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Well Obama is associated with a domestic terrorist, but I don't think Ayers is bigoted.

I think that if Obama had been the featured speaker at a Weather Underground event that it would be a big deal.

 

Nah, according to Fox News, racism is now only found in history books.....

 

Go see for yourself . . . go to Fox News and search for "Scalise." Zero results from the last 24 hours. Fair and balanced. Heh.

Well Obama is associated with a domestic terrorist, but I don't think Ayers is bigoted.

 

If someone has ANY doubt as to whether Scalise knew exactly who he was talking to they need to refresh their knowledge of La. political history.

We will learn a bit more about who the GOP is and what they stand for from their reaction to this news.

My guess? It's shrugged off and he keeps his leadership position. Alternatively they can prove that they don't deserve their reputation as the party of bigotry.

Here's the problem though, the Democrats have leaders that have very questionable ties to some bigoted folk.

If someone has ANY doubt as to whether Scalise knew exactly who he was talking to they need to refresh their knowledge of La. political history.

We will learn a bit more about who the GOP is and what they stand for from their reaction to this news.

My guess? It's shrugged off and he keeps his leadership position. Alternatively they can prove that they don't deserve their reputation as the party of bigotry.

Wow. Just when I though that my cynicism mostly prevented me from being stunned about political revelations.

Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), the House majority whip, acknowledged Monday that he spoke at a gathering hosted by white nationalist leaders while serving as a state representative in 2002, thrusting a racial controversy into House Republican ranks days before the party assumes control of both congressional chambers.

 

The 48-year-old Scalise, who ascended to the House GOPs third-ranking post earlier this year, confirmed that he once appeared at a convention of the European-American Unity and Rights Organization.

 

That organization, founded by former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke . . .

Dammit, guys. I've already spent close to $300 on brewing equipment and ingredients.

Sigh.

On a lighter note . . . if anyone needs a burner this is a really good deal:http://www.homebrewfinds.com/2014/12/reader-tip-kab6-banjo-propane-burner-80-28-shipped-best-price.html

Like all things you must find a balance.

I'm not sure how many times we are going to have to rediscover that cutting taxes doesn't increase revenue.

Brownback, in 2012 and 2013, signed a two-part tax package exempting 191,000 businesses from income taxes and lowering the top income tax rate for individuals from 6.45 percent to 4.9 percent. It sinks to 3.9 percent by 2018 and even further toward zero each year if revenue grows.

 

Although income taxes composed almost half of Kansas’ general fund, Brownback said the cuts would grow the economy and attract new business, so that revenue would spring back quickly, essentially paying for the cuts. He had Reagan-era tax guru Arthur Laffer at his back supporting him.

 

But his plan didn’t pan out. Revenues are way down, and job growth remains below the national average. His own budget director says they may have to stop some of the tax cuts from going into effect, according to a New York Times interview.

I don't know much about the Cobra's but if you want cheap reliability it's tough to beat Hi-Point. They're clunky, they're heavy, they're ugly . . . BUT they go bang every time you pull the trigger.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/21_268/Hi-Point+Firearms/

 

 

Had one of the Honey Brown Ale beers that we brewed about 6 weeks ago tonight. 13 days of bottling before we cracked one open. Perfect carbonation and taste. Holy crap was it good!

Was that the Brewers Best HBA kit?

Northern brewery kit

 

Ah. Northern Brewery seems to have a better reputation for freshness.

 

 

The Berkley shooting has protesters when the suspect clearly pulled a gun, crazy.

And this shows . . . what?

And your statement showed.....what?

 

That what seems to be a completely indefensible police shooting didn't spark a protest when the offending officer was fired and prosecuted.

Your turn.

The Berkley shooting has protesters when the suspect clearly pulled a gun, crazy.

And this shows . . . what?

 

 

Shoot first, ask questions later.

That officer was fired and is being prosecuted. The part where the guy asks "why did you shoot me, sir?" really hurts.

And look, no riots or protests.

 

Crazy!

Shoot first, ask questions later.

That officer was fired and is being prosecuted. The part where the guy asks "why did you shoot me, sir?" really hurts.

Had one of the Honey Brown Ale beers that we brewed about 6 weeks ago tonight. 13 days of bottling before we cracked one open. Perfect carbonation and taste. Holy crap was it good!

Was that the Brewers Best HBA kit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux17aho5CSM

Not sure what you're gloating about, the IRS already admitted it, if you're happy that there wasn't a clear tie to the White House then yay for you I guess.

The IRS has admitted it was too intrusive in its questions, but argues it is no longer targeting or asking improper questions of groups that apply. Still, some groups are awaiting approval for applications submitted four or five years ago.

 

And last week, one of the groups that waited years for its approval announced it was filing an appeal asking a federal circuit court to ban the agency from targeting in the future. A lower court had thrown that request out, accepting the IRS’s claim that it has halted the practice.

 

 

 

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/23/irs-employees-biased-against-conservatives-report/?page=2#ixzz3MpapzjJ9

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Wait a second . . . the IRS "admitted" the bold . . . and you're going to try to pretend like that confirms and validates the fantastical claims made by the GOP about IRS targeting?

Unless Issa chose to only release the least relevant facts that's going to be a tough hill to climb.

But... but... BENGHAZI!!!

You can just come back to the IRS in a few months when people have forgotten about this embarrassing bit.

And it ends with a whimper. Shocked, I tell you.

WASHINGTON — An 18-month congressional investigation into the Internal Revenue Service’s mistreatment of conservative political groups seeking tax exemptions failed to show coordination between agency officials and political operatives in the White House, according to a report released on Tuesday.

 

. . .

 

Republican lawmakers, dismissing the Obama administration’s denials, have suggested that the delays were not only politically motivated but also orchestrated by the White House.

 

. . .

 

“It is revealing that the Republicans — yet again — are leaking cherry-picked excerpts of documents to support their preconceived political narrative,” Mr. Cummings said, “without allowing committee members to even see their conclusions or vote on them first.”

The GOP is getting pretty used to these pre-holiday news dumps where they quietly admit that they were totally wrong, aren't they?

 

 

Eric was a big guy and the only way to subdue his arms were to get him on the ground.

First, it's false to say that the only way to subdue his arms was to get him on the ground.

 

Second, if the goal is to get him on the ground (which I'm fine with in this situation) the acceptable technique has nothing to do with a chokehold. The head and neck are not involved for reasons that should probably be obvious.

 

BRI can probably chime in with how he was trained to take a resisting suspect to the ground.

 

Typically we try and stay away from the head and neck area. Why? Because we've been warned, at least in Iowa anyways, that it can be construed as deadly force. You can get behind a subject, get them off balance by leaning back and having your arm around the upper chest area and you essentially aren't touching the head or the neck and you can take the subject down. I've done it several times and been successful as I'm in the position of advantage that way. Once you get their back, get them off balance, they're screwed. Now that's assuming they aren't comfortable in a ground fight, meaning a wrestler. I'm very comfortable in a ground fight, but I'm not a wrestler, and being in the State of Iowa and it being a huge wrestling state that's always a concern. I'll look for dead giveaways like cauliflower ear, things like that, that gives me knowledge which is an advantage.

 

There are other techniques as well, arm bar take downs, sympathetic reactions, pressure points, etc, but my experience is when the SHTF you usually forget most of that stuff and go back to your take downs where you're trying to get the position of advantage and get them off balance. One good thing for me about working in a county jail for 6 years as a deputy was, I learned how to fight without having the luxury of tools on my duty belt because all of that besides pepper spray was taken from you. You also learned how to treat people and what respect truly meant. Those years in there have helped me immensely on the street. Every officer in America should spend at least 1 year in a county jail or prison setting. It teaches you how to talk to people and helps you not become a badge heavy a$$. Those murderers, gang bangers, rapists, etc. could care less if you wear a badge, but they'll give you respect if you give respect back to them.

 

Eric was a big guy and the only way to subdue his arms were to get him on the ground.

Second, if the goal is to get him on the ground (which I'm fine with in this situation) the acceptable technique has nothing to do with a chokehold. The head and neck are not involved for reasons that should probably be obvious.

BRI can probably chime in with how he was trained to take a resisting suspect to the ground.

I agree the choke hold seemed unnecessary, but he was a big guy and in trying to restrain him, this was a tactic that they felt could subdue him.It wasnt illegal. He was under arrest. He was resisting arrest.

While I agree that in hindsight this might have felt unnecessary, at the time they were trying to place him under arrest.

I guess my question, is what would you want done to the cops? Arrested for murder or manslaughter? I dont see anything legally wrong with what they did. After watching it, it seemed a bit excessive but in the moment, the cop might have felt that was needed to subdue him.

Valid point. My point is that if he doesnt struggle with the cops, they dont have to take him down... That caused him to have a heart attack.

 

Garner swats the police officers arms away when he is told that he is being placed under arrest.

 

This is a much cloudier line and I would say this is porbably close to excessive force, but by law when the police tell you that you are under arrest, they have the right to detain you. Eric fought that and that cause some excessive force.

The choke hold and "I cant breath" added but were not the contributing factor.

Please don't try to defend the Garner situation.

I've been investing in Cuban cigars for several years now. But those assets are gone with the wind now.