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1 minute ago, BaytownHusker said:

 

I honestly don't see Colby leaving SFA any time soon either. I mean down here SFA is better the Texas State lol But stranger things Happen.

He's not making a ton of money at SFA although he's winning a ton of games. It would be a hard pull but I could see them easily tripling his salary.

2 minutes ago, BaytownHusker said:

 

Not while Cam is still there.

Yeah fair point, just a lot of G5 texas jobs opening up this offseason. There's gonna be a sweepstakes for Carthel and outside of that Eric Morris is the first that came to mind. Could see Fuente taking a job of that stature. Maybe coach applewhite honestly?? They're gonna go at Morris pretty hard. He's a great candidate for any Texas G5.

T - The task of replacing Mickey with a full-time recruiter of his caliber is a tall task. As a HC he's limited on how much recruiting he can do off-campus.

Here's my projection of all the HC changes this offseason

Arizona St - Josh Gattis, Miami OC

Auburn - Kevin Steele, Miami DC

Nebraska - Matt Rhule, Carolina HC

Wisconsin - Jim Leonhard, Interim

Indiana - Sean Lewis, Kent State HC

Colorado - Tony Alford, OSU AHC

Louisville - Jeff Brohm, Purdue HC

Purdue - Ryan Walters, UIUC DC

Georgia Tech - Brent Key, Interim

North Texas - Eric Morris - Wazzu OC

South Florida - HCSF (not kidding. I bet he has more than one offer on this list. Texas St, NT, and Charlotte Message Boards all want him) 

Navy - Brent Davis, Army OC

West Virginia - Jamey Chadwell, Coastal HC

Coastal Carolina - Willy Korn, Coastal OC 

Texas State - Colby Carthel, Stephen F. Austin HC

Charlotte - Scott Satterfield, Louisville HC

Bowling Green - Barry Lunney, UIUC OC

Stanford - Mike Bloomgren, Rice HC

Rice - A kid playing Xbox

Kent State - A kid playing Xbox but not making money doing it

26 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

No I want to be the coach if he earns that right to be the coach. Get your sh** straight if he makes the team better why shouldn't he not be the head coach. I have my own group of coaches I'd like to see but it has to start in house first and if there is any indication what your going to see from this team you know the players will be fighting for MJ to coach them next year. You can't tell me why other then not having the experience as a head coach as to why he shouldn't be the head coach.

Don't get this logic. Why does this need to be in house first? Give me the guy with fresh philosophies, with experience evaluating scheme and skill on both sides of the ball and a track record of setting and achieving organizational objectives over years, not weeks.

And why should we settle for the closest guy to the situation? This team just lost a 10,000lb backpack they were playing with week-in and week-out. They would have played better no matter who the interim was. Credit to Mickey, the guy is highly respected for a reason, but I'd rather he be where his skills are maximized, which is teaching WR's, building the relationships necessary to keep kids out of the portal, and recruiting in-home, which HC's have limitations on per NCAA rules.

3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Also interesting that Riley must not have been USC's first pick?

The reporting and circumstances say that Riley wasn't available when they fired Clay but became available after they'd started their search.

It's been reported that they offered Aranda and Fickell but it's understood that Riley's agent approached the USC search team midway or toward the end of their process. There wasn't a list he was third on, perse

20 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Agent has a lackluster client in need of a boost.

 

Agent has their (unpaid) interns post anonymously on message boards and the twitter saying his client would be a good fit for job X.

 

Agent gets a blogger to blog some bloggy stuff about how people are talking about coach Y for job X.

 

Local and national beat writers, who are contractually obligated to produce a Top 5/7/10 list of targets for each job opening, cite the blogger citing the interns.  

 

Now that the agent has attention for his client as a Candidate, he can negotiate a higher salary at their current stop or at whatever new school ends up desperate enough to hire him. 

 

It's a seamless, bulletproof method of promotion. 

Oh my god you're actually right, two comments in his history

Not a very inspiring hire. Reminds me of bringing in Houston Nutt

I can defend the Chryst firing. The big ten west has about two more years until we go to a 3-6 scheduling scenario with nine games and three locked opponents, which is far more likely with the conference's geography in 2024 and beyond. PC was good for beating Iowa and Minnesota but not for being OSU, Michigan, USC, and Penn State regularly. Best to start the rebuild now and be in a good position to compete than later after the conference is more competitive and the top two teams play in Indy (or los angeles).

Of all the teams in the B10 West, Wisconsin has the most to lose 'after the merge' (survivor reference). Their brand of football dominates the West, but they have a hard time recruiting skill position players, have pretty tough academic requirements relatively speaking, and have to compete with the Packers for revenue. They can't really expand facilities and Camp Randall needs a facelift. Practice facilities are some of the worst in the P5 and Madison isn't exactly set up for new construction. They don't even have a 100-yard practice field.

Nebraska, on the other hand, has all these things going for it with room to grow. I don't see Michigan or Penn State being more competitive after merge, I see Iowa having an absolute shytshow to deal with in the near future with their administration and staff, and Michigan State is locked into a bad contract with a coach who's juggling knives with his roster. USC looks fine for the long term, but they'll probably drop one every year in November when they have to play Illinois or Purdue in freezing temps.

The way I see it, the Chryst firing is just confirmation that Nebraska is in a good spot. The narrative that came out after the frost firing about the 10-year plan for the big ten has schools like wisconsin and iowa afraid to wait. I don't think timing could be worse for them and better for us.

6 minutes ago, B1GRED said:

Wisconsin hubris in 2022 = Huskers in 2003

Maybe so, but Nebraska didn't have Jim Leonhard. Pretty similar to us turning to Bo in 2003, but if Bo were a better coaching prospect and taking calls from every other P5 job opening.

On 10/1/2022 at 9:18 AM, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

I'm a fan of Jamey Chadwell too, and his Coastal Carolina squad plays Georgia Southern today 

Curious why? The sample size of his scheme against actual P5 defenses is one game against a BYU team that got four days notice. 

I really want to buy in to the guy but I can't get around that fact. Hope they get a NY6 berth and get to take on OK State etc cause I'd love to see it.

14 minutes ago, Touchdown Tommie said:

Might get blasted on this one, but here we go....

 

Rossi from Minnesota...defensive minded coach. Has had success in the BIG and has sent guys to the NFL. Did a great job when Fleck actually had the balls to fire his DC in 2018 and turned it around. Pains me to go this route, but we may need to accept the fact that a big name (already head coach) may not be coming to coach the Huskers. I hope I am wrong, but I just don't see it happening.

Rossi is a fantastic coach. He does a lot of offseason clinic work for high school coaches in the twin cities and I've sat in on a handful of his sessions. Amazing teacher and will be an excellent HC.

Ryan Walters, Rossi, and Leonhard are all going to be great head coaches soon, but they're all still pretty green as far as those organizational skills go. I'd say Leonhard would be able to step into the Nebraska job or any other P5 job and really excel, but Rossi and Walters will probably go the MAC/FCS route prior..

I do disagree that we need to get a coordinator. Should be plenty of HCs wanting to be on solid footing in their conferences.

33 minutes ago, Cdog923 said:

Here's a question: why DeBoer and not Leipold?

1 hour ago, Husker in WI said:

FWIW most of what I've heard is a vocal subset of the fan base wanting to move on, and most of the media guys and the majority of the fans recognize its a little early for that. We are frequently brought up as an example that the grass isn't always greener on the other side of a coaching change. 

 

They also just hasn't played Ohio State in 3 years and forgot what its usually like. This was worse than some, but they haven't been particularly close to beating OSU since their top ten teams in 16/17. Both teams are closer to where they were in 2014, when 59-0 prompted Gary Anderson to bail for lower admission standards and easier schedules. 

Good perspective. I live around a lot of badger fans too and it seems almost unanimous but fans are fans. I've also caught a few radio clips that confirm it's a sentiment out there.

15 minutes ago, Red Five said:

 

So he turned down USC and then they turned to Riley?  I don't think that is how it happened. 

That's how it's been reported. It's obviously not fact but the story is that Fickell had the job if he wanted it and Lincoln's agent approached them pretty late in the process.

8 hours ago, huskerfan74 said:

Luke Fickell will come for the right amount. He has a personality that will fit the Trev mold and he has Cincinnati clicking on all cylinders. I also like O’Brien and Bret Bielema. Illinois will make some noise this season.

Doesn't make sense to me that he'd turn down USC and come to Nebraska. Guy won't leave Ohio to coach

6 hours ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

Well I keep hearing the media's choice is Lance Leipold bc of what he has done at Kansas. I hate the media outlets bc they obviously feel he would be a great hire. Big 10 football and Big 12 football are two totally different leagues with their styles and toughness. 

Not really true anymore now that everyone caught up to the air raid. Go look at last year's scoring defenses, there are 4 Big 12 teams in the top 25 and 5 big 10.

Jim Knowles was hired at OSU out of Oklahoma St and they've immediately improved.

There's almost zero difference between the two leagues aside from a consistency in pro-zone/off-tackle offensive scheme (Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan) and one conference has a team that's good enough to make a playoff and get waxed by Georgia/Alabama more consistently than the other. To say one is tougher isn't based in any facts.

2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

 

I didn't think I'd have to explain that was a joke, but here we are. Editing...

Not for you, but a lot of people seem to think Lane is chomping at the bit to come 'home' 

Not necessarily a rumor but it's definitely getting play locally in Madison and nationally. Something I see coming to a head in the next 14 months.

If UW moved on from Chryst it's pretty safe to say their next coach is either Leipold or Leonhard, unless the way they go about it makes the program toxic. Both guys have clear ties to the state and wisconsin fans love em.

Would have some huge ramifications in the current coaching carousel and beyond. They obviously have huge potential but PC isn't going to elevate them.

7 minutes ago, knapplc said:

So, Lane's out?

 

 

Yes, he was never in to begin with

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Seems like a win/win/lose:

- Big schools (Nebraska) win because they can let the market work in their favor and allow the market to set caps

- Big athletes (Malachi Coleman, Casey Thompson, insert recruit or player) win because their earnings are now tied to brand and school

- Little schools (ULM, Buffalo) and Little athletes (4* that redshirted, walk-on, even WR3/RB2, e.g.) find themselves on shaky ground since licensing deals are driven by the athlete's brand.

Couple interesting questions:

- Can the players establish licensing deals for other mediums? NCAA '23, broadcasts (??), tweets with images, etc. I'm just thinking merch because that's the easiest way to experiment.

- How would these licensing deals impact the coaching compensation market? Hard to imagine that as soon as the floodgates open for this that football coaches will still be able to command their massive portion of the athletics salary. Hard to see them sticking around and taking paycuts without a mass exodus for the NFL. Not my opinion, just taking the thought experiment through. 

1. Aranda

2. Stoops

3. Leonhard

4. DeBoer

5. Leipold

6. PJ Fleck 

7. Jeff Monken

8. Matt Campbell

9. Howard Schellenberger Urban Meyer

10. Jeff Traylor

Argue about something else!!

6 hours ago, talaricohusker said:

It has to happen or Trev loses his job next year. It falls on him so if it’s an underwhelming hire Trev seat gets hotter then the pit of a volcano

This is like the third time you’ve said this. Say it one more time and maybe it becomes true

Urban is sleazy like your brother-in-law. Art Briles is sleazy like you see on a netflix documentary

4 minutes ago, Red Silk Smoking Jacket said:

 

They did do a hell of a job at keeping the Lincoln Riley thing under wraps. Pretty much announced officially the same day as the leaks started IIRC. There were some minor rumblings throughout the season that Riley wasn't happy at OU, but I don't think anyone saw the USC thing coming.

Yeah I recall there being some smoke that he was linked to LSU but the USC stuff shocked everyone

24 minutes ago, Red Silk Smoking Jacket said:

 

I've always kind of felt like search firms are more to provide a layer of cover and act as the school's agent more than actually identifying candidates. Allows active coaches to say things like "I've never been contacted by the University of Nebraska" and allows the firm to put out initial feelers without anyone knowing who it's for. Trev doesn't pick up the phone and call the coach directly and say, "Hey, you interested in the Nebraska job?" He makes that call the the search firm, who makes that call to the agent, who makes that call to the coach. It's like having a buyer's agent and a seller's agent in real estate. You may find the house you want yourself, then you let the agents hammer out the details for you. They're just another go-between to keep things cleaner.

Correct, firms just offer cover. Facilitating hotel conference rooms, private jets, scheduling and structuring evaluation and interview questions in some cases.

The only interesting things about this one are that they have the playbook on poaching from a blue blood and they have Luke Fickell's cell. Not much else.