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No, my son has a baseball career ahead of him.

 

I don't think we've gotten soft, I think we've got too much technology. Super helmets let players hit harder, with harder hits come harder falls, with harder falls come more concussions. Look at rugby. That's a manly man's sport, do rubby players have near the incidence of brain injuries? Maybe they do, but I have heard others say different.

Different rules, from what I remember tackles must be made below the waist, there needs to be a clear attempt to wrap up the opponent and no leaving the ground while making contact.

god- reading this thread, it is easy to understand how far the U.S. has slid as a once proud country- let's just ban tackle football and have all men wear maxipads-

And yes I have a son who played football

I was thinking the same thing and its sad. We've gone soft.

Knowledge is power. The more they come out with results of studies in any arena actually the more power we have to make informed decisions...bluster aside.

If being soft means you don't play contact sports then I just have to disagree on that point.

I live in CT and hockey is bigger than football. My nephew starts on the high school team and is the captain. All has been good until last season when he got his bell rung and wound up in the hospital. I can say for a fact that the whole hockey/contact sports thing took on a totally different light that night. He's still playing but if he receives another serious concussion I'll say that his parents will be close to pulling the plug on the game.

We've had a couple Alzheimer's members of the family, both died recently. You don't go through an experience like that and not have your views altered.

I wish Ohio State was allowed to play in the championship game. Would be interesting to see how a rematch would go on a neutral field

 

Too much attributed to home field. Yes it has advantages but there are plenty of examples of failures on home fields by home teams. We played USC at the Shoe a few years back. For as long as I can remember Bucks fans have been grousing about the west coast's teams having the advantage in the Rose Bowl and have been clamoring to get our nemesis USC in our house. Well after a few decades we finally get them at the Shoe...and lose...to a frosh QB. IMO the worst regular season loss we ever had. It was our one chance to kill that argument and we had all the advantages we could ask for, but stunk it up. In that one game the home field advantage got blown to pieces. Same thing with our loss to Texas as Colt McCoy marched his team down the field in the closing minutes.

 

The power of shutting down a home team and silencing the home crowd is almost as powerful as having the crowd in your corner.

 

I'd still like to see a team from the west coast/south to come up there in Oct or Nov.

that's the real B1G home field advantage. So USC and Texass came up in sept when it was still warm, big deal.

It's not like Ohio is the arctic in Oct/Nov. I now live in CT and have workers on my construction crew that still wear shorts those months and CT isn't that different from OH. I've never been to Nebraska but I'd say the weather is similar? With all our losses I can think of the execution, personnel, or coaching screw-ups that cost us the game. I can't really remember crowd or weather being a factor.

I wish Ohio State was allowed to play in the championship game. Would be interesting to see how a rematch would go on a neutral field

 

Too much attributed to home field. Yes it has advantages but there are plenty of examples of failures on home fields by home teams. We played USC at the Shoe a few years back. For as long as I can remember Bucks fans have been grousing about the west coast's teams having the advantage in the Rose Bowl and have been clamoring to get our nemesis USC in our house. Well after a few decades we finally get them at the Shoe...and lose...to a frosh QB. IMO the worst regular season loss we ever had. It was our one chance to kill that argument and we had all the advantages we could ask for, but stunk it up. In that one game the home field advantage got blown to pieces. Same thing with our loss to Texas as Colt McCoy marched his team down the field in the closing minutes.

 

The power of shutting down a home team and silencing the home crowd is almost as powerful as having the crowd in your corner.

 

 

I watched that game. Matt Barkley didn't beat you. The All-Americans on their interior offensive line beat you. You could not stop them in short yardage and I think that's the biggest reason you lost.

Coqui is correct, our prevent cost us the game. No reason for it, just the style that Heacock (our DC at the time) conducted business at the closing minutes.

I wish Ohio State was allowed to play in the championship game. Would be interesting to see how a rematch would go on a neutral field

 

Too much attributed to home field. Yes it has advantages but there are plenty of examples of failures on home fields by home teams. We played USC at the Shoe a few years back. For as long as I can remember Bucks fans have been grousing about the west coast's teams having the advantage in the Rose Bowl and have been clamoring to get our nemesis USC in our house. Well after a few decades we finally get them at the Shoe...and lose...to a frosh QB. IMO the worst regular season loss we ever had. It was our one chance to kill that argument and we had all the advantages we could ask for, but stunk it up. In that one game the home field advantage got blown to pieces. Same thing with our loss to Texas as Colt McCoy marched his team down the field in the closing minutes.

 

The power of shutting down a home team and silencing the home crowd is almost as powerful as having the crowd in your corner.

You mean Vince Young, right? So, not that big of a fail, considering they won the NC that year. Nothing at all to be ashamed of.

Actually I referenced the '08 bowl game against Texas where they marched down the field last minute just like USC did. We're famous for closing minute prevent defenses that let the other team win a game we had in the bag. Wasn't a home game but the loss was the same script as the USC game. I could have been more clear.

I'm getting really tired of the 'most knowledgable' fans acting like kindergarteners when officials and coaches make questionable calls or comments.

 

For example: "Stafford hates Pelini", "Did we deserve the win?", and so on.....

 

How many members have actually played at a level that they might understand the exchange between player and coach? I'm not saying one coaching method is better than the other, but chances are most of us that played have a connection with Bo's style...

 

 

Plenty of idiots who played football just like non-football types. Insignificant question...

 

BTW I didn't play football...hockey. But I find that my years studying organizational behavior has more applications to sport than any experience with an athletic team I was ever part of.

Insignificant post.

Predictable response

Played both. The OP is right if you didn't do football in college good chance you lack perspective on the Bo thing. And there's a reason the OP didn' t ask if you played in elementary.

Seriously? What type of style is it that you're referring to? Because he yells? He intimidates? Gets in your face? That's good? That's bad? We have to be college football players to understand intimidation? Motivation techniques? Bo's type exists everywhere...so do Tressel types. Do I have to be a college football player to understand Tressel's type of personality? Landry, Schembechler, Shula. Should I go outside of sports?

Yes, there is a perspective that non-college football players will not have that those that did do. But so what? There's plenty of perspective that the ex college player doesn't understand too.

I wish Ohio State was allowed to play in the championship game. Would be interesting to see how a rematch would go on a neutral field

Too much attributed to home field. Yes it has advantages but there are plenty of examples of failures on home fields by home teams. We played USC at the Shoe a few years back. For as long as I can remember Bucks fans have been grousing about the west coast's teams having the advantage in the Rose Bowl and have been clamoring to get our nemesis USC in our house. Well after a few decades we finally get them at the Shoe...and lose...to a frosh QB. IMO the worst regular season loss we ever had. It was our one chance to kill that argument and we had all the advantages we could ask for, but stunk it up. In that one game the home field advantage got blown to pieces. Same thing with our loss to Texas as Colt McCoy marched his team down the field in the closing minutes.

The power of shutting down a home team and silencing the home crowd is almost as powerful as having the crowd in your corner.

I'm getting really tired of the 'most knowledgable' fans acting like kindergarteners when officials and coaches make questionable calls or comments.

 

For example: "Stafford hates Pelini", "Did we deserve the win?", and so on.....

 

How many members have actually played at a level that they might understand the exchange between player and coach? I'm not saying one coaching method is better than the other, but chances are most of us that played have a connection with Bo's style...

Plenty of idiots who played football just like non-football types. Insignificant question...

BTW I didn't play football...hockey. But I find that my years studying organizational behavior has more applications to sport than any experience with an athletic team I was ever part of.

Insubordination...I'd hammer his ass in some way. That type of behavior can be infectious. Not the end of the world but it does show some cracks IMO.

Ohio State grad here. Gotta say I love the addition of your school to the B1G. It's great to watch a quality team with a rich tradition join our conference. Never liked the addition of PSU to the conference, just never seemed like a good fit to me and still doesn't and I'm glad you beat 'em.

I'd love OK to join too just so your classic rivalry could be reborn.

Now go run the table and represent!

The Point was that Nebraska takes the cheap way out. Always looking for how to save the money. We have a on the job head coach, on the job OC and DC. Can you say the same for any other top program, there maybe others, but I can not think of them.

Big time programs find what they need, not take what they can get and we settled because a certain booster wanedt Pelini, and agreed to foot the bill.

By on the job I'm assuming you mean first time on the job training...Beckman is an experiment but that's going backwards, Chizik was pretty much a noob HC unless you count one year at Iowa State as an ice breaker, Will Muschamp is doing pretty good and it's his first time to the ball, Mark Dantonio, O'brien seems to be doing some good in a very difficult situation. And exactly how many true top tier coaches are there...five maybe? It's the same predicament that OSU was in until the Urban thing fell in our lap. Pelini seemed to be a good hire, I wouldn't get down over that hire at the time regardless of your present feelings. UM couldn't find what they needed did they? It's harder than people think.

Just for kicks...if a top tier coach made his interest known to Nebraska you don't think they'd pony up?

 

You get what you pay for. Ohio State bought the best they could buy.

 

skersfan...OSU got Urban through a real stroke of luck. Many events had to happen to get him here at the right time. Illness, burnout, Pryor tatoos, Tress covering it up, Urban's wife wanting to go back home, open position at his home school, and on and on and on. Obviously the school ponied up but so would most top tier FBS schools if they had an opportunity to obtain a coach of that stature.

Really, the prospects were quite bleak for obtaining a head coach for OSU. Us fans were trying to come up with lists of potential candidates and it wasn't pretty. Beckman, your coach's name came up, Randy Edsal (gag), Tucker, Spencer? Other top coaches for various reasons had no interest and OSU has good drawing power. In the end if Urban wasn't available the OSU spot could have gone to a relatively unknown up-and-comer, a roll of the dice.

I saw a post on one of the other threads, I think it was the "I wish I knew" thread where one member suggested to go out and get a big coach because we're Nebraska. It's just not that easy even for a program as prestigious as Nebraska. Heck, Michigan which is another big time program had Miles and Harbaugh turn down offers and they got RR and now Hoke (who is doing a good job BTW but hardly a top name at the time). So I guess it's "be careful what you wish for" with your coach. I don't know who's out there at this time but at least Bo has brought Nebraska back to the discussion.

In the end, we lucked out getting Urban, we all know it but are looking forward to some new style football with a new attitude that hasn't been seen for a long time.

I have to agree. Just have to. As much as I dislike Urban, i see him as the spark this old school conference needs. I believe he's going to ruffle enough feathers to the point that like you said, the old "gentlemens agreements" will be thrown out, and the rest of the programs will start to become more aggressive

We won a NC with Tress at the helm...It was never going to be repeated with him. In those ensuing years the SEC just became a tidal wave and the "old way" of the game was just left in the dust...and that goes for all phases including the partnership with SEC and ESPN. The B1G unfortunately doesn't have the cache that it once did and it's going to become harder and harder to attract top coaches and talent. Urban at least sends a message...it's up to the schools to deal with it or continue the present course.

A coach with any class takes a couple knees and gives the ball to the ref. If any plays are ran, it's with the 2nd and 3rd stringers.

Hi everybody...OSU person here, first post and I'm not here to inflame or rile up your house. Husker fans treated our fans great last year when we travelled to see the OSU/Neb game and we appreciate the class, too bad I can't say the same with a couple other schools.

Anyway I thought I'd throw a different perspective on this quote. bringonUrban in post #5 is correct, our primary back Jordan Hall is out with an injury. Rod Smith hasn't seen squat this year because of his fumble issues. Most of us were surprised to see him in the game. Our #1 TE Jake Stoneburner was supplanted with a couple of noobs during the game too.

OSU fans over the past decade were used to Jim Tressel playing with class and taking knees. It drove us mad...frickin mad. Why? Because Tress did not want to rub anyone's nose in a lopsided victory however that position nearly cost us games a number of times, the last being against AR in a BCS bowl. We're certainly not used to scores above 40, let alone 50 or 60 and are quite surprised by the final score. Especially given the newness of the system.

I do feel however that Urban is going to force change at within the conference, some of the "gentleman's agreements" are out the window much to the chagrin of Beilema or Dantonio. I think he wants to send a message loud and clear that he's going for titles and needs to compete against the SEC which is the big deal these days.

Once he gets his recruits in here that play his system I think he'll be able to compete with the SEC schools, at least that's our hope. OSU hasn't fared too well against those teams for a number of reasons, big change needs to happen to accomplish that.

Anyway...good luck to you guys against those pukes at PSU and UM.