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8 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Either it's OK to leave a commitment early or not.  If you're going to quibble about timing all your doing is spinning it fit your agenda.

 

Maybe it was OK for Gebbia to leave because he had basically been told he probably wasn't going to play much this year but we should really come down on Frost because he was vital to the entire program.

I think to act as if timing of such things doesn't matter is wrong, and has nothing to do with "spinning" anything. 

34 minutes ago, Mavric said:

Frost just bailed on his commitment to a team eight months ago, if you want to frame it that way.

 

I guess some might say turn about is fair play.

This is a highly disingenuous statement, IMO. I don't think Gebbia would have gotten nearly as much flack as he has gotten if he transferred in the spring or if he'd have finished out the season and left afterward. 

The more apt comparison would be if Frost had taken the offer from Nebraska and bailed immediately. Instead, he and the staff worked their tails off to finish out the season with their team and help them win that bowl game.

Fact is that Gebbia left his team in a lurch for selfish reasons. That's his right, and I can't say it was the wrong decision for him, but I don't think it is right to pretend it is anything other than what it is.

Pulled from Reddit:

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Per Rivals DeanO:

“Nebraska would not confirm this to me yet, but I did confirm with a source that junior offensive lineman Jalin Barnett will officially be stepping away from football. Barnett suffered an injury setback in camp, and at this time, it makes sense for all involved to walk away from the game.

 

He'll be able to still keep his scholarship and stay at Nebraska, but not count on the 85. @Nate Clouse also confirmed that he was not at Fan Day, and a member of the coaching staff was seen taking his name off the autograph signing table.”

I think Hal Daub and a few others should be kicked off the Board of Regents.

Heh, didn't even think about that when I saw them on the broadcast. Good idea recruiting staff. A+

 

Those hounding on Thomas's 2* rating would do well to remember how lightly recruited Ameer was in high school as a RB.

 

Thomas has a running style that I love. At a glance I could see someone saying he runs too high, but I'd argue he's just got a running style that isn't very common because you've got to be very strong to pull it off. I know I'm going to catch sh#t for this, and the comparison isn't perfect, but the first guy that popped into my head as a comparison (style-wise) is Earl Campbell. Of course, he needs to add literally 50 lbs (mostly in his legs) to be on Earl's level, and he's not as fast as Earl was, but he's got that same rock solid base that lets him glide through contact and stay on his feet with power. If Thomas can get his weight into the 230 range, I think he'd be an incredible power back.

I actually thought he was more 6'2" or 6'3" and 210-ish in the Hudl vid because he looks pretty big relative to other players. Then I realized the other players are just kind of small-ish since AT is 5'11"/6'0" 180/190 lbs depending on who you ask. I agree with your style eval, though, sometimes the knee high white sock and white shoes can make players look like Earl Campbell, Marcus Dupree, etc.

 

Your comment is a bit flippant and doesn't really deserve responding to, but I'll just leave this here. Certainly past success doesn't guarantee future results, but I like to think I know a little bit of what I'm talking about, even if only as an amateur evaluator.

Those hounding on Thomas's 2* rating would do well to remember how lightly recruited Ameer was in high school as a RB.

Thomas has a running style that I love. At a glance I could see someone saying he runs too high, but I'd argue he's just got a running style that isn't very common because you've got to be very strong to pull it off. I know I'm going to catch sh#t for this, and the comparison isn't perfect, but the first guy that popped into my head as a comparison (style-wise) is Earl Campbell. Of course, he needs to add literally 50 lbs (mostly in his legs) to be on Earl's level, and he's not as fast as Earl was, but he's got that same rock solid base that lets him glide through contact and stay on his feet with power. If Thomas can get his weight into the 230 range, I think he'd be an incredible power back.

 

 

Wow, I don't think I have ever seen so much hate from such a tolerant person.

 

And I've never seen someone so oblivious to sarcasm. It's a satirical riff on the tried and true "they chose to be this way" and "love the sinner / hate the sin" themes.

 

I guess I should have put a sarcasm smiley to my response also. The truth of the matter is that I find many people that are PC about things to only be tolerant of people as long as the agree with their PC view point. I don't find that any better than RB ultra religious view of the world either.

 

I personally don't find RB to be a problem in the way he does his job as a football coach.He makes no bones about his religious convictions and in the context of dealing with him when I used to coach football I never saw him forcing his beliefs on anyone in the numerous settings that I heard him speak.

 

You're not really wrong, human nature is that we tend to group ourselves among like-minded people (we are on a Husker fan message board, after all). However, I DO see a big difference between RB's views and the "PC" view (I don't like calling it that): the "PC" view is almost always from the standpoint of "accept everyone's ability to determine their own path without hassle from others or hassling of others" while the RB view is "Its my responsibility to tell you that you're living your life wrong". The "intolerence" of the PC crowd that you speak of is because RB is violating the fundamental "hassling of others" belief.

 

It's not.

 

That's not what the Lesbians used to tell my wife when they tried to pick her up at college. Their typical retort to a refused offer was, "What's the matter? Afraid you might like it if you tried it?"

 

I have no reason to believe those lesbians were lying, but if you don't agree with them that it is a choice, take it up with them.

 

Anyhow, I'm guessing that if Penn State had a do over and could choose between our Christian ex-coach and their Homosexual ex-coach, they wouldn't hesitate a second to choose Ron Brown.

 

I'm done here, don't bother replying to me, because I'm not checking back. In all of the internet, I don't think a half dozen opinions have ever been changed, so let's not even try.

 

Just another person echoing that you're very wrong on this, and you should probably do some research on the matter rather than take some ludicrous sounding anecdote as gospel.

So he's following Bo because Bo allows him to preach to the kids? Can the kids leave while he does this? If a kid does leave, are there repercussions? If I were a parent, I wouldn't want that situation for my kid.

I'm sure they technically could leave, but I can't imagine an athlete walking out on his coach if he ever expects to see the field.

Here's my ultimate issue with Ron Brown: his overt preaching on Christianity is much more likely to turn off prospective recruits and even current players than an equally talented coach who doesn't sermonize and keeps his faith to himself. The potential negatives greatly outweigh the potential positives, especially given the cultural attitudes among youth today.

 

 

This is the part that kind of stood out to me. It was never 100% about the program, and the Huskers. He always had a side-gig. You can't be successful as a recruiter if you are 110%. It's not for everyone, but no one will claim that RB was a great recruiter. This is a big part of the reason IMO.

 

 

 

 

lol wat

 

I don't think he's necessarily wrong. Ron Brown visited my school 3 times to give what amounted to sermons to all athletes in our gym as a "motivational speaker". That's his passion, not football.

RB always seemed to be about what was best for the young men in his charge. He still has something to give and took and opportunity where he knows the HC will let him do just that makes sense to me. I wish him the best he's always been a class act!

While I ultimately agree with you, I think there's a distinction to be made in that Ron Brown was about was he thought was best for the young men in his charge. I happened to interact in a coach/young person way with Ron Brown several times ages ~10-17 while growing up in Nebraska and I definitely felt uncomfortable with his overt Christianity at the time. I know that you can be both a good person and non-Christian (specifically a non-believer), but I got the sense from Brown that he didn't agree with that on a fundamental level. It never came up overtly, to be sure, but all of his lessons were heavily couched in Christian moral terms. I understand why Riley, being from a more traditionally liberal part of the country, wouldn't have offered Brown a position with the team. Ron Brown is not a bad man. I think he holds incorrect views on homosexuality among other issues, but I also believe he is very similar to Tom Osborne in that he truly wanted to make a positive difference in the lives of young men, many of whom were troubled.

Look through the history of this guy's tweets. He's got a few screws loose.

Honestly, I first noticed that this happened when I was retrieving the text a few months ago. I submitted a post (which went to mod queue) to the thread bumping it for this year, and shortly after that the thread was hidden by a mod.

People are taking the Davis's brother's quote way out of context here. Rivals has him quoted as saying that Riley has (and presumably will) run a 4-3, but that he is open to using a 3 man front at times as well. I highly doubt we'll be running a 3-4 for any significant time next year.

Rivals has them quoted as staying committed, but will listen to some other schools. Loved what Riley had to say about the style of attacking defense. Quoted that Riley said Banker (new DC) had watched their film and said "You have to go get these guys" which the brothers loved to hear.

I came back to pull up my old post about how Ameer was going to be the best RB of that recruiting class, and I can see the topic in my "content" area, but it appears to have been hidden by moderators.

http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/52154-ameer-abdullah/

Time for the yearly bump.

Taylor Martinez can't pass, cause he sucks.

Zomg, he completed a 3 yard pass to an open receiver!?! I've never seen that before!

Edit: To be clear, that's all Taylor can really do these days (aside from bumble his way into a long run through sh**ty tackling).

TM still doesn't have wheels. TA needs to be unless TM has his wheels and can bust the big runs. That said, he's not getting any help out there. He needs better blocking. Bell has to make that catch. Beck has to quit with the repeated dink pass plays.

 

 

D has to get it together.

This always frustrates me. Yes, Beck runs some screens. But the reason we see so many short throws is because Taylor prefers short throws. The OC calls in the play, but he doesn't execute it. If I'm remembering properly, that 7 yard loss on the swing pass to Abdullah was a 3WR set. Abdullah went to the flat on his route, Taylor turns that way, the LB sucks toward Abdullah just as Westerkamp snaps back on his hook route in a wide open gap in the zone. But Taylor throws a flat ball and he knows it, so he's naturally afraid of trying to fit the ball past the defend (much easier if you've got some touch to your throws). So he goes for the easy completion to Abdullah, ignoring that there are already two defenders closing on him as he throws it.

I've watched that every Saturday in the fall for 4 years, and I'm just sick of it at this point.

Terrible decision by Taylor on that 7 yard loss. WR wide open if he could actually throw over a LB.

Can't wait to see how that was Taylor's fault.

Oh, that one's easy. You think that sideline is a pleasant place to be right now? You're a blind believer if you don't think some of the other players on that sideline are putting some of that blame on TM's poor play today.

Really seeing that "pep" the team has from the return of their leader.

You put Tommy in now. Its the only way you're going to score more points and get out of here with the W.

Betting that MN gets it into the endzone on this drive, Taylor comes out next series, thinks he needs to "make something happen" and lobs a horrible, off balance INT to a covered receiver.