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In the criminal justice system, sexual based offenses are considered especially heinous. In New York City, the dedicated detectives that investigate these felonies are members of an elite squad known as the special victims unit. These are their stories. BUM BUM

You forgot:

 

"The following story is fictional and does not depict any actual person or event."

 

 

 

 

They only put that on there to legally cover their ass because they copy real-life situations all the time.

 

One of the episodes of the original Law and Order was based on a murder-suicide type event involving very prominent administrators at my college. It aired a year or two after I graduated but if you knew about what happened it was obvious where they got the idea. Very surreal.

My kid sister was friendly with Bo's daughters. I wish him and his family well and will always appreciate how he helped the team transition away from the disaster that was Callahan but I am not at all sorry that he's no longer the Huskers coach.

 

 

While I understand Ezekiel's frustration, that's really not a smart way to announce your intentions to go pro.

 

 

 

 

It sounds way worse in text form than if you watch the video of it in context.

 

That's good then. I don't know a ton about him but he didn't strike as the type of player to do that; too bad for him the soundbite is the headline.

 

Seems like Ohio St's internal issues are starting to come out. Ezekial Elliot called out the coaches, and already announced he's going to the draft. Cardale Jones announced he's going to the draft as well.

 

 

Man which coach could possibly mess up with that much talent at their disposal!? Oh wait....

He said they were not put in a position to win. Said he lobbied Urban on the sidelines for plays, but to no avail. Finished by saying this was his last home game. NFL draft bound......

 

Beck........If he was actually calling the plays. Wow.

 

I just read that play calling was shared by Beck and Ed Warinner. Meyer's not happy but accepted the blame in the post game, as he should. Doubt if that's how he sees it in the next coaches meeting though....

While I understand Ezekiel's frustration, that's really not a smart way to announce your intentions to go pro.

 

 

 

Let me see who everyone is getting mad at for this incident, and let me know if I missed anyone.

 

1. The LPD for always targeting Huskers

2. The OWH for "sensational journalism"

3. TA for throwing a party

4. TA for not telling Mike Riley first thing

5. The girl for being a jersey chaser and then reporting a sexual assault.

6. The kids' parents for not telling their kids to keep their ding-dong in their pants.

7. Other message board posters for spreading further rumors.

8. self righteous posters anry at everyone else for talking about the incident

 

Good one!!!

 

9. Way too serious people who say we shouldn't be making any "funny posts" about a situation involving such a serious accusation. I understand the sexual assault is a serious situation, however, some of the reactions aren't as "serious".

 

Let's keep 'em coming!!!

 

10. Fake Sherlock's that are trying to piece "the case" together

11. Bo Pelini. Because everything bad that happens is somehow all his fault.

 

#10 is my favorite. #4 seems kinda valid though... especially after already talking to the press. I'm actually surprised Riley hasn't developed some sort of facial tick this season.

 

I think Iowa looks ahead and ends up with a less than stellar win over Purdue and that rattles their confidence (and playoff ranking) a bit so they come in distracted and on their heels. I don't think the Husker will come out flat off the bye, and that, with the insane energy in Memorial, will be the deciding factor.

 

My biggest concern is Cowherd's prediction since he just says whatever to troll. I don't think his analysis, such as it is, is wrong but I don't think he believes anything he says either.

Been listening to Cowherd for 10 years. I have heard ANGRILY dismiss a caller who stated that he just says stuff for controversy. Bottom Line: Collin believes what he says AND he is usually right. BUT, man did he just give IOWA some bulletin board material and there is something better about IOWA this year. I think NU can win but better bring the A game for 4 quarters.

 

Not to derail the thread but...

So I don't listen to Cowherd that often but I always thought this was kind of a schtick with him. In fact, I am pretty sure Fox has been running a promo for his new show that is a clip of him saying he doesn't just make controversial assertions to generate interest and I know I have heard him devote segments to that topic in the handful of times I've tuned into his show over the past year.

If a caller accuses him of it on air I could see getting angry but I have to believe he has veto power over the clips Fox uses in its promos; he's clearly media savvy and very image conscious. I'm not saying it's a fair rep but it's there and he does seem to cultivate it. Again, I don't really listen to him, I just saw his "Iowa is Fraud About to be Exposed" clip pop up on a few Husker feeds.

I think Iowa looks ahead and ends up with a less than stellar win over Purdue and that rattles their confidence (and playoff ranking) a bit so they come in distracted and on their heels. I don't think the Husker will come out flat off the bye, and that, with the insane energy in Memorial, will be the deciding factor.

My biggest concern is Cowherd's prediction since he just says whatever to troll. I don't think his analysis, such as it is, is wrong but I don't think he believes anything he says either.

I like to think the team just wanted to prove that even in their worst season in 50 years they can still beat Iowa in their best season ever.

We beat an undefeated Iowa, to spoil their chances for the playoffs with them ranked #5 or higher is huge. It doesn't matter what NU is, it matters what Iowa is. You are delusional if beating an undefeated Iowa isn't a huge victory.

 

I will be the first to say that

a) after the season started, getting to a bowl and 6-6 (with a chance to go 7-6) is better than anyone would have expected

b) when was the last time an unranked NU knocked off two top 10 teams

c) it would be an excellent recruiting tool

d) send the deserving seniors out with some great wins

e) still wouldn't change my opinion about some of the staff (just being honest)

 

Yes. NU needs to win against Rutgers. (Not a gimmee by any stretch) Then NU needs to fire off on Iowa and send them crashing.

I agree with most of this. The team is playing for pride, for the seniors, and for the extra practices that come with a bowl bid, but you're absolutely right that it matters more what Iowa is than what the Huskers are come black Friday.

With the way the season has played out, winning out the last two and defeating an undefeated Iowa will be a great, positive way for the team to move forward and will help alleviate some of the damage done by the bad losses (Illinois, Purdue).

IF Riley can pull this off, he'll finish with two top 10 wins, two tough luck losses (BYU, Miami), and two close losses to (potentially) ranked teams (at this point, not sure if the loser of their head to head match up finishes ranked). IF it shakes out that way, those terrible Illinois and Purdue losses won't loom quite so large, especially with the clear mistakes and injuries.

hilarious this thread is getting stupid, imo

 

 

 

Have any of the top 15 winning programs in cfb ever hired a bad coach and fired him after one season?

 

 

 

Really curious as to any precedent for this.

Alabama fired Mike Price before he coached a game; and Notre Dame did the same to George O'Leary.

Good point!

 

Riley most likely lied on his resume. It probably says something about previously being a 'football coach.'

The thing that concerned me most when he was hired was that I read dozens of quotes from ex-players, media types, and other coaches about what a nice guy Riley is, but I didn't read any about what a solid coach he is. Unfortunately, I think SE's #1 requirement when he was looking to hire someone was to find the opposite of Bo, someone who would be nice and smile a lot and not ruffle any feathers.

 

Jim Harbaugh on Mike Riley:http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Harbaugh-to-take-on-his-mentor-3237439.php

"That was the first time I was ever exposed to a West Coast style of offense, and I really got the bug there, fell in love with that system," Harbaugh said. "He did a tremendous coaching job that year with literally no talent on offense. And we were one game away, one dropped catch away (against the Chicago Bears) from going to the playoffs."

 

Mack Brown on Mile Riley: http://www.omaha.com/huskers/former-texas-coach-mack-brown-says-mike-riley-is-a/article_b71e4dac-daf6-11e4-84bf-13223618c614.html

“He’s much tougher than people think he is,” Brown said. “He’s tough. He’s disciplined. He’s smart. I think we throw this term around a lot, but he’s as close to an offensive genius as there is. ... I think Mike is perfect for this place.”

 

ESPN's Sept. 2014 Most Underrated Coaches Poll: http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/09/espn_poll_names_mike_riley_nat.html

Mike Riley was named the nation's second-most underrated college football coach Saturday in ESPN's weekly college football poll of FBS head coaches.

 

Yes, this season is now an unmitigated disaster but but the narrative that he has never been considered anything but a "nice guy" has zero basis in reality.

There are numerous stories going back for years praising MR as a coach and not just a nice guy. And these aren't anonymous tipsters that some guy claims to have had a beer with, these are other respected coaches including the 2015 "Splash Hire of the Year" and the 97 FBS coaches who voted in the poll. Last September.

Who knows, maybe MR's washed up, burned out, or benefited from low expectations for his entire career but that Coaches Hot City geo-cities-looking website is a joke; the fact that it is getting any attention in this discussion is a pretty sad statement about how far we have to go to right this program. USC twice tried to hire MR and likely would have tried again this year if he were still at Oregon State but I guess some guy who maybe had a drink with a guy who maybe is actually someone important in some program in the PAC-12 probably knows best.

All that said, SE's letter was a terrible, bewildering PR blunder that could do nothing but hurt MR and the team. That's all on SE and UNL's administration, not on MR and the players.

I've had have it and it's one of those injuries that you might you never get clear of, even if you think you're healed. It clearly killed Martinez's college career; here's hoping Armstrong is more fortunate.

 

 

If NU tanks this seasons, i.e., loses out, this staff should be summarily fired and Frost or gill or just about anyone else should be brought in.

 

 

So the answer to firing Pelini and making a rash choice in Riley, is to hire the guy with no HC experience who's been running someone else's pass-happy offense in Oregon, or the coach of Liberty University with the 52-67 career record?

 

This. I don't know what kind of bizzarro world explains the overlap between those lusting after Frost as HC one moment and all hot and bothered the next because Riley hasn't shown sufficient "commitment" to the run this year, but it exists. I don't want to sh!t all over Bo (even though that is technically the purpose of his thread); but I honestly do not understand the lack of hate for Scott Frost; that douche hid in a closet while his "girlfriend" was beat up and dragged down the stairs. By her hair.

To paraphrase Bo, what kind of "core values" are those? We can argue about which coach is too "nice" or too "passionate" or whose sh!tty season is better or worse but who seriously wants that guy within 10,000 yards of this program? IMHO, he's almost as bad as that ginger tool at Penn State.

Maybe it's because the deep ball works really well in practice all week. Oh, wait...

 

The great thing about stats is you can look this stuff up and compare. While Riley's not the guy you bring in to fix a penalties problem, he also didn't bring this problem with him to Nebraska. Between 2008 and 2014 both Nebraska and Oregon State average out to be the #27th most penalized team. To be fair to Bo, the team showed improvement under the last few years and this time range also includes the Texas 12 trying to screw us on the way out. That said, Nebraska was still more penalized than their opponents in every year between 2008-2013.

Nebraska Average Penalty Rank = 27.71428571 Oregon State Average Penalty Rank = 27.71428571

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/downs/sort/totalPenalties/year/2014

http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?spid=22&spsid=5

 

Bo's teams definitely didn't start out very well on penalties but they got quite a bit better. But the better number to go by is penalties per game. Nebraska played one more game than OSU in 2009, two more in 2010, and one more in 2011, 2012 and 2014. So you're not really comparing apples to apples.

 

Ranking in penalties per game starting in 2008:

Nebraska - 103, 92, 114, 99, 66, 81, 63

Oregon State - 89, 112, 69, 109, 80, 92, 122

 

So Oregon State was noticeably better from 2008-2010 while Nebraska was significantly better since then.

 

Fair enough. I couldn't find those numbers before but it is a much more fair comparison.

I did manage to find them after your post and looked back at penalty yards per game between 2008-2014. Riley's Oregon State averaged 61.52, Bo's Huskers 59.44, so that's a 2 yard disadvantage to Riley coached teams. There's the same ~2 yards disadvantage to Riley coached teams if you take out the best and worst seasons for each (2013 and 2014 for Riley, 2010 and 2014 for Bo). I don't think that's a huge downgrade but it's not exactly ideal.

On the bright side, Oregon State had a better and more consistent turnover margin (Average +.085 | 5 yrs with positive margins | 1 negative | 1 even) than the Huskers (Average -.385 | 2 positive yrs | 4 negative | 1 even) between 2008-2014.

The great thing about stats is you can look this stuff up and compare. While Riley's not the guy you bring in to fix a penalties problem, he also didn't bring this problem with him to Nebraska. Between 2008 and 2014 both Nebraska and Oregon State average out to be the #27th most penalized team. To be fair to Bo, the team showed improvement under the last few years and this time range also includes the Texas 12 trying to screw us on the way out. That said, Nebraska was still more penalized than their opponents in every year between 2008-2013.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/downs/sort/totalPenalties/year/2014

http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?spid=22&spsid=5

I was at the Wisconsin game. It was the first home game I've been able to come back for since Tommy Lee was on the field with the marching band. In the last few minutes, when things looked like they were actually going to break right for the Huskers, the players were so pumped up and interacting with the crowd. I've never seen Memorial stadium like that and am glad I was there. It was easily one of the best live sporting event experiences in my life. When the wheels feel off just a few minutes later I was upset that we lost but felt even more terrible for the players. I wanted them to win for them but you could tell they wanted to win for the fans.

Texas is so bad their fans are becoming apathetic... it's not even very much fun to troll them anymore.

I lived in Austin from fall 2006 until this spring. Texas fans are the worst, I mean just terrible. They stopped showing up at games years ago, even when Mack was still there. They booed their own team all the time, the saddest was when they booed Garrett Gilbert off the field and the next day it comes out he was trying play hurt and basically had to have his shoulder sewn back on. On top of that, when they announced Charlie Strong was the new head coach it became painfully obvious how many unreconstructed halfwits are in that fan base.

We're not Longhorns fans, so I really hope there isn't any booing.

It was another in string of questionable terrible j@ck@ss play calls that ended up busted at the snap but I don't think anyone is lying about it not supposed to be a pass. This sort of thing is going to happens when you are trying to install a new system and are relying on different personnel every week. If the reports are right, Carter and Ozigbo both had the play wrong and Armstrong tried to improvise. That stupid plays take away spoiled positive games for both Carter and Ozigbo.

It was a rough day for Armstrong too but he has progressed enough as a passer this year that he could should be an awesome dual-threat cornerstone of a solid running-based offensive scheme. The coaching staff clearly doesn't want that and so he's trying to fit their system. That's what he is supposed to do but I think it's hurting his game; a year ago I think he tucks it and runs on that play. I can't fault him for trying to make a play but he's clearly been overcoached not to run and for a player with his skills that's a huge mistake.

 

 

 

7 flags in the first half.

Rileys teams have a history of being highly penalized.

 

Well coached teams usually aren't.

So that's a wash with the prior staff?

 

Year Huskers Opponents

2008 PENALTIES-Yards............... 94-800 64-477

2009 PENALTIES-Yards............... 100-894 84-678

2010 PENALTIES-Yards............... 109-993 63-552

2011 PENALTIES-Yards............... 86-688 77-757

2012 PENALTIES-Yards............... 88-847 78-749

2013 PENALTIES-Yards............... 76-665 59-511

2014 PENALTIES-Yards............... 75-655 78-680

2015 PENALTIES-Yards............... 19-170 11-97

U new here? The last staff was dumb, blind, stupid, incompetent, and inexperienced. A high school staff.

 

This staff is experienced.

 

Yet the last staff never started the season 1 and 2.

 

Yep, I am.

I agree with your point about well coached teams but I'd add that undisciplined, emotionally unstable coaches develop teams and players that reflect those characteristics, like, say Senior Alex Lewis.

You can be critical of the current staff and team for a lot of things but trying to say Nebraska plays sloppy and highly penalized football b/c MR and his staff are in charge is silly given the prior staff's record with penalties and mental breakdowns.

 

7 flags in the first half.

Rileys teams have a history of being highly penalized.

 

Well coached teams usually aren't.

 

So that's a wash with the prior staff?

It's a terrible, heart-breaking loss but it came down to a 50-yard Hail Mary with 1 second to go. Sometimes you win those, sometimes you lose them. No one put up the single season rushing record on us. Armstrong looked good. Lost of suspensions and injuries (on both sides), just goes to show why you play the games. This came down to two missed field goals.

 

 

Here is what they are saying about Stevenson to Nebraska over at a Wisconsin board "Buckyville dot yuku dot com"

 

 

 

As I understand it. Nebraska has been trying to improve it's academic reputation since joining the B10. Doesn't this scream 'We care less about academics'?

 

 

 

Just awesome, we'll be going against him every year and possibly this October in Lincoln.

 

 

 

 

If there's one good thing about this, it's that him and his talent will be shoved in our face every time we play them and maybe more people will get pissed off about it and request that we give kids the same chance other "like minded schools" are giving. Let's stop playing with one hand tied behind our back while throwing at a moving target that has the scoring lines drawn on after the darts are thrown.

 

 

 

 

Ugh. Alabama would almost have been the lesser of two evils. The thing that really chaps me is that Jordan so badly wanted to be a Badger. He committed when we didn't have a coach. I believe he even got a Motion W tattoo. And now he's going to...Nebraska. A team we play every year. It's going to suck REALLY BAD if he becomes the next Montee Ball or Melvin Gordon.

 

 

 

 

Maybe he will only be A mere Abdullah when Nebby plays Sconnie!

 

I was over on buckyville reading some of this also. I usually only go to there leftover board the have some funny stuff on it. Anyway, some of them are kind of upset he didn't get into Whiskey while others are saying they won't lower their standards to let him in. etc. It is pretty well split from what I can tell. Whiskey grads to tend to think their degree is of a greater value than most and the definitely look down on Nebraska in that respect.

 

Usually when fan forums start making these sorts of arguments it's all uniformed BS. With 300+, Nebraska has had more Academic All-Americans than anyone, by a healthy margin. ND and MIT the only other two schools to break 200.

I'm not sure how many Academic All-Americans Wisconsin has in 2015, but in 2013 they had 34(!). Nebraska has had more than 100 on just the football team. Also as of 2013, WI did have an impressive streak of 34 consecutive years with at least one Academic All-American. That tied them with two other schools for second all time, trailing the top school with 42 consecutive years. That school? Nebraska.

All that's not to say that Wisconsin isn't a very well regarded university, but Nebraska has a much, much better track record of academic excellence with their "student ath-O-letes," which is really all that is relevant to this sort of rationalizing.