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1 hour ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

Yeah it seems like he has done it both ways. One class of great HS recruits and then one where he killed the portal 

Yep, I heard him referred to as the king of the transfer portal second only to Riley at USC. They also claim he's working the hell out of the NIL deals (at Jackson State where they barely have running water) and that he's assembled a phenomenal staff there.

1 minute ago, JJ Husker said:

And, for the record, neon Deion is the last person that should be looked at for this job.

Why?

21 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

You also mentioned "Someone Big."  There's a really strong chance Nebraska can neither afford nor attract the splash hire. Deion is an interesting candidate who gets more play because of his famous name. He may be exactly the kind of guy we need....stealing top national recruits away from much bigger programs. But we might have to consider less famous guys who are also killing it at smaller programs. Nebraska may need to take a flier on the next Lance Leipold, but catch him coming out of Wisconsin-Whitewater rather than already having leverage as a P5 turnaround artist. 

I just think our whole image needs a big shot in the arm right now and I'm afraid the next generic long shot up and comer prospect isn't going to provide it. As bad as I hate to admit it, we aren't even an afterthought for most kids outside of Nebraska these days.

27 minutes ago, man eating mastodon said:

I'd like to see what Urban could do here, Deion hasn't been coaching long enough to take on this job,  this isn't Jackson state. 

That's definitely his only downside. I just think his, fairly extreme, upside would offset it.

7 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

So.......celebrities?

If by “celebrities” you mean great recruiters who can give our program the shot in the arm that it needs, then sure I guess.

6 minutes ago, man eating mastodon said:

Who would you like to see get the Job?

1) Urban

2) Deion

3) Someone big who hasn’t seriously been mentioned

4) Other

8 minutes ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

Ah I see that's the year before last but still very impressive what he has done down there especially with recruiting. 

Okay I was referring to 2021 as last year and 2022 as this year. In 2022, by all accounts, he worked the hell out of the transfer portal. Picked up 15 transfer players, pretty much all 3 and 4 stars. He also signed the #1 corner in the country in 2022. Dude makes it rain in the living room

24 minutes ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

I'm not seeing these numbers anywhere. Where did you get those rankings?

https://247sports.com/season/2021-football/compositeteamrankings/

17 minutes ago, Stumpy1 said:

Vodka

And arrogance and infidelity and petulance and lack of accountability and rubbing damn near everyone in and around the program wrong while he was there. They couldn’t get him out of there fast enough. Some of the stories that came out after he was gone make the ones about Frost look mild

32 minutes ago, Xmas32 said:

It's actually 6 years of solid work as a DC but hey, feel free to twist the stats to suit your narrative.  

 

You mean except for winning the Big XII and the Sugar Bowl last year right? 

 

I mean do you actually think before you type this stuff?

I was responding to what you wrote, which was citing his few good years as a DC. Should have said few rather than couple. Sorry semantic police.

And that Big 12 title last year isn’t that impressive. It was a weak year, Lincoln Riley had a foot out the door, and Baylor and tOSU actually split wins.

Don't get me wrong, I think Aranda’s a nice enough little coach. He just doesn’t excite me any more than a Campbell, Leipold, etc. They’re all fairly interchangeable and all of them make me yawn.

41 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

Deion and Nebraska are not a good fit. His flamboyant personality would clash with the conservative, vanilla, plain-Jane Nebraska culture. Polar opposites.

Yeah because that’s been working so well for us. Nebraska desperately needs Deion to change that if we ever want to be successful again. It’s 2022…we need to stop living in the past or we’ll be the next Minnesota. If we aren’t there already.

College kids pretending to be reporters. And even they are walking it back.

12 minutes ago, mwj98 said:

If MJ can change the culture and get this thing turned around this year.....he should get the nod. I can't even express enough how disappointed I am in Frost. All it will take to turn this program around is some sort of accountability with the players and staff. We were practically in every game last year. This team flat out quit. Now we are trying to salvage the season. Mentally they are drained, but if they can get some wins this could turn completely around. 

Define "get this thing turned around this year." A handful of wins against teams we're supposed to beat doesn't do enough to keep MJ on as head coach for me. Program needs a complete overhaul. We're not at a "just some paint and landscaping" remodel level, we're at a "full gut - take it to the studs" remodel level.

25 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

So, I’m one who believes fervently that this next HC - regime will be our last best hope to save Husker football from purgatory. We are standing at gate and momentum is pushing us  through.  
 

Looking at the short list of prospects M.A. shows, I wonder:  

 

Do most on this board sincerely and honestly believe strongly that any, some or all of them are capable and likely to return Big Rev to perennial top ten level by year 5?

 

Personally I’m very doubtful.  I’ve read lots of arguments for and against.  I am fairly comfortable the list includes ‘good’ coaches. But are any much better or different than Callahan, Solich, Pelini, Riley or Frost?  If so, how so?  
 

Maybe there simply is no better options, at any price?   I’m still strong Urban as the obvious first choice by a Husker mile.  But after that, it seems like a crap shoot for dozens.  I will support and hope no matter who Trev can find.  But we are betting long shots on all.  Recruiting is the most important factor in this hire. Period. Imo. 

If I could give you 1,000 +1s I would. Could not agree with this post more. Except I put Deion Sanders just below Urban and then the rest of the names are long shots. Because of the bolded part of your post.

1 hour ago, M.A. said:

I’m pretty sure this is what we’re looking at…Listed in order of likelihood.
 

Of these, Aranda, Rhule and Leipold are my preferences.

Matt Campbell 
Lance Leipold *3
Bill O’Brien
Dave Aranda *1
Matt Rhule *2
Tom Herman

If I see Tom Herman's name mentioned one more time, I swear I'm gonna lose it. He was a disaster at Texas and they couldn't run him out of there fast enough. I followed it very closely.

46 minutes ago, Stumpy1 said:

Kiffen or Bust. 

Monte? Seems kind of old.

5 minutes ago, gorp512 said:

Is this all because of that podcast?

Yes.

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Was there something else that came out?

No.

2 minutes ago, man eating mastodon said:

And I would think Husker fans would be happy with the hire if it happens.

I would be whelmed if it happened. Could work I guess, could be very meh.

All the Aranda stuff is from some college kid's podcast playing reporter. Even he walked it back after the fact...

24 minutes ago, Xmas32 said:

I'm surprised you have such a blind spot towards Aranda.  He was the DC at Wisconsin from 2013-2015 when they were pretty good (minus getting boatraced by Ohio State that won the National Title) and then he DC'd at LSU in 2019 when they were arguably the best CFB team of all time.  No kidding his numbers weren't great in 2019, they were hanging 60 on everyone and the starters were only playing half the games.  They completely smothered Georgia/OU/Clemson in the last 3 games of the year.

I have the blind spot? If a couple good years as a DC is all you have to sell me on, I don't think I'm the one with the blind spot. I live an hour and a half away from Waco and I'm surrounded by Baylor fans and media and nobody down here seems to be as high on him as a lot of Nebraska fans are. He was viewed as a pretty nice little hire...for Baylor. And he hasn't done anything since to make him any part of a hot name when it comes to coaching searches. Hell, I think most Baylor fans would trade getting Matt Rhule back for Aranda all f#&%ing day. Sorry, I'm just not seeing it. Hopefully Trev's not either.

31 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

I personally don't view those schools on that level; those coaches fall into my "currently experiencing success at another P5 school and likely won't leave" category.

Well, I hope you're wrong. We've fallen off, but we're still a blue blood program (albeit probably barely) with a ton more football emphasis and resources than those places. I'd like to think we're still viewed that way. The clock is ticking on that perception for sure, so this hire needs to be a home run or we're going to be the next Minnesota.

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As for Deion, he's probably the least likely of any candidate I've seen mentioned. 

Why? The more I look into him, he checks most all the boxes and then some. Hell, I may be higher on him than Urban right now. Well, not really, but he definitely makes up for a lot of the moral/ethical deficiencies that Urban clearly has. Dude is a winner and seems to have all the things Nebraska stands for and, probably more importantly, needs. He's out-recruiting a lot of the other names I'm seeing thrown around at Jackson freakin State. Fans don't like him because he's too "flashy" and doesn't wear overalls. Well, guess who does like that...recruits! He's an instant cleanse to the negative stigma that is part of what has us where we are.

5 minutes ago, BoSolich said:

if iowa st beats baylor today, then might as well just write the check to campbell today.

And if baylor beats iowa state, write the check to aranda today? I hope to God this coaching search comes down to much more than that.

8 hours ago, Hayseed said:

No, the point is that they didn't mind stealing someone else's coach when they hired away Briles. Aranda hasn't even been there long and has a relationship with a couple of our coaches who were at LSU. We should make him a great offer because he's the kind of coach we want. Maybe he isn't even interested but Alberts should give it a shot.

Someone sell me on Aranda. Because I'm just not seeing where all the love is coming from.

2 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

 

Yes, you're correct... but who in that category would we seriously consider? Chadwell?

Well, I guess the question becomes what is considered lower tier than Nebraska? Maybe I'm just being a homer, but Iowa State, Cincinnati, Kansas, Kentucky, and Baylor just to name a few. Certainly Jackson State.

2 hours ago, BoSolich said:

depends what other coaches get fired.

 

do we really think urban would pick us over texas or auburn?

 

i also think trev is going to be selfish and make a stable hire like campbell or arnada who will stay here long term. good luck selling tickets with those names though.

Texas? What in the world makes you think Texas will be open this year? Sark is in his 2nd year, they're 2-1 with a 1 point loss to Alabama being their only loss, and he just landed one of the best recruits in college football history. Sark ain't going anywhere this year.