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2 minutes ago, Redux said:

 

Considering what Bo was able to do with Callahan players, it's not crazy to think something mildly simliar could happen this fall.

It’s possible. I’m just not going to go crazy saying the Huskers have the makings of the 09 defense reincarnated on this team. This team should have a relatively high base-level of talent given the recruits that have been brought in over the last few classes, as well as guys coming in to compete for spots immediately. Maybe this staff will be able to turn that talent loose and have it translate to on-field success. A defense that ranks in the top 100 nationally would be pretty cool, tbh. 

46 minutes ago, MichiganDad3 said:

The disadvantage for the Huskers is that many defensive players learned from both Banker and Diaco. It will take a lot of work to make them forget the things they have been taught.

I’d agree with this. A change in system can have a big effect though. I’m not calling for any of the guys to have a Suh-like transformation next year, but really anything resembling aptitude would represent a marked improvement. 

42 minutes ago, brophog said:

 We know the opposition in division isn't strong, save for a Wisconsin team that Nebraska hung with for 3 quarters last year and whom in general didn't perform great against 3 rather poor Riley teams. Everyone else in the division could be thrown into a grab bag and finish in one of the other spots, even Illinois (at some point playing nothing but youth may pay off).

 

Nebraska plausibly could run the division, even with just the median performance jumps one would expect from a first year staff. The bar simply isn't set that high. Need to get lucky with injuries, and need some surprises in crossover games. That could happen. 

So it’s wide open and Nebraska COULD win it? Perfect. Glad we’re in agreement, bud. 

There are plenty of reasons to believe Nebraska could win the west. Frost turned a 0-12 football team with, presumably, near 0-12 talent into an undefeated team that was CFP level in two years. Did UCF get top recruiting classes? No. Frost was able to maximize existing talent and plug gaps where needed. Nebraksa’s base talent level is MUCH higher than UCF’s, even last year I might argue. There is reason to believe that he could take that talent, supplement with new recruits, and have this team competing in the weaker half of the B1G in year one. The schedule isn’t easy, but the division may not prove to be daunting either. 

9 minutes ago, Toe said:

According to ESPN's analytics: "After Nebraska's surprising loss to Northern Illinois Saturday, the Cornhuskers have just a 34% chance of getting to six wins, down from 63% before kickoff."

 

34%? I'll take the under. 

1 hour ago, BIGREDIOWAN said:

Exactly, that's the problem we've been dealing with for a decade now. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Not saying Riley should stay here, but we've been stuck in the same rut forever now. If we bring someone in here they need to be able to run an offense and a defensive system that works with the players that are already here.

Even if the new coach runs some watered down version, they can phase in their system. A good coach should be able to implement something that will work with what's here rather than throw 40+ times a game with a running QB......We can't forget that there are multiple QBs with different skill sets on the depth chart and, if recruiting grades were correct, an abundance of talent here and on the way in. A good, thoroughly vetted replacement should have plenty with which to work. 

49 minutes ago, FTW said:

I say MR needs to make a bowl game to keep his job. A losing season and I believe he will be fired. Like Osborne said to Callahan, there's not many 6-6 seasons around here let alone losing seasons. This standard has to be upheld. We are not Michigan State. We cannot afford to have a 3-9 season.

NU is that school now, isn't it? I agree with your assessment but that is very depressing. 

47 minutes ago, Wild Savage Beast said:

 

 

Next year will be better.  This is more of a rebuilding year (new QB & new defensive scheme)...I predict 8-9 or maybe even 10 wins next season.

New QB but not a freshman QB. There is nothing that suggests NU will be better next year or any year under Riley. The ineptitude of this staff has taken P5 talent and made it look completely anemic against directional schools. 

 

And then there's Lee....he's living the dream and he can't be expected to bench himself, but someone needs to make that decision for him. 

I like playing on Black Friday but the rivalries they've tried to give NU in the B1G feel forced. I'm not a Nebraskan so maybe the Iowa hate is real, but it doesn't seem like the same level of intensity as the NU-OU matchups had. It's like Colorado, but with less history. Partially the fault of Nebraska for not having a whole lot to play for the last game of the year, but I think Wiscy would be a better game to have that day. 

 

Although with the way Wiscy has torched us I think I want that game to be on a day with as many other high profile games as possible. 

 

Edit: I amend my previous position to also allow for Minnesota to be the last game, provided that the broken chair stays a thing. It both reminds us to be thankful for FauxPelini and provides what may or may not be a much needed laugh at the end of the season. 

Saying the same thing in 5 threads doesn't make it more valid or you any less depressing. Also, Imani is slow. Why put in a slow back when our faster back is getting swallowed up in the backfield because he can't beat the defense to the hole? I understand he's a hammer but he doesn't run hard. He makes cuts in the backfield and doesn't run as punishing as he used to (rewatch the Illinois game if you don't believe me) and has little acceleration. He's valuable, but he won't fix the running game if Ameer can't get it going.

If you look at the score, no

 

If you actually watched the 52 minutes of ass whoopin, the definitely yes.

You spelled 45 wrong.

For the better part of a decade I have tried to figure out the logic of the polls. Can somebody explain it to me? #19 Nebraska plays at #10 Michigan State, who is favored by about 7 points. So, the already existing expectation is that Nebraska is going to lose by a touchdown. In the actual game, we lose by 5 points. So, Nebraska actually outpreformed expectations. Why should they drop even 1 spot? If you think about it logically, they should actually jump a spot or two. I have never understood that.

It's not an actual ranking of who is the best. If it was Oregon wouldn't drop, Bama wouldn't drop, etc. teams get beat and get punished. It doesn't make any sense but it makes sports writers feel important.

 

 

Tommy got hurt and came out for the rest of the drive. I feel dumber for having read this.

You should feel dumber for having disagreed with it.

Yeahhhhh nah. Someone has an alias?

I think we learned that we have been simply stretched too thin to compete with big time programs with this many injuries.

 

Mike Rose

Davis Santos

Charles Jackson

Avery Moss

Leroy Alexande

Cethan Carter

Kenny Bell

Jamal Turner

Sam Burtch

Brandon Reily

Marcus Newby

Adam Taylor

 

These guys not on the field was what broke us tonight. With this defense, I think we will be in Indy at the end of the year... I just hope we get another shot at Sparty.

This is important to remember. You can criticize the coaching of the players that are healthy, but don't forget that there are guys that were supposed to start that aren't, forcing inexperienced guys into pressure spots. I have a lot of hope for next year. Ameer and Bell will be big losses, of course, but we get much of the core back and maybe Ameer can tell Gregory how awesome being a senior is. Maybe? Please?

 

Don't want to sound like I'm giving up on this season. This team has a lot of opportunities ahead to have a great year. I feel next year we may surprise some people.

 

 

 

Yes. And Nebraska doesn't deserve to be ranked.

Michigan State is a playoff contender and we were beaten but not blown out. I'm not referring to the score either. I mean the actual gameplay. That's a really freakin good defense and a good offense. We hung around and were able to make a run at it at the end. Is that what top 15 teams do? No. But it's what #20-25 teams do.

No we'll still be knocked out, but, it doesn't matter now, what matters is getting to the Big Ten title game and winning it. So, destroy the poor souls we play next.

You're right. I suppose I got carried away answering "should we drop out" instead of the question at hand which is "will we". Yes. We will. For a variety of reasons we've been deemed unimpressive by voters this year so I don't see the trend changing.

Yes. And Nebraska doesn't deserve to be ranked.

Michigan State is a playoff contender and we were beaten but not blown out. I'm not referring to the score either. I mean the actual gameplay. That's a really freakin good defense and a good offense. We hung around and were able to make a run at it at the end. Is that what top 15 teams do? No. But it's what #20-25 teams do.

Probably 23 or so. Or maybe not. We drop out for winning so who knows.

Haha. Gets my vote for worst/most comical thread/post of the night.

It is a joke right? It has to be. I mean...right?

 

 

 

 

Basically Polo is right, this game was not surprising if you aren't blinded by the red goggles, it was not nearly as close as the score indicated, we were embarrassed for 3.5 quarters in a big game yet again. If you aren't nervous about traveling to Wisconsin you're deluded. "All our goals are still ahead of us yadayadayada" ...look, we're shaping up to have the same season we've had the past 6 years. Wake me up when it ends.

Who else is a loss for us? Wisconsin is the best team left and Wisconsin cannot execute a forward pass. I feel like you haven't seem them play this year and think Russel Wilson still plays there. I'm not saying it's a 100% win but don't act like we've lost that game, plus two others, before they're even played.

Seriously, Rutgers, Iowa, NW, and Wisconsin are toss ups. To say otherwise is delusional.

Dare I ask what your basis for this statement is?

I have about zero faith in our linebackers stopping any team committed to the run. And and we just saw what happens when any team commits to stopping our run attack when the talent bears equal.

Our D played ok. They got beat on a few big plays by a better-than-anyone-thought MSU O. Luckily MSU is the best team we play all season. Wisconsin can't pass so I like our chances loading up against the run. Also, outside of Wisconsin there's nobody else even close to MSU in talent left on our schedule. So maybe they'd know how to stop us but being able to do it is another thing completely.

 

 

Basically Polo is right, this game was not surprising if you aren't blinded by the red goggles, it was not nearly as close as the score indicated, we were embarrassed for 3.5 quarters in a big game yet again. If you aren't nervous about traveling to Wisconsin you're deluded. "All our goals are still ahead of us yadayadayada" ...look, we're shaping up to have the same season we've had the past 6 years. Wake me up when it ends.

Who else is a loss for us? Wisconsin is the best team left and Wisconsin cannot execute a forward pass. I feel like you haven't seem them play this year and think Russel Wilson still plays there. I'm not saying it's a 100% win but don't act like we've lost that game, plus two others, before they're even played.

Seriously, Rutgers, Iowa, NW, and Wisconsin are toss ups. To say otherwise is delusional.

Dare I ask what your basis for this statement is?

 

 

 

 

 

Going for two is NEVER the right decision and WILL come back to bite you.

Could someone explain that, the numbers didn't add up to go for 2 the first time. Had we kicked the extra point both times, we could have kicked a field goal to put it into overtime.

The first time we went for 2, we had just scored from a 27-3 deficit (24 points). We want to go for 2 to cut that into 16 points (2 scores).

 

The second time we went for 2, it was 27-22 and a successful conversion would have cut it to 3 points (FG).

 

So it was the correct call in both cases.

We threw away one point, two times. We lost by 5. 5-2=3. Field goals are worth 3 points. I stand by my statement.

I don't even know why I'm arguing you with this, but did think you really think we would have 3 scoring opportunities, that it would have come down to just a FG? You're cutting the number of scoring drives from 3 to 2. But obviously, the coaches should have had Captain Hindsight on the staff to tell them they would have had a third scoring opportunity to end the game.

I'm saying it as a general rule. Leaving points on the table almost always comes back to bite people. You're saying 12:49 is only time for two offensive possessions? Seems legit. If you kick the first time, the second one is an obvious kick. The second one was probably the right choice, but only because of the poor decision the first time.

 

 

 

Basically Polo is right, this game was not surprising if you aren't blinded by the red goggles, it was not nearly as close as the score indicated, we were embarrassed for 3.5 quarters in a big game yet again. If you aren't nervous about traveling to Wisconsin you're deluded. "All our goals are still ahead of us yadayadayada" ...look, we're shaping up to have the same season we've had the past 6 years. Wake me up when it ends.

Who else is a loss for us? Wisconsin is the best team left and Wisconsin cannot execute a forward pass. I feel like you haven't seem them play this year and think Russel Wilson still plays there. I'm not saying it's a 100% win but don't act like we've lost that game, plus two others, before they're even played.

Other than Wisconsin: Rutgers, Northwestern, and Minnesota all have pulses (in case you hadn't noticed) and the way we played today and against f'ing McNeese State, I don't know how you can think we're a lock on any given week. And we have to travel to Iowa who, despite looking terrible, did kick our ass last year.

The Rutgers that scraped past Michigan? Northwestern I might concede because they've been a thorn in our side, but they're not all that good. Minnesota's statement victory is against Michigan. Iowa beating us last year has nothing to do with this year. They're bad at football. We may take a dump and also be bad at football by the end of the season but you're acting like it's a foregone conclusion. Also, give McNeese a rest. It was clearly a letdown game and not a real indicator of where we are as a team.

 

 

Going for two is NEVER the right decision and WILL come back to bite you.

Could someone explain that, the numbers didn't add up to go for 2 the first time. Had we kicked the extra point both times, we could have kicked a field goal to put it into overtime.

The first time we went for 2, we had just scored from a 27-3 deficit (24 points). We want to go for 2 to cut that into 16 points (2 scores).

 

The second time we went for 2, it was 27-22 and a successful conversion would have cut it to 3 points (FG).

 

So it was the correct call in both cases.

We threw away one point, two times. We lost by 5. 5-2=3. Field goals are worth 3 points. I stand by my statement.

 

 

Going for two is NEVER the right decision and WILL come back to bite you.

Could someone explain that, the numbers didn't add up to go for 2 the first time. Had we kicked the extra point both times, we could have kicked a field goal to put it into overtime.

Well they wanted to make it a two score game. Problem is I don't think they really expected the comeback. With the wind we were in field goal range at the end before the pick. In that case it's not as desperate and maybe Ameer breaks free on a draw or something and scores or gets us even closer.