Hercules

lol, you can't be serious.

 

Serious about .. ?

 

I said put it on his body = easy TD. Polar said if he did it would have been an easy INT.

 

Only point I'm trying to make.

Ah. You might be right. Hard to tell without seeing it in real time.

So placing the ball where only Bell could catch it = big no no. got it.

 

 

Ball is at the top of the screen, next to the goal post.

 

Who was going to catch it again?

lol, you can't be serious.

holy crap thad randle

IDK man he put his hat on the ball, across the players body. It does look like he dips his head but honestly if he doesn't lower and put his hat across like that then there WOULD actually be straight up helmet to helmet contact.

He should put his facemask on the ball, not the crown of his helmet.

I don't really know what jaws is saying - if he's saying it was dirty, I disagree... But I do agree with the idea that it was poor technique. Eyes down, didn't wrap up. If he had his eyes up and wrapped up, he makes the same play, no penalty. Even if he kept his eyes down, but wrapped up and drove his body through the opponent, I bet he avoids the flag.

Tommy Armstrong sure looked like a freshman yesterday.......oh wait that's right.

 

Taylor is hurt right? So we are winning games with a freshman backup QB and RK3? Sounds good to me. Til' Taylor is healthy, this is the situation we are in. Almost seems like some of you were almost "happy" Tommy showed his freshman side the other day. Almost like you were hoping he would struggle? Not quite sure why that would be. Til' Taylor is back, I'm going to continue hoping we keep winning these games. Though Beck's playcalling still baffles the hell out of me sometimes.

Nobody was "happy" that Tommy struggled, but there were a number of posters on this board stating that they believed Taylor should never start again - that Tommy was the better QB and that it was clear-cut. Then there were those of us who argued that we hadn't seen enough of Tommy, that he was a redshirt freshman who would have his ups and downs, and that people were hasty in abandoning a 5th year senior in favor of a "new, shiny toy." That latter group isn't "happy" that TA struggled, but we're at least feeling validated.

I can see the Targeting penalty, just not the disqualification.

I don't think this call was made because SJB made helmet-to-helmet contact. This was called because he led with the crown of his helmet, which he did - he's gotta keep his eyes up.

There were probably three other possible targeting calls in our game today that I noticed. The difference was that all three of those were between the tackles, where it never gets called.

Armstrong was 6/18 for 43 yards and 3 INT's.

RKIII was 10/13 for for 141 and a TD.

Don't know how you can look at that and come to the conclusion that the WR's are the reason the offense struggled today.

Who is #14? Was that Prince Fielder?

Jonathan Rose.

QE is off today that pick is on him.

Throw was way behind. TM would be blamed for that pick had he thrown it.

Man, Enunwa really has put on some speed this year. Lookin' good.

RG44!!!!

Armstrong is a redshirt freshman. He's gonna have his ups and downs, and this is the first defense he's faced that has had reasonably good coverage on our WRs. Not too surprised that he's made some poor decisions - he'll learn from them and grow.

RK really outplaying TA today. Can we all just agree that when TM is healthy, he needs to be in

I hope TM can get healthy...

Man, do we have no confidence in our kickers?

Man, at least 3 passes where Armstrong is not on the same page as his WRs.

AROD got smoked

That was Cotton.

Oh, my bad.

AROD got smoked

GERRY

I guess the offensive game plan today is abandon the read. I have only seen one read play this quarter.

I've seen it 2-3 times, but there's no reason to run it with RKIII.

Poor decision there. Also rather predictable play call. Feel like we see that RB wheel route every time we line up in the diamond.

The King, that's why a healthy TA is a better option than an injured TM, but TM ran for 1,000 yards last year, more than his first year starting IIRC. How do we know that IF he's capable of overcoming the turf toe, that he won't run the same? If TM isn't healthy enough to run then I agree, he shouldn't be our starter. But, the notion that he "looks lost" or has only made "a few great plays" is absolutely ludicrous.

 

This. Martinez had turf toe his freshman year as well, and he came back as a very effective runner both his sophomore and junior years. Don't know when he'll be fully healthy again after this injury, or when he'll be effective again, but if he gets back to 100%, you're crazy not to put a guy like that in the game. He knows the whole offense, he can progress through his reads, he's a threat to score on any given play, and he is among the most accurate passers in the conference (even after going up against defenses like Michigan and Michigan State, which TA has not done yet).

 

Also kinda tired of hearing how TA is a better runner than TM. They're styles are so different. TA is never going to be someone who takes it 40 yards for a score (or even 20 yards, maybe), and he's never going to be a 1000 yards rusher like TM. He is shiftier in small places and because of that, he is able to keep you more on schedule at times. But to say that one of those running styles completely outweighs the other is wrong - they're both effective in their own way.

 

Don't forget to mention Taylors penchant for fumbles.

 

He rarely progresses through all of his reads. Really rare. He has horrible pocket presence.

 

He hasn't proven to be a running threat AT ALL this year. The threat of him going the distance on every play, isn't there right now.

 

You assume he will get back to 100%. That's a big assumption.

 

Tommy definitely has his faults, but I prefer a RS FR make the mistakes than a RS SR.

Yes, this is assuming he's back to 100%. It's all hypothetical. If he's not 100%, by all means, play Armstrong. But if Taylor is back to 100%, he's absolutely a threat to run the ball, and anybody who says otherwise has completely lost their objectivity.

You're right, Taylor has had a penchant for fumbles. Armstrong has fumbled the ball as well, but he's mostly an unknown at this point. Taylor didn't have a fumbles problem two starts into his career either - it was revealed over time. Taylor does do a better job of going through his reads - that's an area that he has improved in a great deal, and I'm not so sure I've seen Armstrong throw to a checkdown receiver yet.

The King, that's why a healthy TA is a better option than an injured TM, but TM ran for 1,000 yards last year, more than his first year starting IIRC. How do we know that IF he's capable of overcoming the turf toe, that he won't run the same? If TM isn't healthy enough to run then I agree, he shouldn't be our starter. But, the notion that he "looks lost" or has only made "a few great plays" is absolutely ludicrous.

This. Martinez had turf toe his freshman year as well, and he came back as a very effective runner both his sophomore and junior years. Don't know when he'll be fully healthy again after this injury, or when he'll be effective again, but if he gets back to 100%, you're crazy not to put a guy like that in the game. He knows the whole offense, he can progress through his reads, he's a threat to score on any given play, and he is among the most accurate passers in the conference (even after going up against defenses like Michigan and Michigan State, which TA has not done yet).

Also kinda tired of hearing how TA is a better runner than TM. They're styles are so different. TA is never going to be someone who takes it 40 yards for a score (or even 20 yards, maybe), and he's never going to be a 1000 yards rusher like TM. He is shiftier in small places and because of that, he is able to keep you more on schedule at times. But to say that one of those running styles completely outweighs the other is wrong - they're both effective in their own way.