TonkaSker

11 hours ago, Bigred_inSD said:

Deion is waiting for FSU to open up

Deion and FSU aren't all that tight. He's not a lock to take that job if they offer from what I hear

He interviewed for TCU last year and I'd be surprised if there's not a lot of buzz for him at ASU. Same type of job (big metro, good weather, undervalued brand)

5 minutes ago, Red Silk Smoking Jacket said:

 

Outside of Lincoln Riley, Luke Fickell, and maybe Jeff Traylor...meh.

That's the extent of it unless you're a monken guy. 

I hope the sellout streak dies and it's never mentioned again. Just focus on winning, the present, and the future. 

17 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

And which search firm is that? How many search firms are out there? Is there one that stands out(reputation) more then the rest?? How do you know that its the same search firm please do share

I literally linked to their website. Parker, CSA, and Eastman are the three I know of that are solid. Most ADs with experience just do it themselves and use independent guys they contract to conduct the searches.

13 minutes ago, junior4949 said:

 

The more I've read about and thought about it, I doubt luring Riley away from OU to USC was that big of a challenge.  Apparently, the OU boosters and such weren't really interested in opening up the purse strings for Riley while he was at OU.  

To keep a hire like that a complete secret in the current media market is a massive accomplishment. Not only that, but they have the blueprint to do so.

To your second point, it's also not like OU was a poverty program. Dude had it relatively made there and could have flirted with other jobs to get his way, which is what these guys typically do.

ADs/Media guys all agree that it was a huge deal, especially in the way it went down. Hindsight is 20/20 but at the time it had as much basis as Lane Kiffin to NU, for example.

Nebraska's working with the same search firm that helped USC land Lincoln Riley, FYI

Scroll down to see some of their other placements. Lot of good names. Also pretty promising that none of the ADs placed oversee any head coaches we'd be looking to hire.

https://collegiatesportsassociates.com/previous-placements/

The NIL kicker is interesting. Have to wonder if pricing that in for 15 years throws a blanket on the athlete compensation initiative Kevin Warren and Gene Smith have floated

6 minutes ago, gorp512 said:

 

This guy is a mad scientist. Him or Leonhard please.

None of these rumors have any basis. I’d like to congratulate this guy on accomplishing his task of getting clicks and views out of a fanbase desperate for developments. 

9 minutes ago, skeener said:

When Oklahoma hit rock bottom with three straight losing seasons under Blake in the late 90's, they didn't hire a guy who was a HC, or former HC, from another school.  They hired a Defensive Coordinator.  And that DC, Bob Stoops, turned it around immediately. 

 

Alberts needs to find the Coordinator or the non-Power five HC who is ready to successfully take then next step.  Happens all the time.  Just need the right guy.  All this talk about hiring name brand Head coaches who don't want to come here in the first place is misguided.

Jim Leonhard baby. Dude is a hall of fame coach waiting for his first job. My favorite candidate this cycle. The guy has “it”. 
 

Elite teaching and developmental skills, young and extremely hungry for success, an X’s and O’s wizard, and always has his guys ready prepared. All the traits you saw with Stoops. 

1 minute ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

The hypocrisy among Nebraska fans is unreal. Some of the things Osborne condoned during his tenure were worse than anything Urban did, yet he’s revered throughout the state as a man of great character and integrity 

When you have the power to ban weed and gambling it’s easy to whitewash your moral character 

57 minutes ago, Vince R. said:

It might be a slight stretch, but I have to imagine he would tell 15-20 guys to leave the program. It's a lot of open schollies. 

You guys love throwing these massive assumptions out there with zero comps. This has never happened. Nobody has ever had a transfer class comprised of 40 blue chip prospects. None of this has any basis in reality.

7 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Nebraska is not like the others.  It just isn’t.   If you hire a great Defensive HC and then build a new offense unlike the rest, you have something that MIGHT work.   No other place in the entire country is similar to Nebraska.  

Aside from your fuzzy feelings about the program I don’t really know how that’s true. Would love to hear a case that Nebraska is this unique program that has to win and lose differently than the other 130 FBS programs 

38 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Nebraska is unlike anywhere else.  You decide on the type of team, identity, etc and then hire a HC accordingly.  Not just any ‘good’ HC will do.  Nebraska is a design-build project, and doesn’t come with cookie cutter blueprints.  
 

This seems to be the problem with coaching hires recently.  Just go out a hire some ‘hot’ name running everybody’s latest fad schemes.    Offenses and defenses are NOT one size fits all.  

Not sure I agree with you. Chadwell is the only person I've even seen mentioned that runs a unique scheme and I don't think he's going to be coaching at Nebraska.

There was a small run on hiring out of the Briles tree (Dino Babers, Sean Lewis, Montgomery at Tulsa) and Briles was part of a run out of the Leach tree but Nebraska's never really gone after scheme in hiring. You can make the argument that Riley was a scheme hire but I don't think that's a very strong argument given the conflicts with Bo weren't based on offensive scheme. Not like the perimeter west coast was novel.

I do agree with your point about Nebraska being design-build, so let's take a look at the design-builders on the market. These are guys who've elevated poor programs steadily and consistently. Most have done it more than once. A lot of these guys have had their names tossed out there:

- Matt Rhule (Temple, Baylor)

- Bill O'Brien (Penn State)

- Matt Campbell (Toledo, ISU)

- Lance Leipold (Buffalo, KU(?))

- PJ Fleck (WMU, Minnesota)

- Chris Petersen (Boise, UW)

- Chip Kelly (Oregon - with $ome help)

- Dan Mullen (Miss State)

- Lane Kiffin (FAU, Miss)

- Mark Stoops (UK)

- Bob Stoops (OU)

- Mike Leach (TT, Wazzu)

- Bill Snyder (KSU)

- Mike Gundy (OSU)

- Pat Narduzzi (Pitt)

Most of these guys are great teachers and good schemers who steadily improved the quality of the product. A few of these guys are promoters who brought in fans and improved the brand (Fleck and Kiffin, Gundy to some extent). Nebraska needs the former, obviously the brand is all that's left. Outside of these names, most of them worked under a great coach themselves as a younger coordinator. Very few, if any were established P5 coaches when they arrived at their last stops. Leach and Petersen being the two best examples.

A lot of people are overlooking Jim Leonhard here but I see a ton of Bob Stoops in him and I think he's got the elite teaching skills which show up in his development and on the field every week. Probably the best DC in the country and possibly one of the best true coordinators. Look at Aranda, not only are there real ties between the two but watch an Aranda coaching clinic, the guy is a college professor. Same goes for Pete Golding but I don't see him getting a real look. Fantastic teacher. Muschamp has that same teaching ability but wasn't a great CEO. 

9 hours ago, Lorewarn said:

Except for all the times they aren't in coaching, which is....all the time.

 

Rich Rod at WVU compared to Michigan and everywhere else.

 

Dan Hawkins at Boise and then CU compared to Chris Petersen at Boise and then Washington

 

Mack Brown at Texas compared to Mack Brown at USC 

 

Les Miles at Okie State compared to Les Miles at LSU

 

Les Miles at LSU compared to Kansas

 

Charlie Strong at Louisville compared to Texas

 

Bret Bielema at Wisconsin compared to Arkansas

 

Chip Kelly at Oregon compared to UCLA

Urban to Jacksonville.

18 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

What if we pay Urbs 11 million a year and he comes here and fails spectacularly? This idea that Urban will just come here and flip us around is a very optimistic take imo. He could absolutely have success here, but its also a possibility that he doesn't. 

You're telling me the thing that just happened might happen again?? I don't see it. Jacksonville is a losing program. We've got 5 national titles 

I’ll pass this along. Thanks

9 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Unban Meyer lost games at both Bowling Green and Utah. 

Doubt it. Don’t bother looking it up though

31 minutes ago, Red Five said:

 

Matt Campbell, Lance Leipold, Mark Stoops, Dave Aranda, Luke Fickell, Matt Ruhle, and Jamie Chadwell are going to lose games this year.

 

But do you know who is going to go undefeated in 2022?  Urban Meyer

Crunching the numbers.. this guy hasn’t lost a college game in four years?? Maybe we should give him a look??? 
 

just my two cents

11 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

Kinda like I did with Leipold? Had one 10-win season at Buffalo with the wins coming against teams that were a combined 42-80. Lost to Solich's Ohio team 52-17 that season, and were also blown out by Army. Don't be fooled.

 

Just like last week Klieman was a hot name... one loss to Tulane and now he sucks 

If we're defining these guys by single-game results what should we make of these? 

Clemson 31 - Ohio State 0

Iowa 55 - Ohio State 24

Purdue 49 - Ohio State 20

Maybe these don't fall on urban since some think Schiano was handling a lot of the day-to-day during his last few years.

4 minutes ago, talaricohusker said:

I don’t quite understand the hate to Duval…. He’s from the Eply coaching tree and from what I’ve heard he’s using a ton of what Eply has done so I don’t understand the hate if everyone love what Eply has done 

If what epley did was still cutting edge we wouldn't be looking for a coach

9 minutes ago, sho said:

 

Is fun the right word?  It's inconceivable to think it's fun.

After about the third one-score loss you start to find humor in the consistently unique ways misery presents itself

4 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

 

The blelow info was in the 2022 offensive line thread, which came from a Mitch Sherman article on Monday.  There have been a lot of recruiting whiffs and poor development on the offensive line.  I fail to see how this is Raiola's fault.

 

2018

Will Farniok .8581 #15 C - Transferred to Tulsa

Willie Canty .8526 #91 OT - Never made it to campus

 

2019

Bryce Benhart .9349 #13 OT - Feet turned into cinder blocks

Desmond Bland .8871 #1 OG JUCO - Never made it to campus

Michael Lynn .8614 #67 OT - Never played

Brant Banks .8613 #68 OT - Barely played

Matthew Anderson .8572 #77 OT - Transferred to Campbell

Ethan Piper .8410 #90 DT - Played as a FR and SO, can't see the field anymore

Jimmy Fritzche .8310 #146 OT - Transfer portaled to ???

 

2020

Turner Cocoran .9748 #4 OT - 8th highest ranked recruit since 2000, can't play tackle at all

Alex Conn .8647 #55 OT - Hasn't seen the field

 

2021

Teddy Prochazka .9105 #18 OT - Started as a TFr, injury prone?

Henry Lutovsky .8809 #32 G - Backup as a RFr

Branson Yager .8566 #83 OT - Left after 1 semester, whereabouts unknown

This is also a fun exercise to do with WRs

1 hour ago, suh_fan93 said:

Fwiw

 

The Athletic’s Bruce Feldman reported Kansas head coach Lance Leipold, Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell and Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien are “high” on the Cornhuskers’ list of potential targets to replace Scott Frost, who was fired Sept. 11 after a 1-2 start to the season.

Feldman is pretty reliable. Shouldn't be breaking news that there's been discussion with any of these guys.

Pretty important to note that the headline is clear in stating that there are others on the list. I'd still say plus odds the next coach is one of these three.

1 minute ago, JJ Husker said:

I’d take that deal right now. Especially if that lone remaining win kept Iowa from being bowl eligible.

5-6 going into that game is a very real possibility for them

2 minutes ago, Decoy73 said:

Based on what evidence?  Maintaining a good defensive culture?   People thought that about Will Muschamp and Texas too.  

Watch a coaching clinic, look at the stats, watch his guys on sundays. 

2 minutes ago, Decoy73 said:

My point is that Urban is a close to a sure thing that there is out there right now.   

It's not even a sure thing that he wants to be in the profession. If he wanted it and had the juice he'll take the ASU job, if not, we'll know.

It's further from a sure thing that he can coach his way through adversity since he couldn't even make it a season in the only other losing culture that's tested him. Anyone on the market that has is more a sure thing, imo.