45timesbetterthanemptysuit

2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

It's been two years. When is Trump going to start these investigations?

Now. Had he started the legal, and necessary investigations during the witch hunt, the Dems would have pushed for impeachment for obstruction. 

What a glorious day! Time to declassify all the FISA warrants, fire up a few special council investigations to look into Schiff and all of his associates for leaking info, Hillary and her entire campaign for using a cut-out to collude with Russia and generate the bogus dossier. Comey and all of his FBI, Fusion GPS. Obama, both for the IRS BS, as well as being fully aware of Russia’s involvement in our election, and choosing to nothing about it as he was certain it was her turn.  Seriously it’s hilarious to hear democrats talk about these pathetic indictments and guilty pleas when the supported Clinton!

I am very happy that I voted for President Trump. Courts, NORKs, Iran, getting other countries to get a bit closer to contribute their promised amount to NATO, trying to put the US on equal footing WRT industry. 

Outstanding! I sure hope this time President Trump picks someone much younger and more conservative. 

2 hours ago, RedDenver said:

Wat? None of that has anything to do with my post that you quoted, which is that there's still 2 guilty pleas and 2 grand jury indictments that hold up regardless of the dossier.

 

If posters haven't read this, they should. Points out that the Nunes memo has publicly verifiable inaccuracies in it that call into question the reliability of the entire thing.

I meant to quote the post you were quoting! Sorry!

2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Steele thought this because he had evidence that Trump was controlled by a foreign power. It was not political, it was because Trump is compromised by the Russians.

 

Being compromise by a foreign power - especially one that is most hostile to America, seems like a pretty disqualifying factor to most rational people.

Too bad he had to use multiple media outlets to corroborate his bogus dossier. Too bad the FBI wasn’t confident enough to disclose the source and who was paying them when they applied. It’s all crap. If it wasn’t they could have been forthcoming in the application and they wouldn’t have needed to be forced by a court to turn over their dirty evidence 

7 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Also doesn't explain away the 2 guilty pleas and the 2 indictments.

Regarding the hack. I’m not buying it at all. The FBI, as incompetent as they seem to be regarding digital comms, never got to look at the server, they had to take the word of the firm (crowdstrike) hired by the DNC. 

8 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

How so? Fair enough on the McCabe testimony, but you realize the dossier was originally created for republicans and Steele is one of the most trusted people in his line of work.

I think anyone that is known by the DOJ to be “desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president” has pretty well shot his trustworthiness to hell. That’s ignoring the whole wife Fusion gps deal. 

24 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Oh I've said much, much worse than that. 

Doesn’t bother me one bit! 

4 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

I'm not sure you're following the story.

 

Donald Trump is attempting to discredit the entire FBI. The conservative blogosphere is running wild with it. It's a good tactic, even if it smells of desperation. 

 

And the President is not entirely wrong. The majority of U.S. intelligence officers were made aware of Russian attempts to hack the U.S. election based on their own intelligence efforts. Donald Trump came into office ignoring the entire U.S. intelligence community, accepting Vladamir Putin's explanation of things instead, for obvious self-serving reasons. I wish I was making that up, but it's public record. So are a litany of intelligence-related blunders the new President has made. 

 

So it's not just a few individuals, or even a secret society. I would guess a vast majority of FBI agents have aligned against Trump because he's creating fresh national security threats on a daily basis. And also, you know, because he is openly attacking their institution. It's only speculation, of course, but anyone with a code of honor and understanding of the world would also consider Donald Trump a clown. An absolute f'ing clown. None of which has anything to do with Hillary Clinton. 

 

 

No he’s not. He’s specifically separated the rank and file from the leadership several times. 

1 minute ago, RedDenver said:

But the memo doesn't say what other evidence was presented as part of the FISA warrant, so there's no way to know if the Steele info was the "basis" for issuing the warrant.

Good point! Regardless the Yahoo story, and anything from Steele is garbage. 

6 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

The first bolded part appears to be wrong, which undermines the rest of your assertions. The second bolded part seems wrong because the continuing FISA warrants were based on what they found when surveilling Page.

 

The second paragraph is just a rant based based on your own unverified opinions.

The Carter Page fisa app cites a sep 23 Yahoo article by Isikoff. Article is derived by info leaked by Steele to Yahoo

2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Not what the memo says so whats the truth? This is the memo everyone was begging to be released. Is it now not legitimate?

 

Also what is your source McCabe testified the dossier was the reason for the warrent? I've seen the exact opposite of that

1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

@45timesbetterthanemptysuit excuse me the memo says Papadopoulos got things started.

McCabe testified that no FISA warrant would have been sought by the FISC without the Steele Dossier. That’s enough for me, but I will see if the Page warrant is equally corrupt!

1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

Doesn't it say right in the memo the basis of the warrent was Carter Page and had nothing to do with the dossier?

Let me look! I know the Carter Page in Russia story was corroborated by a circular release. 2 media sources printing it. I thought Steele fed that story also. 

1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

Hilariously, the first hit that comes up when you search the hashtag #meowler is this one:

 

 

 

 

Lol! Democrats! The entire democrat party should be quietly scuttled right now for the good of the country. They are desperate to cling to anything to discredit it. Why not go right to McCabe and ask him if he said it? 

4 minutes ago, commando said:

lol....meowler.   in another post you were upset at people using derogatory names.   remember chastising someone for using the name drumph?

 

i wonder which alt right sight you got that name from?

Oh, I wasn’t upset! Someone called me out about using names! I only seek consistency!

7 minutes ago, deedsker said:

Do you read?

Yes I do. That was McCabes testimony. It’s right there in the memo 

So, there would be no FISA warrant without the dossier written by a man the FBI knew was desperate to keep Trump from being elected. The Dossier was corroborated by Steele leaking it to the media, who’s circular reporting corroborated the dossier. (Steele got fired for it later) the FBI knew, and witheld that the dossier was paid for by the dnc/Clinton campaign. Comey, Rosenstein, Yates etc signed off on the application. They used media story duplicity to make Carters Russia trip look bad. If page was under investigation, why let the incoming admin add him to the Staff?

FBI, DOJ is corrupt as hell at the top. Should this lead to obama, Clinton etc. I don’t know if jail is sufficient. Needless to say, no real court would let meowlers witch hunt continue as all of the fabricated evidence is fruit of the poisonous tree. Time to find out what meowler knew about the fraudulent activity at the top of Obama’s DOJ and FBI, perhaps he should be prosecuted also. Obama has brought deep shame to our great country. I hope the Dem leaders have the courage and conviction to denounce him and his cohorts for the good of our great nation. 

4 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Which part of this chart is confusing to you.

 

I only see 3 charts?

unemployment rate

monthly job gains

labor participation rate. 

I dont see the chart that shows what the wage gains are so I only have the part of the article that I quoted that says wage gains are the greatest in 8 years. You know, the part that I found depressing that the somewhat meager gains are the best in years. Do you see a 4th chart? I’m on an iPhone. Sometimes they don’t display everything! Heck I even went to the Link you provided. My phone must have cached my link as it didn’t show your link that refutes mine!

1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

It's not. Read the chart that came with the article you posted.  Obama had several significantly higher months than this one.

 

 

From the AP article. 

“robust 200,000 jobs in January, and wages rose at the fastest pace in more than eight years,”

16 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Maybe you should do one thread instead of a new one every time you find something new 

If I do one thread for the good things, and the rest of the forum does one thread for the bad things, we would only have two threads here!

10 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Americans really need wages to rise, so this is good:

 

Yep. It’s not much yet, and actually a bit depressing that this was a high level mark for the last few years. Frankly I would rather see this go up than the market, so long as the Dollar remains steady or stronger. One of my fears with a stock market making gains is its relationship to the dollar. Tough to be certain if the real value is rising, or the value of the dollar is falling. If the dollar was falling, it must have been bolstered by the economic issues worldwide 

6 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Actually, just change the thread title to what the news is instead of making us guess. The title from the article would be good:

US added strong 200K jobs in January; pay up most in 8 years

Will do! It just seemed that the forum could use more positive thoughts. So many seem to look very hard for the negative. 

Awesome news all around!

I would like to see the labor participation rate tick up, but this is fantastic! We’re getting this ship turned around!

Just now, knapplc said:

 

It's not odd. It actually broke down along the lines of which people watch Fox News and which didn't.  Those who do watch Fox like Trump. Those who don't consume that garbage see Trump for what he really is.

So if I start watching Fox News I will like Trump even more? Perhaps I should try that!

3 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

The vets I know were split about 50/50 before the election. They're about 60% not liking Trump now.

 

I'm not sure why you want to make a comment about my feelings as I haven't mentioned them.

I assume you are a vet. You were speaking for vets weren’t you?