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  1. 6 hours ago, El Straino said:

    Man, the Sock Puppet and Frost threads were so vastly superior to this one. Anyone spot Jim Tressel at a gas station lately? Is Neon Deion at the Warhorse? 

     

    Does this count??? :lol:

     

    14 hours ago, admo said:

    BREAKING NEWS

     

    Just heard.... per local Dallas sport radio, former Cowboy Deion Sanders has accepted the Nebraska Head Coaching job.  Taking over end of season.

     

    Don't hate the messenger.  News reported by insider.  No further details at the moment.

     

    I am skeptical as everyone, but....  

     

  2. 8 hours ago, lo country said:

    Other than his lack of FBS coaching experience, I think the guy checks every block that you'd look for in a coach.  But that's just me.

     

    Reality is no coach will check every block. Prioritize what we need and search accordingly.  If it's Jimmy and Joes, Prime would be a strong get for sure. 

     

    This really can't be emphasized enough. It's not just you, I think anyone who's being objective at all would have to acknowledge that, other than FBS experience, Deion checks all the blocks. And he adds one that none of the other candidates have...instant brand exposure and lift, which we are badly in need of today.

     

    I know on the surface a lot of people didn't think he was a "cultural fit" but, the more I see of him, I think he's a much better "cultural fit" than most thought. Old school, no-nonsense, discipline, off the field first, builder of young men, cuts his own grass, likes to hunt and fish, man of great faith, obsessive work ethic, attention to detail, and on, and on, and on. Hell, he might be the perfect "cultural fit."

     

    The more I see from him, I might just be talking myself into him being my first choice.

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  3. 7 hours ago, Cornfed said:

    I disagree. I invite anyone to watch that 60 minutes and not salivate at the thought of him at the helm. I don’t believe you can compare him to frost.. his every action is a testament to his conviction to winning. The same clearly can’t be said about Frost.

     

    Did you watch the 1:30 Overtime part of the interview? It gets even better. Here's that link too...

     

     

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  4. 8 hours ago, Cornfed said:

    I just watched the 60 minutes with Deion and I’ll say this about him.. 

     

    1. He’s a WINNER through and through. Everything about him is hardwired and conditioned for success. No way would you find him drunk at g25 after a game. 
    2. If he can get 5 star recruits to freaking Jackson St.. he can get them to come to Nebraska. 
    3. He’d be a shock hire for sure…but if we ever have a hope of getting back to the top.. we need a shock. 

     

    What's amazing to me is that interview has now been on YouTube for a few days and it has 18K likes and ZERO dislikes. I don't think I've ever seen that before. Even more amazing is reading the comments. I didn't read all 2,200 but looking at the first several pages and all are GLOWING endorsements for how great Deion is. I know I've never seen that before. Hard to believe (and a little disturbing/disheartening) there are so many people around here who are so strongly opposed to him.

     

    Here's a link for those who might have missed it...or who have been too close-minded to watch it...

     

     

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  5. 16 minutes ago, admo said:

    BREAKING NEWS

     

    Just heard.... per local Dallas sport radio, former Cowboy Deion Sanders has accepted the Nebraska Head Coaching job.  Taking over end of season.

     

    Don't hate the messenger.  News reported by insider.  No further details at the moment.

     

    I am skeptical as everyone, but....  

     

    The Ticket? Was it a ticker or just Corby f#&%ing around?

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  6. 44 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

     

    ???

     

    Speculation is all we have.

     

    If you want to compare speculation, you can Google just as easily as I can.

     

    Deion and Urban were both linked to Nebraska when Nebraska was the first team to fire its coach, along with every other possible candidate. Not so much now.

     

    If you've found compelling speculation they're both in play, I will happily read your link.  

     

    I don't have compelling speculation they're both in play and nobody has compelling speculation they're not. That's my point. Just because a couple guys on here who don't want them say "we're not hiring them so let's not even talk about them" doesn't make it true.

     

    I'll give you that Urban's name has cooled in the media in the last month, but Deion's name is still being talked about. Quick google has a handful of articles just in the last few days and as recently as today. One "writer" still has Deion in his top 7, so yeah, I'd say he's still being talked about outside of here.

  7. 5 minutes ago, desertshox said:

    well if you were actually saying coach urban prime "will likely" recruit better instead of saying he "will" recruit better. you're not using past success to say how he/she/they "will likely perform" you are using past success saying it will happen.

     

    Yes, Urban and Deion are MUCH more likely to be able to recruit FAR better than any other realistic candidate I've seen mentioned based on their past/current success. However you need me to phrase that, it's true.

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  8. 28 minutes ago, Stone Cold said:

    He would need help with the d though.  Whose he got who can lock down good defence players

     

    Besides himself (undoubtedly one of the best DB recruiters in the country), here's a look at a couple guys from his defensive staff..

     

    DC - Dennis Thurman - 8 years NFL D-Coordinator experience

    DL - Jeff Weeks - 6 years NFL D-Line experience

     

    In the context of it being Jackson State, pretty solid. I'm not familiar with all of his staff, but it's been pretty widely reported that not only is he recruiting above his weight, he's hiring above his weight, too. All due to his connections and who he is. I don't think personnel would be a problem with Deion.

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  9. 3 minutes ago, desertshox said:

     

    to the first part, most likely both sides but it is really bad for the pro-urban prime side. you cant say that high school aged kids would pick deion over someone else just based on his name alone. they may be young but they do have minds and can think. they also have people giving them advice and those people are most likely older and have more knowledge on coaches. you cant say urban prime "will" recruit better than anyone else just because of their past success.

     

    as to the second part, you've never seen the afflac commercial with the goat (the animal not the acronym)?

     

    So, now we aren't using past success as proof of how a candidate will likely perform at NU? Guess we better shut this thread down then because that's all it's been for over 300 pages.

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  10. 15 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

     

    But if you listen to the discussion both inside and outside of here, Urban and Deion really aren't top candidates for the Nebraska job. Crazier things have happened, but with new HC jobs opening up and the discussion narrowing to the more realistic chances, those two guys don't warrant a lot of speculation because they have more and better options. It's fun to throw their names out, but as time moves on it doesn't make sense to measure other candidates against them as if we have the choice. 

     

    Where are you seeing any of this from anyone who's not just speculating?

  11. 28 minutes ago, Enhance said:

    I'd like to see Deion get into the FBS and put a couple of years under his belt before he tries to coach at a place like Nebraska. There's a reason you don't usually hand a F4 driver the keys to a F1 car.

     

    Haha well, I got news for ya....our F1 car has been stuck in the garage for over a decade and Max Verstappen ain't walking through that door. Maybe Deion can be our Lewis Hamilton.

     

    Or put another way, we are currently far from F1 and Deion is several notches above F4.

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  12. 30 minutes ago, Husker in WI said:

     

    We're not exactly USC or LSU from a recruiting perspective though. We're still an attractive program with the resources and brand value, but we are the OU/ND in those scenarios - except not as good.

     

    Yeah, no I wasn't saying we're any of those schools in those scenarios. Just saying the fact that two successful coaches left blue blood programs in the same year, anything is possible these days.

  13. 19 minutes ago, Stone Cold said:

    Does Deion have that much of a ego that he would welcome the challenge.

     

    I mean, in that 60 Minutes interview on Friday, he ended the interview saying he will win at everything he does, in every facet of life. But not just win, dominate.

     

    Whether that's true or not is certainly TBD, although he's got a pretty good record of it so far throughout his life.

     

    Some may see it as ego. I see it as a winner's mentality which is something we could use at NU.

  14. 1 minute ago, TonkaSker said:

     

    Tend to agree qualitatively, but here are a few things we could offer Lane:

     

    - Stability (Lane can afford a 6-6 year here but it's hard to say he could afford it at UM)

    - Money ($9mm isn't outside the realm of possibility, and we can offer longer than the terms legally allowed by the state of Miss (4 year cap)

    - Assistant Pool (Our financial forecasting can be far more aggressive with B10 money projected)

    - NIL Base 

    - Fan Support/Fundraising (coaches hate getting involved in this stuff, less pressure to do so at NU)

    - Easier schedule (you'll never get an easier conference stretch in the SEC than Indiana/@Illinois/Northwestern/@Penn State/Minnesota/UCLA/Iowa)

     

    His path to the 12 team playoff at Ole Miss means getting through 5 of Kentucky/LSU/A&M/Alabama/Auburn/Oklahoma/Texas/Mississippi State in an average year, for less money. It makes more sense than people give it credit.

     

    Yeah, after Riley left OU and Kelly left ND, I really don't think anything's off the table.

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  15. 3 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

    Even though it might be the injection of revitalization that we need, I just don't see us hiring any of these flashy, big-name guys (Meyer, Deion, Kiffin, etc.) who would go against our traditional, blue-collar, hard-working culture. 

     

    How's that been working for us?

  16. 33 minutes ago, desertshox said:

    It is the manner the two are discussed that put people off. Very little objectivity and often dismissive when an opposing viewpoint is brought up. Too many definitives used when discussing them as well.

     

    "Very little objectivity, often dismissive, and too many definitives" from which side? Those opposing or those for? I've admitted Urban has ethics question marks and Deion has lack of P5 coaching question marks. Everything outside of that has been fairly objective from those for hiring them.

     

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    And if trev were to hire coach prime, he better bring the goat because the defense needs gap coverage.

     

    Deion is the Goat when it comes to corners. Who are you hoping he brings with him?

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