they are going ...etc. Meanwhile, sports practices were at the same time so these kids that live out of town have to figure out what they are going to do for 3 hours.

     

    I just have never figured out what they need to do every week for 3 hours that they couldn't learn or do for a month in the summer.

     

     

    States mandate so many hours of in service every year. If you want to have all the in service hours take place in the summer time than you would need to extend their contracts and pay them more. Teachers are contracted to work a certain number of days each year and are paid for that time. Qmany teachers are not paid for working in the summer the money they earn is just parceled out over 12 even payments.

     

    I think part of the reason that teachers complain about the pay is that they have been conditioned to do it. During the 70's and 80's the media really latched onto low teacher pay and that being how to attract quality teachers is to start paying them more. So it is almost ingrained in teachers to complain about it. Teacher salaries are public record, so everyone can find out what a teacher makes. I remember growing up that our local newspaper would actually publish every teachers salary in the newspaper. Teacher pay in Nebraska is actually not too bad anymore when you consider the benefits that go with it.

     

    Someone said that 50% of teachers leave the profession within 5 years. That is probably true, but I don't think pay is the big issue. I think the big issue in losing teachers is that they find they just don't like it.

     

    You are correct!!

     

    Half Of Teachers Leave The Job After Five Years. Here's What To Do About It

     

    The high turnover rates are sometimes due to layoffs, “but the primary reason they leave is because they’re dissatisfied,” said Richard Ingersoll, an education professor at the University of Pennsylvania whose research on teacher retention was published in the report. Teachers say they leave because of inadequate administrative support and isolated working conditions, among other things. These losses disproportionately affect high-poverty, urban and rural schools, where teaching staffs often lack experience.

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    I have the utmost respect for teachers. (There are a half dozen or so of my extended family members who are teachers.) But I swear, teachers complain about low pay more than any other profession I can think of. And I can't for the life of me understand why. I mean, in college there must have been fifty different majors that paid more than teaching. Yet, for as long as I can remember college kids major in teaching, and then spend the next forty years complaining about the low pay. :dunno

     

    That said, public schools are incredibly wasteful with $$$. If schools didn't waste so much money on stupid stuff they'd have more money to pay teachers. /end rant

    Got any examples? I am just curious what you have in mind. And teachers who gripe about the pay - they knew going in what the pay was. I always thought that instead of a 9 month (actually its closer to 10 now) contract, we should get an 11 month contract (with a pay raise) and do all the staff development crap in that one month and **get ready for this** let us teach the rest of the time.

     

    To chime in with NUinID - my first contract in 1980 was $9875.

     

    OK...you hit on something I have a question about.

     

    In our school system, every Wednesday is a half day for the kids because the teachers have teacher inservice/meetings. Why can't they do that in the summer? Now that my kids are in HS and have their own cars, it's not that big of a deal. But, before that, it was a pain in the ass trying to figure out who is going to get them, take care of them, where they are going ...etc. Meanwhile, sports practices were at the same time so these kids that live out of town have to figure out what they are going to do for 3 hours.

     

    I just have never figured out what they need to do every week for 3 hours that they couldn't learn or do for a month in the summer.

     

     

    Collaboration takes place among same grade level teachers, trainings and lesson plans.

     

    If you want to move to an 11 month contract for teachers your property taxes will go up to pay for it I suspect.

  6. To the original post, it's a great subject and I'm going to respond with my true feelings on the subject and please don't take them as cold hearted at all because I truly appreciate everyone who does what your wife does. The wife of the coworker right next to me is a special ed teacher and I hear what they do and go through.

     

    Let me go back to when I moved to the current community I live in. I had to go through a time when I had to convince my family to move here. I had three kids (4th, 2nd and kindergarten). So, the school system was a major part of what we looked at. We took a tour of the entire school system. We were obviously satisfied with what we saw or we wouldn't be here. BUT, both of us commented after the tour that we were amazed at the amount of money spent on special ed students. Let me clarify, this school system knew we didn't have special ed children but they spent so much time taking us through all the facilities and talking about the services provided to these children. I want to make it clear that I am not against this.

     

    However, I think sometimes it gets out of balance.

     

    I look at education as that there are three main groups of kids (in an effort to over simplify it). There are special ed kids, average kids, advanced kids. When we got here, it was obvious to me that way more facilities, expense...etc was being paid to the special ed students than the average student in either of the other categories.

     

    Now, this is the part where I don't want to sound cold hearted. But, does that make sense? Here you have a group of kids that are going to be in life what they are. I firmly believe they need to be taken care of and trained to help themselves take care of themselves as much as possible later in life. That is totally different than the average student.

     

    Now, you have the rest of the student population that you have a responsibility to educate to be as successful as you can make them. If you have advanced students, these students will be competing with students from all across the country or world for jobs and careers. That starts with getting the best education possible in HS so that they can get into the best colleges and move on with their lives to hopefully (as a collective macro group) make this country better in technology, math, science, medicine, business, leadership...etc.

     

    Now, to say a special ed teacher should just flat out be paid more than these other teachers just leaves me scratching my head. Now, I can see one being paid more if they have the expertise and experience and time in the job to warrant that. But, to say across the board, these teachers should be paid more leaves me baffled. Meanwhile, we are trying to replace a VERY good science teacher that a huge number of kids benefited from and can't find an appropriate replacement.

     

    it's not the school that is placing the huge emphasis on a particular group of students, but the federal government....all political parties. They expect all students to be at a certain point, well the low performing kids need the most.

     

    BTW, I thought your reply was well balanced and very mature in the fact that even though I have a special needs child I didn't feel the least bit offended. I think it's completly normal and understandable to bring this up.

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    Supply & demand is more or less where it starts... Out here in Colorado, it's common for Special Ed teachers to make more than the average educator. Burnout rate is much higher, job demands are much higher, training/education/credentials are much higher, larger number of students in the program, etc... Compensation does vary wildly by school district out here though. Your wife can document the time she spends on these things and ask for an adjustment but it may be moot; hard to say without knowing the School District or at least some detail on their pay structure.

     

    How serious is your wife about getting a pay increase?

    Denver Public Schools has something called ProComp. In which tough to hire positions (SpEd) and tough to hire schools (typically low income) will see an additional 3% usually in their salaries.

     

     

    Yep, that's a good program. Even so, DPS pays ~10% lower for Special Ed educators than most other Front Range school districts. Supposedly Jeffco used to have a similar pay differential as DPS but the previous Executive Director nixed that on her way to creating the smoldering dumpster fire she left behind. Once they get a permanent E.D., it sounds like reworking compensation is high on the priority list... One of the Springs Districts moved their Special Ed staff into "exempt admin" group to bypass union pay structure back in the late 90s. It's worked well although I don't see a school district getting away doing that today.

     

    OPS just signed to give all teachers a 7% raise over the next three years. Except all the suburban school districts are going to just pull ahead again. Where would you teach? Toucher situations and kids for less pay or easier classrooms and kids and more pay?

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  8. I have the utmost respect for teachers. (There are a half dozen or so of my extended family members who are teachers.) But I swear, teachers complain about low pay more than any other profession I can think of. And I can't for the life of me understand why. I mean, in college there must have been fifty different majors that paid more than teaching. Yet, for as long as I can remember college kids major in teaching, and then spend the next forty years complaining about the low pay. :dunno

     

    That said, public schools are incredibly wasteful with $$$. If schools didn't waste so much money on stupid stuff they'd have more money to pay teachers. /end rant

     

    I think when you're in college you're still quite naive and have this romantic idea your going to change the world and everything will work out just fine. But then the bills start rolling in and it's not so much fun anymore.

     

    The pay is also why 50% of all teachers leave the profession within their first five years in education. So indeed, many people are quite fed up with it, don't want to complain about not making money and leave the profession.

  9. So, my wife is a special education teacher and we were talking tonight while packing up our apartment (getting ready to move tomorrow), and she mentioned that South Dakota pays their Sp Ed teachers more than their regular ed teachers.

     

    Anyone have any thoughts on this in Nebraska? Or how to get that started? My wife goes way above and beyond the school day hours with planning IEP meetings, leading those meetings after or before school. It gets into our weekends because she has parents texting or calling her asking questions. It seriously never quits.

     

    I know I'm a little bias because more money is always nice but for the work they do and the stress they deal with I think they SHOULD be paid more than a regular teacher. Considering I am going to be a regular teacher after this school year I get that planning and stuff always gets outside school hours but special education teachers are bogged down so much more than anyone else in the school.

     

    Curious on anyone's thoughts, if there are any.

     

    OPS and maybe LPS will be the only districts that I would ever forsee going to a bonus system. OPS routinuely has positions going unfilled to fill SpEd classrooms. OPS has thrown around the idea for many years now, but a friend mentioned the teachers union doesn't seem to like the idea. They want all teachers aid the same.

  10. Supply & demand is more or less where it starts... Out here in Colorado, it's common for Special Ed teachers to make more than the average educator. Burnout rate is much higher, job demands are much higher, training/education/credentials are much higher, larger number of students in the program, etc... Compensation does vary wildly by school district out here though. Your wife can document the time she spends on these things and ask for an adjustment but it may be moot; hard to say without knowing the School District or at least some detail on their pay structure.

     

    How serious is your wife about getting a pay increase?

    Denver Public Schools has something called ProComp. In which tough to hire positions (SpEd) and tough to hire schools (typically low income) will see an additional 3% usually in their salaries.

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