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Because they didn't believe they could win and all the burden was on the defense because Frost and staff couldn't figure out how to move the ball under they got in the Delorean and went back to 1997 

I'm just wondering about the psychological toll last night's game took on the Huskers. Northwestern is a smart, tough team and Nebraska still does not have a placekicker which is critical in games like this. 

Last night, I was concerned for the players safety. They were punching way above their weight class, literally and figuratively.

The only time Nebraska made any progress was when they ran the 90's offense, but I'm sure we won't see that again.

Martinez has some good tools, but he had no poise, no help from the game plan, and from the offensive line. 

The only thing is why not try Vedral, and hope he gives the offense a spark.

It's because Frost is too scared Martinez will enter the transfer portal. My fear is AM is too traumatized and will look elsewhere. 

I will say this...McKenzie Milton will be available as a graduate transfer. UCF may be good with that since he'll be a senior and they'll probably have a new qb ready to roll in 2020. 

1 minute ago, walksalone said:

 

I am going to respectfully disagree.

 

What kind of talent did you expect him to get with two recruiting classes?  This isn't NCAA13 where you're just going to get all the 5 star recruits you want.

He's an offensive guru and the only playmakers I see is Wandale and the other one is on trial for felony child porn charges. 

1 minute ago, walksalone said:

 

Exactly....

 

There's such a small sample size of SF's work here, there's no real way to grade him on his performance

Hopefully he'll realize that you need a backup placekicker. For 4.5 million, I expected more and expected more playmakers for recruiting. Maybe he should have spent his December of 2017 recruiting instead of coaching his former team. 

22 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

And yet still won 9 games.

 

Remind me how many seasons out of the last 18 are better than Bo's worst season here.

Bo never mailed anything in. The last game he beat Iowa, which was the last time Nebraska beat Iowa and probably will be for quite a while.  

Just now, walksalone said:

 

And how many of those great defensive squads were wasted on the fact that Bo had a couple of utterly and complete morons running the offense... 

Sometimes the offense bailed out the defense. He's the best Nebraska coach post-Tom Osborne. 

2 minutes ago, OH HSKR FAN said:

 A lot of those aforementioned wins were against watered down versions of those teams.

  

 

Nebraska was a lot closer to those programs five and ten years ago then today. Much closer. 

There is no Bo Pelini curse. It really started with losing Texas at home in 2006. Next year it was getting crushed by USC.

15 years of "Nebraska is back"  talk.  At some point, you are what you are.

And really, Nebraska hasn't had a big win since getting crushed at Colorado in 2001.

The media is part of the problem.  

Calling Johnny Stanton "Nebraska's Johnny Football" is part of the damn problem. We put players and coaches on pedestals they haven't earned. We drink this damn Koolaid summer after summer. 

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32 minutes ago, OH HSKR FAN said:

Bo got a lot of breaks.  A generational player in Suh, a Hail Mary, week schedules, opponents in transition, etc.

 

His tenure looks a lot different and possibly shorter otherwise.

Bo beat Clemson Dabo, Colorado, Oklahoma, Missouri, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State (on the reg). 

It will be a longgggg time before Nebraska beats Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.

I think we are fine with rebuild, but the team we played has a first year head coach that's 2-0, and our coach went 0-6 and now is 1-1 in his second year. Further, our team doesn't look any different today than the past 4 years (Mike Riley Era). 

What also concerns me is the hubris from Scott Frost, trash-talking from our players (yes, we talked the most trash during the week), and the lack of conditioning and leadership. We also are a bunch of whiners. We whined for 365 about what a CU player did to a Nebraska player. We whined and tattled to the Big Ten and the Pac 12. When did the Big Red become Big Victims?  
 

I remember laughing at Chad May as a teenager when he whined and complained about Nebraska being a dirty team. The reason he was complaining was because KSU lost! Now we are doing the same thing. We used that injury as an excuse and it let the players off the hook.

It's all a bunch of Big Red Koolaid. Our talent is also depleted than what it was just 4 years ago. Our talent may actually be worse than last year. 

Scott Frost brought his entire coaching staff from UCF. He should be thinking that maybe what worked at UCF isn't going to work here. I think some coaches should be on the hotseat. Not during the season, but changes should happen at the end of the season.

The other problem we are at the mercy of Adrian Martinez. They have to start him, because deep down, they fear if they bench him, he would transfer. The number one job of a quarterback is not to run, but to pass the football with accuracy and consistency. We have no vertical threat - and that's not all on AM. We lack size and separation at the wide receiver position. Additionally,  we miss Kade Warner. But the lack of the passing threat is hurting our running game. 

I can't help but look over to the CU sideline and see a team that went 5-7 last year, and see the first year head coach changing the culture immediately. That's what we thought Scott Frost would do. 

6 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

He hasn't distanced himself from the team. 

 

Chinander SHOULD be thrown under the bus. That was literally the worst defensive meltdown I've ever seen, not just from the Huskers, but ANY game. How do you not bracket Nagle with 2 defenders? How do you not teach your corners to turn their effing heads around to look for the ball? They should literally spend all practice doing that, because every team we have played has taken advantage of our poor technique. 

 

At the time, getting Vedral didn't look like it was going to happen. Not anyone's fault. 

 

There was nothing wrong with what Frost did after Pickering missed the pat. You're splitting hairs there. 

He should have said in his press conference that this loss was also on the coaching. 

You throw your defensive coordinator under the bus, what message does that send to the players? Should the players listen to the d coordinator?

AFTER the Colorado game. That's a proven fact.

Not a good look. 

1 minute ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

At least half of what you said isn't true or is based off of ignorance or bad interpretation, and I told you it's not worth addressing each part.

Below are 2 of them. They asked for a waiver months and months ago, before the spring game. And you are completely misunderstanding easy to understand comments by Frost. He stays away from kickers because he doesn't want to mess with their mojo and he doesn't know much about kicking. He clearly thinks there is a lot of psychology involved when it comes to PK, which a lot of people would agree with.

 

Thanks for getting into detail.

Why did it take Noah Vedral until yesterday to be cleared? Well, they got turned down in early August, and didn't try again until AFTER the Colorado game. Sorry for bringing facts into the equation, but that tells me two things:

1)They were ignorant in TG being a flight risk

2)Nebarska deserved an earlier ruling, but why wait until AFTER the Colorado game?!?!

Also, the HEAD COACH is not a coordinator. They are responsible for every aspect of the game. The kicking game is of the utmost importance. I take his "I stay away from kickers" as a lack of interest in kickers. Caleb L. himself probably cost Big Red one game. Pickering was a scholly kicker and his flakiness has cost Nebraska at least two games.  I agree on psychology of the kickers, but the head coach shouldn't treat kickers as mercenaries and embarrass the kid on TV.  If kicking is psychology, what does NOT kicking it in OT send and what does your coach doing a face rub on national TV after a missed PAT send???? 

I thought SF was all about love and trust?!?!?

That being said, I"m his biggest friend. He just needs to grow into the role. And he needs a win bad. 

16 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

You're wrong about so much here it's not even worth addressing each thing.

Some don't like hard truths. 

14 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

You're wrong about so much here it's not even worth addressing each thing.

Where am I wrong? 

20 minutes ago, Bigred_inSD said:

Lots of awful takes here.  We should shut the board down 

Feel free to get into specifics, pal.

Couple of things. 
 

-Scott Frost should stop distancing himself from this team. He should have taken some responsibility for the loss. He also threw his d coordinator under the bus

-Scott Frost and Co. came to Nebraska with hubris and arrogance. Frost still acts detached from this team, but asks for their trust. See the disconnect.

-Why did it take until AFTER the Colorado game for Nebraska to ask for a waiver for Noah Vedral. I thought Bill Moos was this great administrator

-Stop blaming the refs. The refs ain't the reason we are 0-6.

- Noah Vedral should redshirt this year, but I'd like to see him get some playing time this year.

-I don't get why Wyatt Mazour doesn't get any carries. Like none.

-These seniors have been through so many coaching changes. They've deserved better. 

-I'm glad the Huskers benched Caleb L., but what does Pickering have to do to lose his job? Does he have compromising photos of Frost?!?!

-Frost doing the theatrics and doing the face rub after Pickering missed the PAT may have resonated with Joe SixPack, but it's embarrassing for a coach to hang a player out to dry. I get it, but his demeanor was one of a fan, not of a coach.

-Frost almost bragged in press conferences about how much he didn't like kickers, nor he didn't pay attention them. The kicking game has cost Nebraska at least two games this year.

-Overall, I thought the team looked better and improved.

-Noah Vedral was a like a 2nd QB coach. He knows the offense and was supportive of AM. He's a team player. 

-It's no secret but the natives of Nebraska overachieve and play harder.   

Not going to eat Frost alive over 4th down calls. No balls, no babies. But I don't know why the QB sneak isn't deployed more.

Keep the faith. GBR.

On 9/22/2018 at 1:40 PM, HuskerNation1 said:

Given his first season has been a bust so far and his team looks worse than any Husker team I have ever seen in my lifetime, where does he go for the remainder of the season.  A few things I would consider:

 

1.  Does he switch schemes while trying to adapt the offensive and defensive approaches to BIG football. His comment during his announcement interview that other teams would be adapting to his style of play does not cut it as his schemes are not working.  I think he needs to find something that can work so the young players can gain some level of confidence.

  

2.  Does he bench most of the upperclassmen and allow the youngsters to get a lot of PT in preparation for 2019?  I say yes.

 

 3.  For those on the team that are "cancers" and bringing the other guys down, does he dismiss them from the team?  I would hope so.

  

What other things should be done since we have truly hit rock bottom as a program?

 

 

Look, growing up watching the Huskers as a teenager in the 90's, any loss would ruin my fall, let alone my Saturday.

Right now, Frost and the program need a win badly. 

I can tell you Paul Chryst would rather go up against his buddy Mikey Riley than Scott Frost. While Wisconsin is big and powerful, Nebraska's passing game and mobile QB can and will give Wisconsin fits in the future. The game needs to slow down for Adrian Martinez. While his stats were gaudy, he missed some opportunities that were learning experiences. If he can grow and capitalize on them, watch out. 

I think Frost's scheme offensive scheme of speedy WR,  running game, and a mobile/accurate QB could give Big Ten West opponents fits. We need to trust the process and allow Frost the time to develop his offense. Last night, I saw progress and a path forward for success vs. Wisconsin.

The talent, size, and development gap between Nebraska and Wisconsin on the front lines can't be made up in one recruiting class, nor one offseason of a new strength and conditioning.

The program was really at rock bottom this time last year. The program needs to get that first win and break that streak. The players don't know how to win, don't believe they can win, and are frustrated as hell. But if they keep pushing, they will get there, and hopefully before Bethune Cookman.

The Huskers are laying the foundation right now and it's starting with the basement. Basements aren't pretty, but no sense filling up the basement to put a mobile home over it. 

Build it right.

It sounds strange, but I liked what I saw last night. 

-The defense had a tremendous burdon and they gave the offense every chance to make it a game in the first half. 

-It doesn't help after a 7 minute first quarter drive, Nebraska had a 1st down, then penalty, 2nd down, 3rd down, punt. Back on the field. 

-I think the defense played overall gutty. You can complain about individuals, but I saw a team that fought hard against a great Wisconsin offensive line. 

-I can't wait to see the look on Scott Frost's face when he sees the Paul Chryst "FU MFers". I think Chryst was offended that Frost went for it on 4th and 11. Like Frost didn't respect his defense, which he might not. 

-Paul Chryst is probably mad that Nebraska fired his friend Mike Riley, since he knew Riley better than Riley knew himself

-As strange as it sounds, I'm much less pissed off after this game than after the 2017 game 

-Nebraska should have went for two in the 4th, but I think even Frost knew a win was a longshot. But still...

-The dam breaking on J. Taylor was as predictable as it was long. At some point, fatigue, mental and physical, was going to set in

-Nebraska is going to have to break the 30-point barrier to win this year

-The Huskers have seven games left. Right now, we need a win like no other. That being said, a 4-3 (Bethune, Illinois, Minn, Northwestern should be...pardon the expression, winnable/competitive. Ending to the season with a winning record(and an improvement over 2017) would give me great optimism for 2019. I think it's doable.

-Adrian Martinez looked 100% healthy for the first time since Colorado. Overall, I thought he played ok. The stats are a bit misleading. But if the game starts to slow down, watch out...Last nights game should boost his confidence

-No use complaining about the refs until Nebraska gets more competitive and cuts back on the dumb penalties that put Nebraska in 1st and 20 in the first quarter on the road vs Wisconsin. When your the most penalized team in the nation, refs are more apt to 'find' penalties (aka Foster's 'block in the back'). 

-About time Caleb Lighthorne got benched. I'm sure there are better punters enrolled at UNL who are not on the football team who are more effective then him

-The power of the bench is the one power Frost needs to use and use more of. Maybe he was waiting until after 4 or 5 games to use it. 

-Brett Pickering looks to be on the right track. 

-Saw too many low snaps to Martinez. 

-Never thought I'd say this, but I miss Matt Millen. Get well soon. 

-For the first time since joining the Big Ten, I see a schematic path to toppling Wisconsin. I don't think Wisconsin's secondary can match up with a speedy wide receivers, high tempo offense, and a mobile/accurate QB. 

-I don't know if it was smart of Frost to go for it on 4th and 11 at the end of the first half, but I think he's trying to send a larger message and lay a foundation a la Frank Reich going for the win against the Texans a few weeks back and Doug Pederson for the Eagles in 2016.

-I could care less about any 'records' broken on a 0-5 team. 

I think this team is closer now that some players are gone. I think this team is better now they are gone. 

I know people talk about swagger and getting into people's faces. Right now, the offense doesn't trust the defense, the defense doesn't trust the offense, and no one likes the special teams.  The team, especially going against Wisky and Michigan, went in expecting to lose.  That's why they are congratulating each other for good plays even when Nebraska is down 2 or 3 scores. Players are doing what they can do. They practice and train hard, but don't see a path to victory. 

If this team starts to smell victory or gets a taste of it, that may all change. 

Right now, we need a W bad.  

Keep the faith. GBR. 

 One of the issues with Mike Riley is he was a 62-year old coach. When you hire a 62-year old football coach, you are screaming "win now!"

Frost is 43 and has time to adjust and build this thing the right way.

Another thing, Bo did not leave the 'cupboard bare.' That 2015 team had 6 losses by a touchdown or less. Many were due to game mismanagement way beyond anything Frost and Co have done. The 2016 team was ranked in the top ten in late October before a close loss to Wisconsin. Those teams could have put Bo over the top, if Bo could only get out of his own way. 

Bo had his best teams with Callahan's recruits, but Bo also created a culture where every game mattered and competition. I don't want to relitigate Bo, but I appreciate his consistency more and more. We've took winning for granted it became hard to appreciate someone who cranked out 9 wins and good kids. It didn't help those miserable SOB's at the OWH were rooting for him to fail. One thing about Bo is I always felt you had to earn your spot and the best players played. T

Frost has disappointed me with game management and special teams. Certainly a veteran coach like Les Miles could have 'coached up' the Huskers and squeaked out a win or two in 2018.

But the Frost system is not to out-Mark Dantonio or Les Miles an opponent, although that approach would be useful this year.

The Frost System is to put up tons of points and outscore their opponents. It's to put up 40 points by the 4th quarter. It's to Tom Osborne'em again.

It's going to be worth is in the long-run and moves like promoting Kade Warner and losing Lindsay (best of luck) tell me things are getting better. 

Riley's team last year flat gave up in November. I want to see this team improve and fight.

Keep the faith. GBR

It seems we just get further and further away from what Nebraska was all about when we grew up.

First, Frost has been puffing his chest and providing bulletin board material for every B1G team. He’s lacked Osborne’s humility and his c$%kiness and gets a free pass for his ‘I don’t care what the fans think’ attitude.

The press conference yesterday bothered me bc he was speaking like he was a fan of the program, not someone who has the power to correct and displine his players. I found it curious that both him and James Franklin took the time to deflect in their pressers to ‘a few kids not going to class’ rant. 

If they aren’t going to class, don’t play them. If the kids are dancing, displine them and have them stop. If the players aren’t playing smart, teach them or replace them. 

This lack of accountability is bothersome. Special teams has been pathetic and has cost us big time this year. Special teams and the kicking game at Nebraska have always been above par as long as I’ve been a fan.

Special teams is a reflection on this coaching staff. This coaching staff thinks their system is so superior and will run over teams that they don’t need to worry about the margins. Something as simple as a great punter could improve this team greatly right now. 

Also, bring back the tunnel walk. Look, I love 90’s hip hop as much as the next guy, but the tunnel walk music is for the fans and to get them warmed up. We are losing traditions by the day. 

Frost needs to use this year to learn these lessons.  My fear is the losing will kill Frosts recruiting momentum this year, putting us in another hole. I hope I’m wrong. 

Here is HuskersGameday scathing rebuttal!

http://huskersgameday.com/2010-huskers/an-open-letter-to-mike-blackwell-of-insidetexas-com-in-response-to-dear-children-of-the-corn/

I love this section

Go grab a Webster’s dictionary, look up the definition of the word ‘hypocrite’ and stare at yourself in the mirror for 15 minutes. You are the definition of the word “hypocrite”. Your provincial view of the college football landscape can be summed up thusly: “Everything is okay unless Bevo doesn’t get his way.”

 

By pretending that y’all wanted to cross the Golden Gate Bridge holding hands with Rachel Maddow on the way to your next naked yoga class in Berkeley, you conveniently got rid of Colorado and Nebraska. Two teams in your league with a combined six national championships in the past 40 years. In case y’all have forgot already and need a quick reminder: y’all have won just ONE national championship in the past 40 years. Y’all are the opposite of Theodore Roosevelt. Y’all talk loudly, but carry a small stick

Steve Sipple was on the HuskersGameday Podcast for 40 minutes today.

Really good stuff on spring practice, position battles, and a 'kinder, gentler Bo"

My link

As luck would have it, I just found the Tom Osborne interview from yesterday's College Football Live

Class man!

http://huskersgameday.com/video/video-tom-...-50-state-tour/

I just listened to this podcast of Husker Talk by these two brothers. I found it pretty intelligent compared to some of the noise out there

http://HuskersGameday.com/podcast/huskers-...cast-episode-5/

it had me for a moment.

but the lady below has me the rest of the time