cm husker

 

If NU tries to run the Maryland gameplan with a first year QB next year, NU will be lucky to finish above .500.

 

So, you'd like to run the "Tommy Armstrong Offense" with O'Brien, Lee, or Gebbia?

 

 

 

With those options at QB, I'd like to see an average of 20 passes a game - take the game out of the QBs hands, as much as possible. Win "ugly" if you have to. We have a very weak schedule again next year. Take advantage of that to pound opponents into the ground and work play action off that.

I know we are losing the dynamism of a mobile QB, and that's unfortunate.

If NU tries to run the Maryland gameplan with a first year QB next year, NU will be lucky to finish above .500.

 

 

If they get lucky and play CMU, they may be ok in the bowl, but if they play anyone with a good offense, it could get ugly.

 

Don't know who CMU is, but they've already played pretty well against two of their possible CCG opponents (with cfb showing us that title game rematches are pretty damn tough for the original winners) in the 4th offense in the country in Ohio State and the 9th offense in the country in Michigan. PSU has the 28th offense in the country, for comparison.

 

Technically you're right, it could get ugly, but they could also win 70-0.

 

 

 

 

 

Pretty much everyone has been earning their keep sans Bruce Read. Cav's offensive line has been fine considering it's context - the run game has had moments of struggle, but it's lacking an elite back and healthy starters, and we're still tied for 5th in the country in sacks allowed through 11 games.

 

 

But to answer your question, because fans don't know jack about coaching football, but fans are convinced that they know quite a bit about coaching football.

I think our next elite back is going to be Tre Bryant.

 

Possibly - I've lost the thread on Ozig (iirc, he's nursing an ankle?) and not sure what happen with Wilbon (off field issues?). I think any of those three has solid potential.

 

Personally, I always liked Wilbon's running style, but I'm not sure he fits what the staff is looking for from a back. I could see him transferring, though with the lack of RB recruiting this year, that would hurt.

do you actually watch any of the games? wilbon has been on the field often since ozigbo got hurt.

He's had like 14 total carries this season. And hasn't played in more than a third of the games this year.

So yeah, I watch the games. Do you?

Always curious why they pick the year they do.

Football started when Bob Devaney was hired to Nebraska.

Impressive, but without a conference title since 1999 really is misleading.

Reality is, with an 6 team division, winning that is similar to what winning the old conference is like. The difference being that you may get lucky with your cross-division schedule in a way that allows you to "back into" a division title. Meaning, a team can lose head-to-head against a div foe, but still win the division if that foe had a harder cross-div schedule.

Winning a conference champ isn't the same as it used to be simply due to the nature of larger conferences.

Nicely done. As maligned as the standard is, consistently achieving that standard is quite impressive.

I'm going to say the reason is because most fans don't pay attention to circumstances and only consider the results and the play they see on the field. If a person considers no more than that, then it is logical for them to have noticed that our special teams and OL performance have not been good, therefore.... bad position coaching. I mean none of us can argue that our performance in those areas has been good enough to compete at a higher level. It may not be fair to ignore these other factors but fans aren't typically known for being fair.

I agree with your message in principle.

However, the ST play has been more indicative of organization, scheme and preparation than a problem with talent. Way too many mental lapses and unimaginative schemes to attribute struggles to the players.

 

 

 

What walkons are playing a ton of minutes but not starting? I ask because it's been cav's stated policy to not substitute during games unless it's a blowout. And we haven't had any of those.

 

I still fundamentally disagree with those who claim this OL is piecemeal. There's a lot of talent there, especially relative to most other OLs.

 

I will grant that his OC has done very little to help him and his unit out, though.

Utter - walk on, Hahn - walk on, Conrad - walk on. How can you not consider that piecemeal? I think Cav is getting the brunt of the former staff recruiting misses like Johnson, Painter and Whitaker. I do agree there's talent, but its young.

 

It's been discussed before, particularly in the hyper critical thread about Utter.

 

If you stack up the list of available talent on this roster against the talent available on other rosters, NU compares quite favorably, particularly on the OL.

 

Right now, for example, Wisconsin is starting:

 

RT - 3* (.8767) redshirt freshman - best other offers: Iowa, Illinois, and Indiana

RG - 3* (.8145) true sophomore - best other offers: Syracuse and Iowa St

C - 3* (.8329) true sophomore - best other offers: Georgia Tech, Illinois and Nebraska

LG - 3* (.8898) true freshman - best other offers: Illinois, Michigan St and Nebraska

LT - DIII transfer (no rating) first year in program - best other offers: only record of an offer out of HS was from Chryst while he was at Wisconsin as OC, but that was pulled during coaching transition

 

 

Not one of those guys has more than 2 years in the Wisconsin program.

 

I'm having a hard time seeing how that's better than Nebraska's roster of available players.

Like when we started Hahn, Utter and Conrad?

 

Correct.

CM said we did, so of course we did. Quit arguing.

Wisconsin's best win is quite a bit better than our best win.

 

Wisconsin's worst loss is quite a bit better than our worst loss.

 

They're a damn good football team.

The first is a true statement.

The second is a true statement.

The third is a non sequitur - though I do think they are a solid team, they are also a team that is quite vulnerable. I could see them getting smoked in the B10C, if they make it. If they get lucky and play CMU, they may be ok in the bowl, but if they play anyone with a good offense, it could get ugly. This was a down year for Wisconsin, despite their current ranking, which is based more on "quality losses" than quality wins (LSU is 6-4 and on the edge of the top 25).

 

 

 

God, come on. Don't give us the Holiday Bowl again.

 

Depending on how the CCG goes (assuming Wisconsin makes it and we don't), we might benefit from the possibility of them losing. Historically, the loser of the championship game will pretty often get dropped a spot in the bowl pecking order.

Absolutely, but Wisconsin's perception has been very favorable all year. They have been treated like God's from the committee and other voters.

A lot of fans in here also think Wisconsin is amazing program/team this year. Yes, they are good, but NU had a very winnable game in Madison this year. It wouldn't have been a huge upset that some in here think it would have been.

Very true. Their best win is over an LSU team that is anemic, at best, on offense.

Wisconsin is not very good offensively. At all.

I've seen very little criticism of Brey... may have missed that, though.

 

What walkons are playing a ton of minutes but not starting? I ask because it's been cav's stated policy to not substitute during games unless it's a blowout. And we haven't had any of those.

I still fundamentally disagree with those who claim this OL is piecemeal. There's a lot of talent there, especially relative to most other OLs.

I will grant that his OC has done very little to help him and his unit out, though.

Very much disagree. While Cav is still question mark, the OL has been about as good as we could have hoped considering injuries and all of the walk ons that bane been playing.

 

His refusal to rotate in a couple of subs consistently has rightfully gained him criticism, and it has run off some guys. Thurston comes to mind.

 

I'm not criticizing the OL play. I think it's been overrated and over criticized this year. I just also think it's pretty difficult to assess whether Cav is doing a very good job as OL coach. We'll know more in a couple of years.

 

Pretty much everyone has been earning their keep sans Bruce Read. Cav's offensive line has been fine considering it's context - the run game has had moments of struggle, but it's lacking an elite back and healthy starters, and we're still tied for 5th in the country in sacks allowed through 11 games.

 

 

But to answer your question, because fans don't know jack about coaching football, but fans are convinced that they know quite a bit about coaching football.

I think our next elite back is going to be Tre Bryant.

 

Possibly - I've lost the thread on Ozig (iirc, he's nursing an ankle?) and not sure what happen with Wilbon (off field issues?). I think any of those three has solid potential.

Personally, I always liked Wilbon's running style, but I'm not sure he fits what the staff is looking for from a back. I could see him transferring, though with the lack of RB recruiting this year, that would hurt.

 

What walkons are playing a ton of minutes but not starting? I ask because it's been cav's stated policy to not substitute during games unless it's a blowout. And we haven't had any of those.

 

I still fundamentally disagree with those who claim this OL is piecemeal. There's a lot of talent there, especially relative to most other OLs.

 

I will grant that his OC has done very little to help him and his unit out, though.

Utter - walk on, Hahn - walk on, Conrad - walk on. How can you not consider that piecemeal? I think Cav is getting the brunt of the former staff recruiting misses like Johnson, Painter and Whitaker. I do agree there's talent, but its young.

 

It's been discussed before, particularly in the hyper critical thread about Utter.

If you stack up the list of available talent on this roster against the talent available on other rosters, NU compares quite favorably, particularly on the OL.

Right now, for example, Wisconsin is starting:

RT - 3* (.8767) redshirt freshman - best other offers: Iowa, Illinois, and Indiana

RG - 3* (.8145) true sophomore - best other offers: Syracuse and Iowa St

C - 3* (.8329) true sophomore - best other offers: Georgia Tech, Illinois and Nebraska

LG - 3* (.8898) true freshman - best other offers: Illinois, Michigan St and Nebraska

LT - DIII transfer (no rating) first year in program - best other offers: only record of an offer out of HS was from Chryst while he was at Wisconsin as OC, but that was pulled during coaching transition

Not one of those guys has more than 2 years in the Wisconsin program.

I'm having a hard time seeing how that's better than Nebraska's roster of available players.

What's the history behind Broken Chair?

Result of a twitter battle between Minnesota mascot or AD account and fauxpelini.

Word is Husker admin would prefer to not have any relics from that staff era remain.

What walkons are playing a ton of minutes but not starting? I ask because it's been cav's stated policy to not substitute during games unless it's a blowout. And we haven't had any of those.

I still fundamentally disagree with those who claim this OL is piecemeal. There's a lot of talent there, especially relative to most other OLs.

I will grant that his OC has done very little to help him and his unit out, though.

Newby had a fairly quiet career in some ways, but the guy is quite talented. I think if we'd been a bit more creative on offense, he'd have been in line for some good post season honors. continues a line of great RBs. Will be interesting to see who and how replaced.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are running a very balanced game plan. 31 runs 28 passes. That's what this staff is a about, very balanced offense.

Doing that today against a bad Maryland run defense. Next year and beyond, it will be more pass heavy.

 

Also, how many of the Fyfe runs/sacks were called pass plays.

Where is the evidence? They ran a balanced offense at Oregon State. Mike Riley wants to run the ball and knows it is essential to winning.

Langsdorf is the OC. He likes to pass the ball and doesn't stay comitted to the run.

you are basing this on opinion though. What evidence do your have that this is true because I can look at the numbers and see that he has ran about 55% of the time this season as well as in the past most seasons

I'm basing it on all the WRs that are being recruited and the type of QBs being recruited.

 

Langsdorf has gone more run heavy the past 2 years because he had no confidence in Armstrong, and Tommy was able to do a lot of things running the ball.

 

Basically, the QB run game will be replaced with 4-wide, short passing game and then hit a deep pass from time to time.

We're recruiting a lot of WR's because we're losing a lot of WR depth after this season. If we were planning on going with a 4 WR offense then Derrion Grimm would still be on the team. I too think Langsdorf can get too pass happy at times, but it's not like he's going to go full Air-Raid

I'd rather he go full air raid than "50/50 balance."

Unless you have top 10 talent, 50/50 is a recipe for mediocrity.

Even Alabama (Kiffin) is being dragged kicking and screaming to a mobile QB offenses because the "pro style" rarely pilots an elite college offense.

Langs really is enthralled with the passing game.

I honestly don't understand the durability concerns. The dude has played in 47 games.

And why would Gerry be better at Lb than safety?

We aren't very talented this year, so no big surprise. Maybe the least talented Husker team in my lifetime.

 

I do think we'll see a few guys get drafted this year but I'm not sure any of them are top 10 at their position.

You're quite prodigious to be less than a year old and already posting on the board. This roster is the 20 to 25th best roster in the country depending on which normalized rankings you use.

Westy is way too slow and way too fragile to be drafted. Great hands won't be good enough I'm afraid.

How slow do you think he is?

And fragile? Are you nuts? How many games has he missed since he first started? 2? That'd be 2 out of 47 games.

 

Gerry 3rd-5th, Bando 4th-6th, Maurice (maybe late 6th-7th), and CC 4th-6th.

 

Wildcard is Westy. Great hands and ball skills. Injuries and speed may be a question by NFL teams.

i thought westerkamp was fast, am I misremembering or is this a case of white player good hands must be slow

 

He's fast.

He probably won't post a sub 4.4 40, but 9 of 10 NFL evaluators not named Al Davis will tell you that 40 speed is overrated compared to "get it done speed" - meaning guys who can run the right routes and create space are more valuable and effective than the pure sprinters.

As arguably the best WR in the B10, he's going to get a combine invite. If he posts anything faster than 4.5, he'll be drafted pretty high.

NU will have at least 3 guys drafted and I could see it being 6. a guy or two will have an eye popping combine or pro day performance and move himself into draft position.