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I wonder what would happened if we had gotten kicked out of the AAU before the Big 10 invite.

I wonder if 

1. We would have gotten the Big 10 invite

2. If we don't get the Big 10 invite (with Missouri probably getting the invite instead), would the Big 12 have managed to stay together to this very day, minus just Missouri and Colorado. (And possibly just minus Colorado if Rutgers got the BIG invite rather than Missouri.) I can't help but suspect that Nebraska's exit made a long term impact on the Big 12's prestige and income that permanently de-stablized the conference, and helped lead to aTm's exit the following year and Texas and OU's exit many years later.

Of course, there's also the worst case scenario for Nebraska, which is that Texas, OU and aTm end up leaving anyway, and we get stuck in some husk of a conference that invites teams like UCF and Cinncinatti.

Had anybody on here seriously heard of the AAU before we got kicked out of it something like 9 months after the Big 10 invite?

Heck, even now, has anybody except for Nebraska fans (and academic professionals) heard of the AAU?

On 1/15/2024 at 11:56 AM, Head Coach Scott Frost said:

I can't believe Iowa played 14 games and was 10-1 in games they scored points

It seems like a statistic of a 1920s team.

I will be surprised if Scott Frost even gets a Group of 5 head coaching job again, and I assign him a 0% chance of getting a Power 5 head coaching job.

33 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

C’mon, try to have a little faith that Rhule might be the guy finally.

Well, with all due respect, we’ve been trying to have faith in our coaches for 25 years, and it’s never worked. We’ll see what happens with the rest of Rhule’s tenure, but I will say that the first year being the predecessor’s fault is a story I’ve heard farrrr too often. 

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

 

Or 7th

Scott Frost was the 5th coach after Osborne. Regardless of how much leeway the 2nd-4th coach after a legend gets, he pretty much proves that there are zero standards whatsoever if you’re the 5th coach after a legend. 
 

I mean, he got (part of) a 5th year after having posted losing records each of his first 4 years and going 15-29. That’s a farrr lower standard than Bill Callahan or even Bo Pelini world have been held to. 

1 hour ago, Mavric said:

 

Derek Dooley, who's considered to probably be the worst SEC coach this entire millenium? Lol, that would be unbelievably epic. I can't believe they're listing his name on there.

I also had to look up who the hell Pat Schurmur is. Apparently he's the co-OC for a Colorado team that just dumped the previous year's roster and still went 4-8. Jesus Christ, they're listing him as a possibility for Alabama head coach? I find it mind blowing enough that they're even listing Deion Sanders on there.

And Billy Napier, who's on a smoking hot seat after 2 losing seasons at UF and is derogatorily known as Sun Belt Billy? Lol.

I've always found it inexplicable enough that Nebraska promoted a RB coach to the head job when Nebraska was at the top of CFB and coaches presumably would have lined up for miles begging for the Nebraska job.  Alabama hiring some of the guys on this list when they're at the top of CFB would top even that.

1 minute ago, Head Coach Scott Frost said:

I hope Bama takes Sark and Texas sucks again

You're assuming that Texas won't fall back to, well, 7 wins in their future years under 7-win Sark.

Dude's a lifelong 7-6 coach who had one outlier year. He'll be back to going 7-6 soon. Don't worry.

9 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

Need a splash hire.  Probably Gruden or Urban.

 

If next guy brings his buddies instead of the best it’s over.

Suggesting Jon Gruden as a candidate for every job in both CFB and the NFL? Jesus Christ, are you stuck in 2015 or something? 

Gruden is now completely unemployable because he sent racist texts. The biggest single offense you can possibly commit in today's society.

I don't think that Gruden is that  good of a coach anyway. But his texts were what ruined his career, not the fact that he's a mediocre and overrated coach. 

2 minutes ago, whateveritis1224 said:

Was he mediocre? Or were those teams bad and he pulled them up?

 

One benefit for Nebraska going 5-7 in year one is that he's far enough down the ladder of being wanted and that Rhule has only been here for a year and any programs equivalent that might get their coaches poached are probably not going to have the resources NU has in place to pull him from the school (crossing fingers).

Saban first 4 years at Michigan State were 25-22-1. Everybody would want a Nebraska coach with that kind of record to be fired. He got the LSU job based solely on his last year, which was 10-2.

I'm sure he improved as a coach as he became more experienced over time. 

Not really applicable to Rhule because 1. Rhule has already been a head coach three times  before and should be well past his learning curve 2. Nebraska has much higher coaching standards than Michigan State.

13 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Saban's losses to Osborne were by scores of 50-10 and 55-14. Lol.

But  Saban was actually pretty mediocre at Michigan State, which few people seem to remember. It wasn't until LSU that he became a good coach, and Alabama that he became great.

Yes, Nebraska is still a blue blood. But, admittedly, the 7 year bowl-less streak is a worse period of ineptitude than almost any other blue blood program has ever had. The bad periods for other blue blood programs are usually periods where they win about 55-60% of their games. 

Well, actually, Nebraska had a longer and similarly bad period of ineptitude from 1941-1961. But Nebraska's history from 1890-1940 and from 1962-2001 was probably the very best in college football. Even 2002-2016 was just a fairly typical "down" period for a blue blood- it wasn't until the 2017 that we began a basically unheard of period of awfulness.

1 hour ago, gossamorharpy said:

Wow. End of the greatest coaching era in college football history.  

 

Cant wait to see the sharp decline of Bama.  I wonder if Big8conferenceforever is gonna question their status as a blue blood in a few years when theyre not in the playoffs anymore

It might take until year 5 for Alabama to totally crash, if Frank Solich is any indication. 

And of course the fans of the other SEC schools would keep questioning why Alabama's Frank Solich equivalent got fired, and would even make the really embarrassing move of electing that coach to the CFB Hall of Fame about 20 years later. 

Oh, God. A typical loser thread with a loser attitude.

All that matters is that we're 5-6 while in a s#!tty division. We also did not play eitherWho f#&%ing cares about what his pressers sound like? My God, I doubt there's any coach in college football that doesn't give good sounding pressers.

The OP probably congratulated Scott Frost for having nice pressers, too.

On 11/12/2023 at 8:32 PM, LennynSquiggy said:

I strenuously disagree with this statement on both accounts. 

 

Solich was handed a Maserati and turned it into a Chevy van. He also broke a 40ish year winning record streak which is unforgivable imo.

 

Pelini had multiple embarrassing blowout losses almost every year and practically dared the athletic department to fire him while talking crap about the fans and athletic department to the team. (Audio tapes anyone?)

Yeah, exactly.

Solich also broke a similarly long streak of 9 win seasons. He should have been fired a year earlier than he was.

I'm pretty sure there was talk about a potential 7 way tie in either the BIG West or ACC Coastal (I forget which) some previous season. This doesn't seem like the first time I've heard of a 7 way tie possibility.

Yeah, it's fun to think about, but it's not going to happen.

47 minutes ago, DrinkinwitTerrellFarley said:

This subject is beating a dead horse.  I was hoping it would be gone for good.  A Nebraska return to the Big XII is never happening. Those days have come and gone and lots of teams have moved on since then.  The only thing the Big XII has over the Big Ten is more road games to drive to. That's it.  The Big Ten is superior in every other category or metric you want to use.  In fact, if the choice for some reason in a hypothetical where the Big Ten wasn't available and  Nebraska is asked to join the SEC or the Big XII I would choose the SEC.  Big XII is old news like Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather.

And the Big 12 isn't even as good of a geographic fit now as it was in the oughts. They now have teams in West Virginia and Florida, and they'll be having schools in Arizona next year.

Is this some kind of joke?

Actually, the old Big 12, with Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri and Texas A&M and without teams like Cincinnati, UCF or Houston, is my ideal conference for Nebraska, and a league I'll always have nostalgia for. 

But regardless of whose fault it is (most people blame Texas, whether correctly or not), that league is now gone. Why would we want to go to the current Big 12?

On 11/7/2023 at 9:18 AM, Red Five said:

 

After week 10.  Not a lot of movement (which probably is to be expected this time of year).  The computers like Wisconsin and I don't get it.

 

Nebraska #54 in SP+ / #60 in FPI

 

Minnesota #51 / #54
Colorado #80 / #71
N. Illinois #99 / #96
Louisiana Tech #105 / #114
Michigan #1 / #2
Illinois #63 / #66
North­western #89 / #80
Purdue #88 / #73
Michigan St #72  / #78

Maryland #37 / #40
Wisconsin #28 / #33
Iowa #33 / #41

Can you provide a link to view SP+ without an espn.com subscription? Maybe post it on the waybackmachine? I miss when it was free on footballoutsiders lol.

3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I’ll donate $10k to 1890 if this happens

 

 

That would be such a fitting end to the division if it happens.

If they were so great, then why did Solich end up as a MAC coach after being fire, and why did Pelini end up as an FCS coach? Interesting how everybody complained about us firing Solich and Pelini, but no power conference team (and no FBS team in Pelini's case) hired them themselves.

Also, why did they go 115-82 and 33-28 against the lousy competition at their new jobs if they were so great? Wouldn't just about any Power 5 level (let alone Nebraska level) coach beat just about everybody while coaching at those lower levels?