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    Xbox One

    in Tech Central - Computers, Games, Phones, A/V, etc.

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    I blame the backlash from the community. If we would've taken more time to think about the pros the combination once a day Internet connection and the DRM instead of just blasting on the cons (some of which are misguided), perhaps this could've led to a better gaming future for the consumer. The article GSG posted from Gizmodo points this out.

     

    Sony took advantage of the people's misconceptions of how DRM works, and it worked. But in the long run, we (the community) will come out on the losing end, again. They forced Microsoft to abandon their vision, and that sucks.

     

    Very good points. I agree. On the bright side, it seems the One will still be capable of everything they were trying to do anyway since the thing was based on that architecture. I still believe it will happen eventually.

     

    What I think is funny, is all of the people that are giving MS sh#t for reverting all of the policies everyone was pissed about in the first place. Like it's even worse that they changed their policy to accommodate the players. eyeswear2allthatsholy

    Xbox One

    in Tech Central - Computers, Games, Phones, A/V, etc.

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    Just in case.

     

    Get out your salt shakers but an anonymous engineer on the Xbox One team has taken to Pastebin to help clear up a few misunderstandings about Xbox One's DRM. In short, Microsoft wanted to bring the concept of Steam to the Xbox.

     

    The DRM around the Xbox One has certainly caused a bit of controversy since its announcement but if the Pastebin post is to be believed, Microsoft actually has gamers' best interests at heart. The post talks about Steam's beginnings and how many didn't actually like the service at first, adding that it wasn't until Steam started offering insane deals on games that consumers adopted the platform.

     

    Microsoft is apparently trying to bring that same model to the console with the Xbox One that is dramatically different to what the consumer is accustomed too. It's a lofty bet, but one that Microsoft is willing to take to help spur on digital distribution of console games. Posted below is the entire post:

    >The thing is we suck at telling the story. The whole point of the DRM switch from disc based to cloud based is to kill disc swapping, scratched discs, bringing discs to friends house, trade-ins for sh#t value with nothign going back to developers, and high game costs. If you want games cheaper then 59.99, you have to limit used games somehow. Steam's model requires a limited used game model.

     

     

    >The thing is, the DRM is really really similar to steam... You can login anywhere and play your games, anyone in your house can play with the family xbox. The only diff is steam you have to sign in before playing, and Xbox does it automatically at night for you (once per 24 hours)

     

    >It's a long tail strategy, just like steam. Steam had it's growing pains at the beginning with all it's drm sh#t as well. [...] For digital downloads steam had no real competition at the time, they were competing against boxed sales. At the time people were pretty irate about steam, (on 4chan too...) It was only once they had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent sharing that they could do super discounted sh#t.

     

    >Think about it, on steam you get a game for the true cost of the game, 5$-30$. On a console you have to pay for that PLUS any additional licenses for when you sell / trade / borrow / etc. If the developer / publisher can't get it on additional licenses (like steam), then they charge the first person more. [...] If we say "Hey publishers, you limit game to 39.99, we ensure every license transfer you get 10$, gamestop gets 20$" that is a decent model... Microsoft gets a license fee on first and subsequent game purchases, compared to just first now? That's a revenue increase.

     

    >Competition is the best man, it helps drive both to new heights. See technology from the Cold War. If we had no USSR, we'd be way worse off today. TLDR: Bring it on Steam
    :)

     

    2/4

     

    >Yeah we passed that around the office at Xbox. Most of us were like "Well played Sony, Well played". That being said they are just riding the hype train of ZOMG THEY ARE TRYING TO f#*k US FOR NO REASON. Without actually thinking about how convienent it would be for the majority of the time to not find that disc your brother didn't put back... [...] just simpleminded people not seeing the bigger picture. Some PS4 viral team made them all "U TOOK R DISCS" and they hiveminded.

     

    >Everyone and their mother complains about how gamestop fu#*$ them on their trade ins, getting 5$ for their used games. We come in trying to find a way to take money out of gamestop, and put some in developers and get you possibly cheaper games and everyone bitches at MS. Well, if you want the @#$@ing from Gamestop, go play PS4.

     

    >The goal is to move to digital downloads, but Gamestop, Walmart, Target, Amazon are KIND OF f'ing ENTRENCHED in the industry. They have a lot of power, and the shift has to be gradual. Long term goal is steam for consoles. [...] If you always want to stay with what you have, then keep current consoles, or a PS4. We're TRYING to move the industry forwards towards digital distribution... it'sa bumpy road

     

    >Publishers have enourmous power. Microsoft is trying to balance between consumer delight, and publisher wishes. If we cave to far in either direction you have a non-starting product. WiiU goes too far to consumer, you have no 3rd party support to shake a stick at. PS4 is status-quo. XB1 is trying to push some things, at the expense of others. We have a vision, we'll see if it works in the coming years

     

    >Living room transformation. We want to own the living room. Every living room TV with an XBox on input one. It's the thing that gives the signal to your TV, everything is secondary. The future, where games, TV, internet telephony, all that sh#t happens magically on some huge ass screen with hand / voice gestures... That's our goal.

     

     

    3/4

     

    >Google TV + PS4 + Minority report level gestures, that combined with a sick second screen experience (which is really hot for TV, I know I know.. tv tv tv tv tv... but it's f'ing sick when you have it). Games will be the same, there are more exclusives to MS then PS atm, and Kinect 2 makes Kinect 1 look like a childs toy.

     

    >By default it's on, listening for "Xbox On". You can turn it off tho, and turn the console like OFF off. OFF off is required for Germany / other countries that require it (no vampire appliances) [...] It has to be plugged in for the console to post. You can turn off everything it does from the settings. Think of it like airplane mode for the iPhone. You can't just unplug the cellular radio, but you can turn it off.

     

    >Instead of 10mins, is 24hrs for your console, and 1 or 2 at a friends house. Really the majority of people have a speck of internet at least once a day. And if you don't. Don't buy an Xbox 1. Just like if you didn't have a broadband connection don't get Live, and if you don't have an HDTV the 360 isn't that great for you either. New tech, new req. This allows us to do cool sh#t when we can assume things like you have a kinect, you have internet, etc.

     

    >Current plan is basically you're f'd after 24 hours. Yeah... I know. Kind of sucks. I believe they will probably revist the time period and / or find a diff way to "call in" to ensure you haven't sold your license to gamestop or something... but there is no plan YET. I'm hoping the change it, but I don't work on that so I don't have much influence there /sigh

     

    >If the power goes out you ain't playing sh#t. I'm assuming you mean the internet goes out but you have power for TV and Xbox. Yes, You're f'd for single player games. Again, that's the PoR (Plan of record), but I expect it to change after the e3 clusterf#@k

     

    >What fee? There is no fee to play your games at your friends house. Never has, never will. Even x360 digital downloads could do that.

     

     

    4/4

     

    >The cloud capabilities is the sh#t they like the most. We basically made a huge cloud compute sh#t and made it free. What people are doing with it is kind of cool. THe original intention was to get all the Multiplayer servers not requiring 3rd party costs (Like EA shutting down game servers to cut costs), as well as taking all the games that servers hosted by the clients (Halo, etc), and have all that compute done in the cloud allowing more CPU cycles for gameplay. That will really expand what developers can do. Anything that doesn't need per frame calculation and can handle 100ms delays can be shifted to the cloud. That's huge.

     

    >SmartGlass + IE is going to be pretty freaking sweet. 1 finger cursor, 2 finger direct manip. Basically if you think of a laptop trackpad where your phone/ slate is the trackpad and the monitor is your TV... it's that. The tech is there, just needs to be applied. There is some really cool sh#t going on with Petra + controllers that pairs people with controllers. So if person with controller two trades controlers with controller 1, their profiles magically switch. It's sick. What does this matter? Now if you lean left/right it knows which person is leaning, even if 4 people are all int he same room. It's awesome.

     

    >New service using Azure for cloud compute. Allows developers to not use clients for hosting multiplayer servers, or other tasks that do not require per frame calcuations. It's pretty sweet.

     

    >Honestly, if you care about anything other then pure games AT ALL. Xbox 1 > PS4. If all you do is play games, and nothing else, PS4.

     

    This was all from the Microsoft engineer that was on /b/ last night.

     

    >It's not worth my time to prove it, or risk my Job. I work in Studio A, 40th ave in Redmond, Wa. The thai place in the studio cafeteria has double punch wednesdays. Go ahead and call them and verify if you want.

    Playstation 4 incoming!

    in Tech Central - Computers, Games, Phones, A/V, etc.

    Posted

    I've been an Xbox user since the first one came out and had a 360 after that. This time around I was really hoping Sony would knock it out of the park so I could get a PS4. Most of MS policies rubbed me the wrong way...until I really thought about it.

     

    1. Always Online: I have a bonified badass gaming PC. Always online has never been a negative in that respect. Imo, as these systems evolve, almost all games will eventually go this route. Not to mention you're going to need a steady connection for ANY type of multiplayer...and Destiny. Whoa momma!

     

    2. Used Games: I haven't bought a used game in years and never sell my games. (You can't do this with steam or PC anyway) As far lending goes? At least I won't have to worry about my cheap ass, dead beat friends borrowing my sh#t and then hunting it back down a year later.

     

    3. Worried about the Kinect spying on you? Don't do blow and bang hookers in front of the console.

     

    One last thing: Disc based games are going the way of the dodo. I haven't bought a physical copy of a PC game in about 5 years. Even the 'big' ones come as downloads that are usually cheaper than the physical copy anyway, and you never have to worry about it getting scratched or lost. So when Sony throws up this picture, and it says 'disc based games' at the bottom, they're actually saying the same thing MS has been saying. "It's the publishers decision."

     

    Just my 2 cents.

     

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    Bands that should not have been as big as they are or were

    in Big Red Lounge: Official BS Forum

    Posted

    ALL Pop Country. You have to be a complete moron to not understand a country song written in the last 30 years. How many damn songs do I have to hear about tractors, trucks and Jesus. Really inspiring and artistic...

     

    Another thing, it seems you can't make a P-Country record these days without ripping off someone else's work. Old Crow Medicine Show did Bob Dylan's, Mama, Rock me, (Wagon Wheel) 10 years ago, and did it well. Now I have to hear this Wal*Mart p.o.s. version every 15 minutes on the radio.

    Will Tim Beck be smart enough to know that Georgia.....

    in Husker Football

    Posted

    But it's so simple. All Beck has to do is divine from what he knows of Georgia: are they the sort of team who would put the focus into it's own weakness or strengths? Now, a clever team would put the focus into his own weakness, because they would know that only a great fool would attack whats proven to be a strength. Beck is not a great fool, so he can clearly not choose to attack the other teams strength. But Georgia must have known Beck was not a great fool, they would have counted on it, so Beck can clearly not attack Georgias weakness on D.....

     

    Inconceivable!!

    Week 14 Predictions

    in Husker Football

    Posted

    Nebraska vs Wisconsin-

    Louisville vs Rutgers-

    Northern Illinois vs Kent State-

    UCLA vs Stanford-

    Oklahoma vs TCU-

    Oklahoma State vs Baylor-

    UCF vs Tulsa-

    Nicholls State vs Oregon State-

    Kansas vs West Virginia-

    Boise State vs Nevada-

    Texas vs Kansas State-

    Florida State vs Georgia Tech-

    Alabama vs Georgia-

    Trolling Wisky board

    in Husker Football

    Posted

    I went to a wisky board bc I wanted to see what they were saying about the 4th down play. Did you see on the replay that it looked like Ball didn't think he was supposed to get the carry?

     

    Also, lots of insanity- people that think they still can win the BIG, complaining about the refs, headhunting coaches. A lot of what they said was weird and crazy to me/ Is that what we look like to outsiders?

     

    +1 for the Sig.

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