cm husker

 

 

 

 

The question isn't really whether he should have beaten out Armstrong. The question is whether he should have beaten out Fyfe.

It's possible Fyfe beat him out, but Fyfe being listed as #2 doesn't necessarily mean that's the case when you're trying not to burn a redshirt.

 

It's really not a good move to preserve a redshirt on a kid who is your #2 best player at a position. In fact, it makes almost no sense whatsoever, unless you think you can't recruit.

 

It's a real FU to your current players, actually - especially the seniors.

 

I doubt that's what Riley did, though. My suspicion is that Fyfe beat him out. Whether that means he's bad is a different question. I doubt it. He's probably like 85% of HS QB recruits - not good enough to beat out a guy who's been in the program 5 years, even if that senior is a former walkon.

EXCEPT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT THE QB POSITION IS THE 1 SPOT YOU GENERALLY DON'T ROTATE PLAYERS.

Huh?

My point is that you have your your best #2 ready to play. Redshirting is not that important. And he could have redshirt next year if that made sense.

Reality is, he's #3 because Fyfe beat him out.

That makes some people uncomfortable, so they invent things about redshirting.

And if we need linemen more than anything, why are we using 4 or 5 schollies on receivers?

Wisconsin's #6 ranking is like NU's top 25 ranking. The product of a name and a record standing in isolation more than anything.

Wisconsin is not the 6th best team in the country. They are atrocious on offense.

 

 

If Lee starts and Gebbia redshirts, I think there's a very strong possibility that Gebbia may end up passing POB on the depth chart eventually. The more I hear about POB, the more he's starting to sound like Johnny Stanton.

 

Meaning what? Stanton would have likely been a fairly productive QB for NU had there not been a system change during his freshman year.

Received a lot of hype and did well on the camp circuit, but never progressed and never played a down. He didn't exactly light it up once he transferred, either.

Stanton was on campus for like a year.

People are pretty unrealistic.

Hard to believe. But hope they can finish with a win.

LSU in at 7-4 because they beat an average ATM team in a shootout is a joke.

If Lee starts and Gebbia redshirts, I think there's a very strong possibility that Gebbia may end up passing POB on the depth chart eventually. The more I hear about POB, the more he's starting to sound like Johnny Stanton.

Meaning what? Stanton would have likely been a fairly productive QB for NU had there not been a system change during his freshman year.

CM, you're ignoring the far simpler possibility that POB isn't ready as a true freshman, and that it would hurt both his development and the team's long-term outlook to throw him to the wolves.

 

Fyfe might not be spectacular, but not only is he relatively experienced, he'd paid his dues. If they're reasonably close (and it wouldn't surprise me if Fyfe was far ahead in his familiarity and confidence) then I'd say the senior earned it. He played quite well in the Maryland game.

No, I"m not. In fact, that's exactly what I was talking about when I wrote:

"My suspicion is that Fyfe beat him out. Whether that means he's bad is a different question. I doubt it. He's probably like 85% of HS QB recruits - not good enough to beat out a guy who's been in the program 5 years, even if that senior is a former walkon."

Went pass heavy because we couldn't run, plain and simple. Couldn't run inside or outside.

Look at the play by play.

NU came out and ran two IB plays for 7 yards, then a QB draw for 2 yards and then a FB run to pick up the first.

After that, NU threw it 10 times, completing 3 of those passes for about 25 yards, which each of those 4 possessions ending in a punt.

During that same span, NU ran it 8 times for almost 20 yards. That's not a great average, but let's not pretend we tried to run a bunch with zero success but had indications of early success through the air.

I'd be curious to see how often, if ever, Langs dials up a run on 2nd and 8+ or on 3rd and 4+.

Many of the receivers in those lobs TA made were actually open. They just weren't "Tommy Armstrong Open"

Explain what that means.

Serious question, do some of you watch any other football games? Or is it only NU games?

 

The question isn't really whether he should have beaten out Armstrong. The question is whether he should have beaten out Fyfe.

 

It's possible Fyfe beat him out, but Fyfe being listed as #2 doesn't necessarily mean that's the case when you're trying not to burn a redshirt.

 

It's really not a good move to preserve a redshirt on a kid who is your #2 best player at a position. In fact, it makes almost no sense whatsoever, unless you think you can't recruit.

It's a real FU to your current players, actually - especially the seniors.

I doubt that's what Riley did, though. My suspicion is that Fyfe beat him out. Whether that means he's bad is a different question. I doubt it. He's probably like 85% of HS QB recruits - not good enough to beat out a guy who's been in the program 5 years, even if that senior is a former walkon.

The question isn't really whether he should have beaten out Armstrong. The question is whether he should have beaten out Fyfe.

We do little in the passing game to get guys like DPE the ball in space. Hard to judge their talent. Give them to someone with an innovative offense, and who knows how productive they would be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why did Iowa beat Nebraska 40-10?

 

Because offensively we had to rely on a Quarterback with a busted hamstring to chuck it around who has never been that accurate chucking it around. Defensively I have no clue what the hell happened, that was just piss poor on staff and players alike.

This is not what we HAD to do.

 

It is what we chose to do.

Who else were we going to put in?

I didn't say we had to put someone else in. We could have called different plays.

That play calling was like a$$ against Iowa........ No excuse....It was as if the staff had no game plan at all. None, nada, nyet, nine,..........

And no clue as to how to stem the tide.

Recruiting is a process that incorporates much more than who has committed right now or even eventually signs to play here. There is momentum on that front we haven't seen here in a long time. It is better. The staff is getting visits from several high-profile players.

 

It also has yet to prove that getting them here on an OV translates to them playing football for Nebraska. The jury is still out.

 

cm, I think you would do well to look at what people are calling "improvement" as more of a foundation for the future and be a little patient with it.

 

Others acting like we are killing it in recruiting based upon some relationships built would be wise to "not count your chickens before they are hatched".

 

It is okay to both see optimism in our process but still be wary if the ends will justify the means.

 

Just my 2 cents.

And why are they getting these visits? Because recruiting is about relationships and these coaches had/have solid relationships in California. What % of these highly touted visitors are not from the west?

My concern are twofold. First, visits are interesting but commits (and retention) are what matters. Second, the longer the staff is here, and the more time they spend building regional relationships (as they should), the more tenuous their relationships with California HS becomes. So I'm not convinced that visits this year mean more commits next year or the year after.

Reality is, if Riley goes 24-12 during the next three regular seasons, he probably won't be here to see if that recruiting groundwork pays off.

Never mind. Not worth it

 

 

 

Riley is realizing that NU isn't Corvallis and there are actual expectations from the coaches.

Remains to be seen if this will be effective or if this is rearranging chairs on the titanic.

Even if it's just rearranging chairs, at least we know that Riley is trying to make changes to get the team in the best position to be successful.

Fair point.

I love how recruiting rankings become gospel accurate truth that accounts for 1 of 2 factors into a team's success whenever cm husker sees an opportunity to sh#t on Mike Riley's staff.

 

And then recruiting rankings become a shoddy, unreliable factor whenever cm husker can't use them to sh#t on Mike Riley's staff.

You know my take on recruiting. It's broken into tiers. Tier 1 is 1-15 or do. Tier 2 is 15-35 or so. Tier 3 is 35 to 60 or so. The rest after that is basically a wash.

I've always said that Riley, Bo and even Callahan and Solich all recruited about the same - maybe solich better than the others based on the number and draft position of drafted players that he recruited and left in the program.

What's funny to me is when people claim we are recruiting so much better based on the rankings, but want to ignore those rankings when looking at or current roster.

Can't have it both ways.

 

 

 

With Read's vaunted "let everyone stand around while 6 guys swarm the return man" punting unit, he will have no problems finding a new job.

 

Best of luck shitbag

Pure class as always.

Personal attack! Personal attack!

Nah man, you super classy. Keep doing you.

Riley is realizing that NU isn't Corvallis and there are actual expectations from the coaches.

Remains to be seen if this will be effective or if this is rearranging chairs on the titanic.

With Read's vaunted "let everyone stand around while 6 guys swarm the return man" punting unit, he will have no problems finding a new job.

 

Best of luck shitbag

Pure class as always.

Feel bad for the guy, but probably the right call. We'll see where Riley goes from there.

 

 

 

The Iowa loss was, in the words of master troll cm husker, entirely due to poor coaching, because Iowa's ranked 50th in team talent compared to Nebraska being 25th, according to recruiting rankings.

 

 

But apparently, also, the difference between those rankings isn't that big of a gap?

 

 

And not only that, but Bo was a top 20-25 coach despite losing by 20-30-40+ points to top 10 teams, and losing to teams outside of the top 30-50, but meanwhile Riley is a culpable liability for the same things.

 

 

This has me dizzier than a merry-go-round.

Losing by 30 to them was entirely on the coaches. Losing is one thing. Being dominated like that by an average Iowa team is on the staff.

 

As for Bo, I blamed him for the bad blowouts. I just didn't think he should be fired based on the body of work.

 

And guess what, i haven't called for Riley to be fired either, even though he clearly has less upside than Bo or Frank did.

Had nothing to do with our busted ass O-Line and busted ass QB position? ALL on the coaches? Just totally false and you know this.

 

How many more blowouts did he have to put us through before he deserved to be fired? You can lose to 4 times a year and be blown out in half of them as long as you win 9? Riley did just that.

 

No calling for him to be fired would be too easy for you. You have no actual grasp of what his upside is, especially compared to two guys you admire so much.

You do realize that Iowa was busted up too, right?

Keep making excuses though.

Fewer people are believing them.

It's funny to see you spinning out of control though. In how many seasons did Bo suffer multiple 30+ point losses, especially to the likes of this Iowa team?

Could it be that maybe Bo was an above average coach? And that Riley is an above coach and that Solich is an above average coach...but that they just weren't good enough for what we want?

Completely possible. But what the hell are we looking for then?

A lot of great coaches have looked average (or even worse) for stretches.

The Iowa loss was, in the words of master troll cm husker, entirely due to poor coaching, because Iowa's ranked 50th in team talent compared to Nebraska being 25th, according to recruiting rankings.

 

 

But apparently, also, the difference between those rankings isn't that big of a gap?

 

 

And not only that, but Bo was a top 20-25 coach despite losing by 20-30-40+ points to top 10 teams, and losing to teams outside of the top 30-50, but meanwhile Riley is a culpable liability for the same things.

 

 

This has me dizzier than a merry-go-round.

I'm going to refrain from replying to your personal attack. Except to say go back to what I wrote.

Losing by 30 to them was entirely on the coaches. Losing is one thing. Being dominated like that by an average Iowa team is on the staff.

As for Bo, I blamed him for the bad blowouts. I just didn't think he should be fired based on the body of work.

And guess what, i haven't called for Riley to be fired either, even though he clearly has less upside than Bo or Frank did.

 

 

The "we need a big name hire" argument is hilarious because every single one of those prospects started as a no-name, and most were hired by big time schools before they were completely proven commodities.

 

I hate to say it but Riley was a proven career .504 commodity before coming here. Hiring friends and blowout losses kind of reaffirm that.

At a historically .400 school before he arrived

He hasn't only coached at OSU.

And iirc, he never bested the best season of the guy he succeeded.