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Bo speaks truth. There are no offensive positions open right now. Not to say there won't be soon. But Watson gilmore cotton brown and beck are all on the payroll still. Officially we have no offensive openings. Is it ridiculous, yes. Is it true, yes.

 

 

Wrong.

 

https://employment.unl.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/Welcome_css.jsp

 

This on UNL's system. It's their job description on their Applicant Tracking System.

What if that posting is old (i.e. positions have already been filled)?

 

 

Once a job is filled the posting is removed/ closed. This is from their career site taken this evening. I doubt if they posted the job to collect resumes. This an open valid job at the Univ. of Nebraska at Lincoln.

 

Actually I was wrong. The VALID job description is not from an ATS. It's a job descrition most likely posted through their HRIS/ HRMS.

 

That's not true. Sadly, there are a handful of jobs that I have applied for in the last several months where the employer has contacted me to notify me that they have already hired another applicant, but the posting is still up (stating "open until filled"). And these are university jobs I have applied for.

 

 

You really think they posted this job to collect resumes? WRONG!!!!!

Where did you get that? Of course not. Like everyone has said many times, this posting is just a necessary move to abide by university policy.

Bo speaks truth. There are no offensive positions open right now. Not to say there won't be soon. But Watson gilmore cotton brown and beck are all on the payroll still. Officially we have no offensive openings. Is it ridiculous, yes. Is it true, yes.

 

 

Wrong.

 

https://employment.unl.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/Welcome_css.jsp

 

This on UNL's system. It's their job description on their Applicant Tracking System.

What if that posting is old (i.e. positions have already been filled)?

 

 

Once a job is filled the posting is removed/ closed. This is from their career site taken this evening. I doubt if they posted the job to collect resumes. This an open valid job at the Univ. of Nebraska at Lincoln.

 

Actually I was wrong. The VALID job description is not from an ATS. It's a job descrition most likely posted through their HRIS/ HRMS.

That's not true. Sadly, there are a handful of jobs that I have applied for in the last several months where the employer has contacted me to notify me that they have already hired another applicant, but the posting is still up (stating "open until filled"). And these are university jobs I have applied for.

Bo speaks truth. There are no offensive positions open right now. Not to say there won't be soon. But Watson gilmore cotton brown and beck are all on the payroll still. Officially we have no offensive openings. Is it ridiculous, yes. Is it true, yes.

So their isnt a job posting on UNL website. Just because a certain individual is being paid doesnt mean his job isnt open for reconsideration by his boss which in this case would be Pelini.

You're right that there is an opening in the sense that a job search clearly is underway, but from another perspective there are no openings in the sense that every position is currently filled. This happens with jobs all the time. Someone gives their notice and the company posts a notice for their position while that employee finishes his/her last few weeks/months.

As it always seems to be with Bo these days, it comes down to semantics in determining whether he's telling the truth.

Why hasn't anyone considered the possibility that Bo is telling the truth that there are no openings since he's already (albeit unofficially) hired replacements for Wats and Gil? Bo often says things that are technically true, like that Sanders was still on the staff as of Wednesday afternoon and that he hadn't hired anyone yet. Kind of like when coaches say they haven't been contacted by a school about a job when really they or their agent have been contacted by a third party search agency that the school hired.

I still say Bo already has a handshake deal with any new coaches on the offensive side of the ball. Nobody has officially been fired or hired. Hence, technically, no current openings.

Does anyone else think it's kind of strange that there is a job posting for an offensive coordinator position? I was under the impression positions were filled by whoever the university likes and wants to talk to rather than any Joe applying.

 

By university policy they have to "post" it.

So then where is the job posting for LB coach?

 

One likely possibility is that they have one posting for multiple positions. That might be why they make the job description so vague. The defensive one could have applied to any position on the defensive side of the ball. Same with this one for the offensive side. I think that's probably what's happening here.

 

Brian Christopherson just confirmed what I suspected above.

 

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I think they only post these when they already have chosen someone. That's what happened when they hired Bo. That appears to be what happened with Raymond and Ells. And I heard this evening from a good source that Bo already has his guy (not Frost or Beck).

So your thinking it will be Jason Phillips or Ed Warinner? I would be very surprised if we didn't get Frost to be honest.

Not necessarily, but those are the other names we're hearing. My friend told me that Bo already has his OC, that it is the guy he wanted all along, and that it is someone outside of the program that isn't Frost.

Does anyone else think it's kind of strange that there is a job posting for an offensive coordinator position? I was under the impression positions were filled by whoever the university likes and wants to talk to rather than any Joe applying.

 

By university policy they have to "post" it.

So then where is the job posting for LB coach?

 

One likely possibility is that they have one posting for multiple positions. That might be why they make the job description so vague. The defensive one could have applied to any position on the defensive side of the ball. Same with this one for the offensive side. I think that's probably what's happening here.

Brian Christopherson just confirmed what I suspected above.

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I think they only post these when they already have chosen someone. That's what happened when they hired Bo. That appears to be what happened with Raymond and Ells. And I heard this evening from a good source that Bo already has his guy (not Frost or Beck).

Actually, the administration has been known to read (or at least be aware) of Huskerboard in the past B)

 

Anyway, about Frost. My feeling is I support him coming here in this context:

 

* Frost is a great recruiter. I like the term 'go-getter.' We need some guys like that, both in terms of energy and in what they bring on the recruiting front. Would be a great asset to us to be a part of this program.

 

* The fact that he is an ex-Husker is just a curiosity, nothing more.

 

* Frost could come in here and coach WRs, which is his only experience coaching anything on offense. It makes the most sense and it's an area we are currently highly deficient in. Frost has some eclectic experiences as a player and coach, but he hasn't exactly absorbed the minds of Chip Kelly and Bill Walsh. We shouldn't expect that or anything even close to it. He isn't going to bring the Oregon spread here, he's going to bring whatever he knows and however well he knows it, and that's something which is a bit of a wildcard, in terms of offensive scheme.

 

* I sort of doubt his abilities as a QB coach and would rather him coach WRs. I think for our QBs, we will look to someone with familiarity currently: i.e, Beck. Maybe Frost will be groomed in this direction, I don't know. I am not basing this on much but I'm a bit more confident with Beck working with the QBs. He has a jump start on that as well, having done all the QB work since bowl prep.

 

* We are not going to go after a big-time OC, I don't think. We are going to go after a guy that will operate under Bo's direction here and familiarity with what he wants to run, as well as a philosophical match with what we are trying to do, are going to be important. I don't like that necessarily, but it ain't gonna change.

 

* So that said, and also thinking Frost won't take a lateral move to come here, it is worth it to give him the co-OC tag.

 

* That said, he is still up and coming and learning on the job. To hand him full coordinator responsibilities is a mistake and a risk I don't think we should be taking with the OC position at the University of Nebraska.

 

Given the constraints of what I believe to be our options, Frost would be an intriguing hire as someone to get within the folds and groom as co-OC. But that is it, in my opinion. I still believe people greatly extrapolate Frost's coaching abilities because of his status as a highly visible former Nebraska player. But I don't think that works the other way around, either: I don't think it colors my view too negatively of him as a coach. I objectively feel that depending on what you give him for responsibilities, he can either be an exciting hire or an unacceptable risk. It is the same with Doug Colman, ex-Nebraska linebacker that I would be just stoked to get for LBs coach.

Very well said.

Rick Parker, Charles's dad, was on 1620 clearing up the quote which got national headlines. He basically said that they had made this decision as a family and Sander's resignation would not have been a factor. Apparently what Charles said was taken a bit out of context. Obviously it came as a surprise that Sanders was no longer going to be coaching, but it was not in any way to be construed that Charles was having second thoughts about Nebraska. He is firmly a Husker. Both Charles and Rick also understood that Sander's fate was not completely clear up until a day or two ago.

 

I have to say Mr. Parker did his kid a service, and by the sound of him, I wish every kid going through this ridiculous recruiting process had such a strong father figure offering guidance and support along the way. It's too easy for reporters to cash in on kid's naivety about how what they say can be misunderstood or overemphasized.

Exactly. His dad did a great job of clearing up everything. And just to clarify, he was upset with ESPN ignoring the part of Dirk's article where Charles said he would still have gone to NU even had he known about Sanders leaving before signing day. Just one more reason why

I don't think he's going to be the next OC (from what I'm hearing), but Frost does meet the minimum requirements of the posting. And for the record, I don't think it will be Beck either.

Does anyone else think it's kind of strange that there is a job posting for an offensive coordinator position? I was under the impression positions were filled by whoever the university likes and wants to talk to rather than any Joe applying.

 

By university policy they have to "post" it.

So then where is the job posting for LB coach?

One likely possibility is that they have one posting for multiple positions. That might be why they make the job description so vague. The defensive one could have applied to any position on the defensive side of the ball. Same with this one for the offensive side. I think that's probably what's happening here.

Strong evidence that Watson is gone

Why would the university ever need to post a job listing like this for a staff opening?

 

Are they obligated to and we've just never noticed? You'd think they would just make the calls themselves and select the pool of candidates on their own, rather than solicit help from the internet.

I think it's university policy. I've worked at universities that have had the policy that every job opening must be posted publicly for a certain number of days - even positions that a current university employee is already going to take (i.e. promotion). I believe NU did this for the head coaching position during their last coach search. Does anyone else remember this?

Strong Evidence that Watson is gone

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Notice that it doesn't require the ability to be "multiple" in your offensive scheme.

The initial word I heard from a friend of mine that usually knows this stuff before it's made public had Watson and Gilmore definitely out and possibly Sanders and Brown too. I told him I understood the Wats and Gil part, but said he was crazy about Sanders and Brown. My exact words were, "Barney would go before them!" But maybe it's not too crazy after all seeing that Sanders is gone.

This is disappointing. I expected more from Bo, especially with all of his emphasis on building trust with his players. I hope he's man enough to acknowledge his mistake and apologize to the kid.

I know everyone has their "guy in the know," but I did hear from a very reliable source that Frost has turned down Bo. My friend did say that he turned Bo down "for now," implying that it could be part of a negotiating process. He also didn't specify what specific position he turned down. Frost has said in the past that he wouldn't leave UO for a lateral move, so perhaps that's what he supposedly rejected.

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Still waiting for you to explain how you came up with the title of your post. Certainly not by the "story" you linked. That's like saying there will be no staff changes because Bo said there had not been any staff changes to this point.

Just throwing this out there, but maybe we should give Tevin a bit of a break considering the very likely news today that Marvin Sanders isn't on the staff any longer. Depending on the timetable, perhaps someone on the staff notified Tevin of the change and Tevin didn't like that. Not expecting this to be a popular opinion on here, but I think it's a real possibility.

What I can't understand is why recruiting sites like Rivals base their team rankings on total points instead of average stars per player signed. Ranking them by total points does not account for the fact that teams have different sized... classes each year based on scholarships available. For example, USC has 2,431 points, but they have 30 recruits, while Oklahoma has only 1,722 points but only 17 recruits! So Rivals ranks USC's class at #2 and OU's at #13. But if you judge them by average stars per player (which would judge the talent/potential of the class while accounting for different sized classes), you would see that OU really should have the #5 class and USC #11. BTW, Nebraska would have the #9 class according to that ranking (and the top class in the Big 10).

yep Gilmore is gone and Sanders too not too sure about Watson and also Raymond is are new DB coach

I also heard that Raymond is our new DB coach. My source on this is Kevin Wilson.

Atta boy Dirk I knew you'd screw this up

 

Why hate on a reporter for asking the question that everyone is wondering? Like it or not, Bo can't just decide which questions can and can't be asked of him. Any real reporter worth his salt wouldn't let the person getting interviewed get away with that. You can't make him answer the question, but he sure as hell can't keep you from asking the question. It's not like Dirk is disrespectful in the way he asks the question. I say good for Dirk for not cowering to Bo like everyone else.

 

But didn't you think it made those reporters who asked coaching questions look like jerks? Bo told everyone before hand that he was only responding to recruiting questions then a couple of reporters asked about coaching changes. What part of 'I'm not going to discuss coaching changes during this time' do you not get? That's how it came off to me.

I think that Bo IS going to make coaching changes. He said that there would be a time to discuss that topic but it wasn't now. He might not have fired any coaches or hired anyone right now but whose contract wasn't renewed or who left on their own accord?

I think Bo was much more relaxed doing the teleconference versus a live conference with people breathing down his neck.

Just my take

Not at all. A real story broke today, publicly confirmed by an opposing coach. As a reporter you have to ask those questions, even if Bo says he doesn't want you to. That's your job. Period. You're only a jerk if you ask the question in a jerky way, ala T.J. Simers.

Atta boy Dirk I knew you'd screw this up

Why hate on a reporter for asking the question that everyone is wondering? Like it or not, Bo can't just decide which questions can and can't be asked of him. Any real reporter worth his salt wouldn't let the person getting interviewed get away with that. You can't make him answer the question, but he sure as hell can't keep you from asking the question. It's not like Dirk is disrespectful in the way he asks the question. I say good for Dirk for not cowering to Bo like everyone else.

Exactly. What is Bo gonna do come out and deny it? This will be the first question asked in the teleconference.

 

And I think Kevin Wilson has reason to coordinate this with NU. He was probably asked the question and gave the answer. This is blowing up in Bo's face for staying so mum on the situation in my opinion. yes, that can be good during this huge day, but all recruits should know what the situation with the staff is. And I think they all do. Kinda like the saying karma can be a biatch

 

Let's hope there's no collateral recruiting damage.

For this year's class? Too late.