freemason9

but this is getting bad. I hope Bo can stop the hemorrhaging.... I think one of the best things that could happen is if LSU's D looked incredible and they win the title. I would like to know what hawkins is telling our recruits.

 

I still say that Pellini coaching for LSU in the MNC game does NU more harm than good.

and your reasoning is?...............

 

My reasoning? I wouldn't give it much credibility. I'm wrong about half of the time.

 

I just have a feeling that it isn't nearly so well received in the rest of the nation. It gives the appearance that Pellini is just a "part time" coach at NU, and that he isn't fully committed to the Huskers. After all . . . in a very important time as new HC at Nebraska . . . he leaves his team and returns to his old one. I don't much care for the idea of that.

 

Also, if LSU looks really good . . . will recruits be attracted to Pellini, or LSU? Which do you think that they will remember about the game?

 

Also, Pellini already seems to have a dubious reputation elsewhere, but I don't know why. People are joking about NU's selection as new HC, but we shall see.

It shows he's dedicated to what he's doing and dedicated to his players. My guess is he's not doing it for LSU, but doing it for the players. People can joke all they want cause almost every hire has some sort of negative to it. Most other teams know if we had half a defense we would have been a tough team to beat.

We'll sure agree on that. Whatever happened on defense--and it went far beyond lack of talent, or conditioning, or game planning--destroyed the entire team. With a good defense, that might have been a 10-2 season. Or better.

I'll always say the talent and coaching was there. The chemistry was not.

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Good Lord.

but this is getting bad. I hope Bo can stop the hemorrhaging.... I think one of the best things that could happen is if LSU's D looked incredible and they win the title. I would like to know what hawkins is telling our recruits.

 

I still say that Pellini coaching for LSU in the MNC game does NU more harm than good.

and your reasoning is?...............

My reasoning? I wouldn't give it much credibility. I'm wrong about half of the time.

I just have a feeling that it isn't nearly so well received in the rest of the nation. It gives the appearance that Pellini is just a "part time" coach at NU, and that he isn't fully committed to the Huskers. After all . . . in a very important time as new HC at Nebraska . . . he leaves his team and returns to his old one. I don't much care for the idea of that.

Also, if LSU looks really good . . . will recruits be attracted to Pellini, or LSU? Which do you think that they will remember about the game?

Also, Pellini already seems to have a dubious reputation elsewhere, but I don't know why. People are joking about NU's selection as new HC, but we shall see.

 

I still say that Pellini coaching for LSU in the MNC game does NU more harm than good.

 

Edit....Saw a response on another post that answered my Q.

Was that a reply to my posting? I don't get it. Then again, I never knew what the "Edit" preface meant, either, although I see it from time to time. Did I break some kind of rule? Seriously. I like this board.

I've won. There's no need to continue this.

but this is getting bad. I hope Bo can stop the hemorrhaging.... I think one of the best things that could happen is if LSU's D looked incredible and they win the title. I would like to know what hawkins is telling our recruits.

I still say that Pellini coaching for LSU in the MNC game does NU more harm than good.

You should understand why so many of those highly-talented athletes agreed to go to Nebraska in the first place. NU is nothing special if you don't live in Nebraska, so don't expect them to "play for Nebraska." They play for themselves, and they wanted to play for a Callahan-coached team. He is gone now, and he has been replaced by a defensive coordinator that seems to be an underling of TO. That is not a good national image, folks. Get real. It is only special in Nebraska.

Callahan was a successful coach in the past, and he undeniably knows a lot about the game. He is gone now, and Pellini is an unknown; in addition, I don't think that his return to LSU to coach in the next few weeks is a good thing at all. It makes him look a bit less than dedicated to his new role as NU coach; it looks as if NU is secondary in importance in his eyes.

We had some really good recruits in the last two-three years, but the team chemistry crashed--bad, real bad. I chalk it up to a senior class that withheld effort and leadership, and to an over-emphasis on JC recruits.

Pellini needs to not make the same mistake that Callahan did; he needs to rebuild and focus on development of sound, young players. The "win now" strategy works occassionally, but more often it crashes and burns. We've all witnessed Oklahoma's experience with that.

Don't ever think that recruiting isn't important. It is vital; and it can be supplemented with good player development.

In short, the players are waffling because they do not share the Bogasms of some Nebraska fans. As far as they are concerned, he is still only a tested defensive coordinator that is not all that good at recruiting.

Hopefully, time will correct this.

any great coach can hire a good offensive coordinator as well, which is what Pelini will do

 

 

that is exactly 100% correct and he will basically stay out of the offensive scheme as well. he will delegate it to Watson and let him run with it. he will concentrate on defense and make great strides and bring this program back. he is smart enough to coach to HIS strength and let Watson do his thing. cally wasn't worth a sh#t at either one, at least Bo knows his talents and will focus his efforts in that direction. i think those that keep the faith will be pleasantly surprised.

 

the naysayers can log off and go bitch somewhere else. i prefer to give this guy a chance, at least 4-5 years and see where we go with this new bunch of coaches.

My main concern is with recruiting. So far, I'm not impressed (an Honorable Mention all-state from Class C??). Maybe it will improve once TO steps out of the picture . . . in 10 or 12 years, or so. LOL

Since there are very few new threads coming up on here and Rumorville slowly dying on the vine, I will start one.

 

I want to admit that I didn't think there was any chance that TO would hire Pelini. I thought there were enough ????'s to avoid taking the chance. When people posted that we need the fire of Pelini and we need a defensive head coach, I usually laughed. Any coach can hire a good DC and the problem would be solved. No amount of theatrics on the sideline will have the staying power necessary to make a great D, but right up front in the press conference there was TO talking about needing a defensive guy, and it being a main reason he took Bo.

 

So if you were as WRONG as I was, add your name to the list. Swallow your pride and remember, if Bo goes sub .500 for a few years and gets fired we can dig this up and look like the smart ones.

I expect Solich, Part II.

Dang it. He's the guy I wanted at NU.

Oh, well. Who knows? Maybe the Pellini Experiment will work out. Lord knows, the Solich Experiment didn't account for much.

Maybe is was not so much Dr. Tom telling Pelini who to hire as much as Pelini discussing the people he would look at for his staff. Maybe Pelini said, I liked working with Brown or Cotton or Gill or whoever and discussed how these people would work in his staff.

 

When Dr. Tom talked to Grobe, maybe he said here is my staff and Dr. Tom just asked about other coaches that might hasve ties to Nebraska in the past and Grobe did not know these guys or did not want to take that path.

 

I do no believe that Dr. Tom told Pelini who to hire, though he might have had some input based on Pelini asking for input. Grobe is not a bad guy for not having that mentality and he did not get the job...no harm and nothing against him.

 

After all, Brown did say that Pelini told him back in 03 that if he was the new Head coach he wanted Brown on his staff. Pelini is following through with things he talked about back then...I am excitied to see the changes and I truely hope this tunrs out good for Coach Pelini and the team. I believe it will.

 

Osborne tells the new coach guys he wants on staff, but gives Callahan no input as far as guys he should keep or let go. Something doesn't add up here. I think Osborne wanted Callahan to fall flat on his face so he could get rid of him, no questions asked.

Or it may have been that Osborne made some "suggestions," and Callahan reminded him that he wasn't the head football coach anymore. He didn't realize that Osborne has never given it up . . .

I was reading a few articles around and the Lincoln paper has spotted Trev coming out of the complex ... could he be the possible AD in training?? don't think he is coaching material since he doesn't have any experience that I know of.... Any thoughts???

Maybe he doesn't have anything else to do.

Apparently you're not mature enough to discuss something intelligently without personal insults, so I see no need to respond to your comments. And I'm not your brother, so enough with that act too.

And apparently you're not mature enough to accept another person's faith and their right to express it, as well. So we've figured that one out.

 

Ah, but I am. I am totally ok with his right to believe in whatever he wants. I am totally ok with him expressing it in the appropriate forum. I think his job with the FCA was perfect for that. I just don't think it is appropriate to use his job as a Nebraska coach to do it. Please do not twist my opinion into something it is not.

 

 

in what ways has he not used the appropriate forum?

 

Using the pulpit provided to you by a government job is not the appropriate forum to be talking about your religious beliefs (or lack thereof).

 

As far as simply not listening, that is exactly what I do. When Ron Brown is interviewed on tv I just ignore it or turn the channel, because I know half of it is going to be about God. Given that it is a government job, it isn't quite that simple to determine whether it is "right" for him to do it or whether he has the "right" to do it.

 

I get the feeling that many people are ok with him using a government sponsored position to promote his religious beliefs because they happen to agree with his religious beliefs. I may agree with his beliefs as well, but that doesn't make it right for him to do that. I certainly wouldn't want a coach to use his job to promote his beliefs in radical Islam or Hatian Voodoo. My opinion is the same regardless of what religious belief (or lack thereof) that he is promoting.

You are correct, but it won't make any difference. You will still be attacked. That's the way they do it.

You guys are hilarious. According to some he has the right to talk about his beliefs but I don't have the right to be annoyed by it? I would never say he doesn't have the right to talk about his beliefs, but why don't I have the right to talk about mine? I believe religious beliefs are a private matter and you don't go around advertising them at every opportunity. I also believe (based upon the constitution) that you don't use a government job (yes, that's what being a coach at NU is) as a platform for advancing your religious beliefs.

 

Like I said, I am glad he is back, because i think he is a good person and a good coach. I just wish he would stop trying to convert me when I am reading the sports page and just want to learn about the team.

 

Are you so totally backed up that even the merest mention of the word "God" throws you into a fit?

 

It must be a difficult life you live, brother.

Allah Akbar!

If you want to leave we cant stop you. Bo might of snubbed nebraska but look what nebraska did to him. Fired his mentor then sent him packing wouldnt you be alittle peeved. Anyone who is trying to steel recruts from oposing teams is going to use alittle ribbing and bashing. And will all respects bo was probally right. Might of said in 2003 that nebraska is going to be down and out in 4 years and ohhh wait look here we are. Sounds like you are a great guy and a great loyal husker fan. Why would you want to quit now when things are starting to look up. After the last 4 years under callahan you leave now when theres some light at the end of the tunnell. Im not saying bo is the final answer but hes the gd liferaft hold whats left of this team upright. I was for gill, he was the essence of what weve had ofer thelast 30plus years but its not his time. Someday maybe but not now. Embrace what we have and lets get back to what this team is here for.

 

Kickin A** and Takein Names

 

Ben

Hey, I'm not crazy about the Pellini hire, either, or the way that it happened . . . but I'm on board, now. I'm a homer when it comes to the Huskers. I liked his presser yesterday, and he seems to have a real passion for NU football. That can go a long way.

The ultimate success/failure of the HC depends upon the quality of the assistant coaches, IMO, so we will have to wait until that fills out. It's good that Pellini has a good grasp of defensive football; we really lacked that in the last few years. The former DC was a large part of Callahan's undoing.

So, from now on, I am a Pellini backer. And in four years, I will probably be berated on this board when everyone wants to see him fired--and I will be one of the few that continue to support him.

We need continuity, that's all. I think that Solich could have succeeded, and I think that Callahan would have worked out, too, given enough time. Continuity of staff is key.

GBR

The only things I can think of right to reply to your post would be negative and would grant me a warning so Ill just stick to this..

 

 

 

You have got to be joking me.

Did I miss something here? Are my facts wrong? I'm just saying that this whole thing stinks to high heaven. IBR knew months ago EXACTLY what was going to happen. Doesn't this mean anything at all to you?

Bo Pelini accepted the NU job as we all know. Also, if you doubters want to hate on this info go ahead, but Gil will be the OC (at least has been offered but he is thinking about tryint to get a better head job) and although Mike Stoops will not be fired from U0fA he was offered the Defensive coordinator job and will definitely accept if UofA loses and will probably still accept even if they win.

 

FYI

 

curious who will accuse me of stealing this from another source cause it's not being reported anywhere right now. This is from insidee the athletic dept of UofA

I seriously think that this, and all of IBR's predictions, should be archived in preparation for the upcoming attorney general's investigation. Apparently someone knew what Osborne was going to do even before Peterson was fired.

Immensely interesting, don't you think, Husker fans?

i started to read all the posts, then just became too impatient with it all.. seriously, anyone is a risk.. like one of the guys at the beginning said.. we could bring in urban meyer and its honestly a risk.. not everyone can pan out everywhere.. and who are WE to second guess TO or any other "higher ups" as BC woulda called em? seriously, its not like we have the ability to second guess the authority and they obviously made the decision for the reasons that they did.. so don't sit back and bitch about it, and if you do.. you're not welcome back on the bandwagon whenever we return to greatness, whether that be next year or 20 years from now..

Pellini could be good, could be bad. This says more about Osborne's management style than anything else. It appears that he tossed out proven HC's in favor of Pellini. Why? Perhaps Pellini was a "discount" hire, and was much cheaper than the others. Perhaps Osborne never had any intentions of hiring anyone else; maybe he was just doing what he agreed to do. It's hard to say. I do know this, though . . . as a congressman, he never told Bush "no." He knew who was calling the shots, and he did as he was told.

This stinks to high heaven. I hope that a good journalist takes this story and runs with it.

If these fellows on this board that claim to have gotten it right . . . those fellows telling us about "banking" the firing of Peterson, the hiring of Osborne, the firing of Callahan, and the hiring of Pellini . . . IF THEY REALLY DID KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN MONTHS AGO . . .

AND if it was based upon inside information that they had . . .

AND if that information regarded schemes and intentions by a group of influential boosters . . .

isn't that a conspiracy?

Just wondering.

Is that a violation of state statutes regarding open government and use of taxpayer money?

Just wondering.

Did Osborne really interview any other coach prospects in earnest?

Just wondering.

Holy crap...why don't y'all chill the f out. Sheesh...we been gettin' rumors all day, every day for the past...what...6-8 weeks. Some'll turn out to be true...some won't. Personally, I'm having fun just readin' them. Your all a bunch of liars if you say different. Otherwise...why would you be here reading them?? I especially like knapplc's (sp?)...very creative...had me goin' for a few minutes even. Funny how you're more apt to believe the rumors that you want to be true...

 

The creative and funny ones have been great. I thought the Salt-Water Aquarium guy was fantastically obscure.

 

I'm sure glad this board doesn't stoop to the same trashy level the LSU board does.

 

People really need to chill out. My recollection, right or wrong, is that IBR said that Pederson was out and TO was in as acting AD before anything went public... The Pederson call could have been luck, the TO information couldn't have been coincidence in my opinion. So his source isn't 100% accurate, life sucks sometimes, doesn't it? Until it's announced by TO, it's still possible for plans to change.

 

I honestly believe that IBR has been privy to real information. He has been in contact with those folks that have been working for four years to atone for Solich's firing. It makes sense. Hiring Osborne exacted revenge upon Peterson for firing Solich; Osborne got his retribution by firing Callahan; he follows up by designating yet another former assistant NU coach that has little chance of exceeding his own accomplishments. Note that Osborne seems to have a problem with hiring head coaches that have established their own credentials.

 

Even "nice" guys can be very conspiratorial at times.

 

This has all the appearance of another Solich hiring. Too fast, not enough of a search. I think that the "search" was a scam, and that Pellini was the designated heir-apparent from the beginning. That's the only reason that Osborne slithered back into the picture.

 

Then again, I see conspiracies everywhere.

 

That might have been the single stupidest thing I've ever read. Congratulations. I'm not shocked often, but your ignorance is absoultey astounding.

 

Now go look for building 7 behind the grassy knoll.

 

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Admit it, though . . . I have not altered any facts, and the timeline is correct. I only draw different conclusions than you. I admit that it may seem preposterous to some, but I have come across many preposterous things in my many years. The NU boosters run this program, don't think any differently. And--this is the key--they have lots of money, but they aren't all that bright.

It is for a fact that Bo Pelini accepted the NU job around 7 pm Lincoln time. He will coach his last game at LSU tomorrow and be on the job full time come Monday.

We're screwed. TO did not even seek out an established, experienced head coach.

I wonder if Osborne will retire before he is fired?

I only care what TO thinks of him.

That's exactly what worries me.

Holy crap...why don't y'all chill the f out. Sheesh...we been gettin' rumors all day, every day for the past...what...6-8 weeks. Some'll turn out to be true...some won't. Personally, I'm having fun just readin' them. Your all a bunch of liars if you say different. Otherwise...why would you be here reading them?? I especially like knapplc's (sp?)...very creative...had me goin' for a few minutes even. Funny how you're more apt to believe the rumors that you want to be true...

 

The creative and funny ones have been great. I thought the Salt-Water Aquarium guy was fantastically obscure.

 

I'm sure glad this board doesn't stoop to the same trashy level the LSU board does.

 

People really need to chill out. My recollection, right or wrong, is that IBR said that Pederson was out and TO was in as acting AD before anything went public... The Pederson call could have been luck, the TO information couldn't have been coincidence in my opinion. So his source isn't 100% accurate, life sucks sometimes, doesn't it? Until it's announced by TO, it's still possible for plans to change.

I honestly believe that IBR has been privy to real information. He has been in contact with those folks that have been working for four years to atone for Solich's firing. It makes sense. Hiring Osborne exacted revenge upon Peterson for firing Solich; Osborne got his retribution by firing Callahan; he follows up by designating yet another former assistant NU coach that has little chance of exceeding his own accomplishments. Note that Osborne seems to have a problem with hiring head coaches that have established their own credentials.

Even "nice" guys can be very conspiratorial at times.

This has all the appearance of another Solich hiring. Too fast, not enough of a search. I think that the "search" was a scam, and that Pellini was the designated heir-apparent from the beginning. That's the only reason that Osborne slithered back into the picture.

Then again, I see conspiracies everywhere.

Freakin' Pellini. I can't believe it. This whole season was engineered so that Tom could avenge Solich's firing by hiring Pellini? How depressing.

Bo Pelini will coach his last game at LSU tomorrow and will announce at a press conference the next days that he will not be coaching the bowl game. He will start Monday as the new coach. Confirming what ESPN said. Not sure when ESPN said this but I got a call at 8:50 Lincoln time.

Mission accomplished, IBR--you got another Solich.