Apsu

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

you talk in circles. 

Bye, you're blocked.

Some hard questions should be answered by Biden as he runs for president in 2020. Was it appropriate for your son and his firm to cash in on Ukraine while you served as point man for Ukraine policy? What work was performed for the money Hunter Biden’s firm received? Did you know about the Burisma probe? And when it was publicly announced that your son worked for Burisma, should you have recused yourself from leveraging a U.S. policy to pressure the prosecutor who very publicly pursued Burisma?

Joe Biden and his son Hunter may have leveraged the [2014] Maidan coup and war in East Ukraine to strike lucrative oil fracking deals in East Ukraine, along with a John Kerry family friend. Limassol, Cyprus based energy firm Burisma Holdings, collected large energy contracts in the East of Ukraine, with Hunter Biden, Devon Archer and oligarch Ihor Kolomoyskyi, closely tied to the energy production company, which pushed for fracking exploration on land owned by East Ukrainian residents.

Because someone who is independent would be better than a Democrat or a Republican?

6 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

Agreed.  The people at work think anyone with socialist ideas at all is a complete socialist period and there is no difference.  It's black and white for the most part.  Pretty limited world view imho.

I have family members who think Mayor Pete is a socialist, because he is a gay Democrat.

4 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

That’s what I did. 

Then your post doesn’t make sense. 

Then please ask for clarification.

I have spent the better part of the day replying to people here.

32 minutes ago, Decoy73 said:

You stated the Bidens should be investigated. By whom?  

Maybe an independent prosecutor?

1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:

That’s what I did. 

 

Then your post doesn’t make sense. 

I mentioned Biden and his son.

I dunno... does Hunter have a son?

23 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

He's a guy who pushes theories like:

 

The American Intelligence community can't be trusted

The Russian investigation was a hoax

Michael Flynn would have been a good National Security Advisor

The media is censoring you (especially if you're conservative)

He uses terms like "witch hunt" a lot

 

You should check him out. Sounds like he'd be right up your alley.

Actually I don't watch many YouTube commentators at all.

Shapiro sounds like someone who preaches to the choir for page hits.

20 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

How am I supposed to take that any other way than you linking Hunter to the push to fire the prosecutor?

Easy...

If I said it, that is what I meant.

If I did not say it but you thought I might, please ask.

Oh... My... God...

http://www.gopusa.com/hillary-clintons-big-comeback-begins-today/?fbclid=IwAR3Nss3WfHSY_hYy_77tznF5rk9U3CfS9UpqBTPXF8Ch6VEX7UXucwKqvlo

2 hours ago, Fru said:

Those Ben Shapiro podcasts won’t listen to themselves.

I am a stay at home dad for six month old twins.

Who (TF) is Ben Shapiro?

3 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

I'm honestly not even sure what you mean by this but it doesn't matter. You can have your opinion of what happened and I will stand by the factual information until more is presented.

I am surprised that you are commenting on politics, while not knowing what manufactured consent is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

3 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

Well thats not what our intelligence agencies, people who do these things for a living say, but what do they know?

Some people buy what these agencies release for public consumption, when it fits their narrative.

3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Then what’s the point of saying Hunter wasn’t a government official?

You invented that, I never said it.

1 hour ago, BlitzFirst said:

I've been told that Warren and Sanders are basically the same thing by multiple people at work.

Elizabeth Warren is backing away from M4A, and her foreign policy voting record is closer to that of John McCain or Lindsey Graham.

And I doubt very much that Bernie Sanders would be meeting with Hillary Clinton to discus election strategy.

1 hour ago, Frott Scost said:

 

No, she hasn't endorsed anyone yet.  Warren wants it badly though.

Maybe her daughter can buy the endorsement for her, like she did that of the Working Families Party.

It only cost $45,000.

Out for a while, need to do more important stuff.

1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

So Russia did not influence the elections? 

Not much.

I would say that a couple of Mideast nations did more to influence them directly and through their citizens donating to candidates, PACs and charitable organizations.

1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

No it drives home the point that there is no probable cause nor is there a crime. 'Biden may have done something wrong, can't you see that??' No I can't because all of the facts available say otherwise. Until you can bring some facts to support your claims you have been officially discredited on the Biden is corrupt front.

It drives hope that my opinion runs counter to the political will those who manufacture consent, so nothing will happen.

Please answer this... Do you believe that the media is in the business of manufacturing consent?

2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Literally none of this is true, and these are not tenets of Democratic thinking.

1) The DNC has not been reformed, Hillary lost because of Russian influence.

2) We do have a cold war with Russia, and Democrats have approved all of Trump's military budgets.

3) Alternative media has been censored.

Democrat actions do not meet what should be Democrat thinking, which is why I am not a Democrat.

1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

What is the probable cause to warrent an investigation in the first place???

Asking the same question over and over again will not get you an answer that you will be happy with.

4 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

That doesn't matter. Flynn was under investigation, Trump fired Comey because of it and that is called probable cause for an investigation into obstruction of justice. Still waiting on an example of such for Biden, the subject of this conversation

Still waiting on the investigation, but you knew that.

6 minutes ago, knapplc said:

A lot of this doesn't jive.

As a progressive, Russiagate had three main objectives:

1) Make an excuse as to why Hillary lost, to justify not fixing the DNC.

2) To start a new cold war with Russia, which we now have.

3) To justify the censorship of alternative media.

Sanders has not said much about Russiagate, just enough to keep him in the good graces of the DNC so they don't blackball his candidacy.

Michal Flynn was anti-war, which would have made him a good National Security Advisor.

Does it jive now?

2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

He pleaded guilty so how was he cleared of wrongdoing? The fact is Trump admitted to firing Comey because of this. Whether you like it or not that is probable cause for an investigation into obstruction of justice. You STILL haven't given me the potential crime or the probable cause that would warrent an investigation into Biden

Confessions happen for many reasons, often as part of a larger deal.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/10/michael-flynn-defense-alleges-doj-cover-up-russia-investigation/1545599001/

Yesterday AOC was spotted in Burlington with Senator Sanders.

Will there be an endorsement coming?