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My prediction: Bo will continue to do just a good enough job (9-3, 10-2) in the regular season to keep his job a few more years. We will not make a BCS bowl with Bo as HC, barring some very flukey happenings, because Bo's teams will be outcoached in at least two games a year (often against opponents with losing records) and we will get to spend the next few years watching him not learn on the job.
Kind of like Osborne's coaching years.
And in this day and age, as I've said elsewhere, Bo's not going to get 22 years to win a MNC. Hence, the upcoming decade of mediocrity.
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My prediction: Bo will continue to do just a good enough job (9-3, 10-2) in the regular season to keep his job a few more years. We will not make a BCS bowl with Bo as HC, barring some very flukey happenings, because Bo's teams will be outcoached in at least two games a year (often against opponents with losing records) and we will get to spend the next few years watching him not learn on the job.
Then the new HC comes in, takes 3-4 years to get HIS program going; boom, there goes your decade, and it could be longer if Bo's eventual replacement isn't any better.
In the meantime, Husker fans, get used to this scintillating selection of bowl games:
- #3 The Outback Bowl receives the third choice of Big Ten teams.
- #4 The Gator Bowl receives the fourth choice of Big Ten teams.
- #5 The Insight Bowl receives the fifth choice of Big Ten teams
- #6 The Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas receives the sixth choice of Big Ten teams.
- #7 The TicketCity Bowl receives the seventh choice from the Big Ten.
- #8 The Little Caesar's Pizza Bowl will take the eighth choice from the Big Ten; if no remaining teams are available, the bowl will choose a Sun Belt team.
I would love - love - to be proved wrong the next few years. But I'm not very hopeful.
- #3 The Outback Bowl receives the third choice of Big Ten teams.
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Seems to me we have a lot of talented frosh warming pine, regardless of walk-ons.
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Use our playmakers instead of thinking 50 touches from Burkhead is gonna get it done. Turner? Abdullah? Heard? Green?
Exactly. Watching the Bama/LSU game made me cringe.... FR and Sophs's all over...... while NU puts them in the oven to bake and mature. Sad sad indeed. What a HUGE waste of talent.
What the hell are we doing making a guy like AGreen stand on the sidelines?
THIS. Why are we recruiting this guys if we make them sit on the bench? Why the hell isn't Jamal Turner playing? I love Rexy, but you're telling me he's the ONLY one out there who can play?
Under Bo we have yet to have a team that plays like champions; I doubt we ever will.
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I prepped this for another board, but thought it was worth posting here as well. After my knee-jerk reaction to the game (which I didn't get to watch live unfortunately), I thought a little bit about it and looked at TO's first years.
After Osborne took over (after some very good teams), his record of his first four years (coming off a 9-2-1 team) was 37-10-2 (.755), broken down as such:
9-2-1 (13-12 loss to #12, 27-0 loss to #3, Tie with unranked)
9-3 (21-20 loss to unranked, 21-10 loss to unranked, 28-14 loss to #1)
10-2 (Losses of 35-10 and 17-14, each ranked #7 at the time)
9-3-1 (Tie with unranked, 34-24 loss to unranked, 37-28 loss to unranked, 20-17 loss to #8)
Pelini's record 36-14 (.720) through nearly 4 seasons (coming of a 5-7 team) breaks down as such:
9-4 (35-30 loss to unranked, 52-17 loss to #4, 37-31 overtime loss to #7, and 62-28 loss to #4)
10-4 (16-15 loss to #13, 31-10 loss to unranked, 9-7 loss to unranked, 13-12 loss to #3)
10-4 (20-13 loss to unranked, 9-6 loss to unranked, 23-20 loss to #10, 19-7 loss to unranked)
7-2 (48-17 loss to #7, 25-18 loss to unranked)
If this year's team wins out, loses the CCG and wins their bowl game, record will be 40-15 (.727).
Oh, and through 50 games, Bo and TO both lost to 6 unranked teams. Bo lost to his 7th in his 51st game as head coach. The average ranking of ranked teams that TO lost to was 6.3, Bo it is 6.8
Before I get accused of "sunshine pumping" and defending Bo to the death, I think he has issues and I'm still pissed we lost today. I think Bo has character issues that TO didn't have. I'm just putting the "sky is falling" response of some into perspective. I honestly think if TO had coached in a day with internet message boards, he never would have made it to winning 3 national championships with us. I don't think Bo will ever reach TO status, but some of us have gone from expecting excellence and good teams to being spoiled.
Thanks. I appreciate this
Yes, this is excellent perspective.
Bo won't get 22 years to win a natl title, though. Remember when T.O. lost what, 8 bowl games in a row? Bo will never get that chance. It's a different world now.
Also, Bo is no T.O. Long run of mediocrity awaits us, I'm afraid.
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I can't stand this lockstep loyalty crap some of you seem to think means fanhood. Fanhood doesn't mean you put on blinders and can't criticize. BO LOSES TO TERRIBLE TEAMS. EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.
If that's acceptable to you, then I think it's you who isn't the real fan.
Who said you can't criticize the team? Who said it? Seriously - show me exactly where I said or anybody said you can't criticize the team and have to say something nice or don't say anything at all?
I don't think even you can deny some of the absolutely pathetic things being said on here - case in point someone bringing up Carl Pelini's transgression for the first time in forever, just because we lost. Why did a loss require that kind of immature response?
The issue here is that people aren't criticizing the team - instead, they're saying coaches need to be fired, they're bringing up off the field issues, they're saying everything is wrong here. Etc., etc.
Pelini has lost to bad teams since he's been here, but he's also beaten many good teams. This happens to every coach who has ever coached a football team and that includes the great ones. One loss a football coach's career does not make. Criticize the play all you want - but this coaching bs that gets brought up after every loss is just pathetic. Everybody was on the bandwagon last weekend, and now all of a sudden Carl's off the field issues are why we lost.
I never said Bo should be fired, or about Carl or whatever. What I've said is that Bo is a solid "B" coach, and that we're not going to be get over the hump back to the elite with him here. You think Bo can take us back to the promised land? I don't.
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Oh. My. God. One loss, against a team that has played many other teams extremely close this year, and we're saying we need to re-evaluate our coaches again.
I think some of you need to re-evaluate yourselves. Every single team in the country loses a game it shouldn't one year or the next. Osborne did it, Meyer did it, Spurrier did it, Bowden did it, Paterno did it, Stoops did it and I could keep going all day. I'm not saying Pelini is near the caliber of those coaches yet but you really need to get your mind right if you think these kinds of things don't happen to even the best of coaches. It's just embarrassing coming on here and seeing the type of comments I'm reading. Carl needs to go...Raymond needs to go...whatever.
I'm nowhere near as disappointed in this loss as I have been in others in the past. It was too little to late for us, but we can still have a successful season if we rally the troops.
Please, for the love of everything Husker football, just shut the hell up about this kind of stuff. It makes you look pathetic and I don't care if you disagree with me. There's absolutely nothing you can say that will change my opinion on this - it's pathetic to be calling for these kinds of things when there's absolutely no substantial reason to do it. Everybody was on the bandwagon last week. It's funny how one bad week really separates the true Husker fans from the fair weather ones.
AMEN!!!!
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I can't stand this lockstep loyalty crap some of you seem to think means fanhood. Fanhood doesn't mean you put on blinders and can't criticize. BO LOSES TO TERRIBLE TEAMS. EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.
If that's acceptable to you, then I think it's you who isn't the real fan.
HEY! It's the old sunshine pumper/"realist" conflict again. Love it.
right?
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I see your 2008, and raise you 2009, 2010, & 2011.
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decent season derailed by bottom feeder... we are truly a big 10 team now.
true true
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Oh. My. God. One loss, against a team that has played many other teams extremely close this year, and we're saying we need to re-evaluate our coaches again.
I think some of you need to re-evaluate yourselves. Every single team in the country loses a game it shouldn't one year or the next. Osborne did it, Meyer did it, Spurrier did it, Bowden did it, Paterno did it, Stoops did it and I could keep going all day. I'm not saying Pelini is near the caliber of those coaches yet but you really need to get your mind right if you think these kinds of things don't happen to even the best of coaches. It's just embarrassing coming on here and seeing the type of comments I'm reading. Carl needs to go...Raymond needs to go...whatever.
I'm nowhere near as disappointed in this loss as I have been in others in the past. It was too little to late for us, but we can still have a successful season if we rally the troops.
Please, for the love of everything Husker football, just shut the hell up about this kind of stuff. It makes you look pathetic and I don't care if you disagree with me. There's absolutely nothing you can say that will change my opinion on this - it's pathetic to be calling for these kinds of things when there's absolutely no substantial reason to do it. Everybody was on the bandwagon last week. It's funny how one bad week really separates the true Husker fans from the fair weather ones.
AMEN!!!!
BSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSB
I can't stand this lockstep loyalty crap some of you seem to think means fanhood. Fanhood doesn't mean you put on blinders and can't criticize. BO LOSES TO TERRIBLE TEAMS. EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.
If that's acceptable to you, then I think it's you who isn't the real fan.
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11/23/01 We were relevant before this game. Haven't been since. Don't know if we'll be 'back' in my lifetime.
That's about right.
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Bo didn't take recruiting seriously his first two years
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Frank is good for the MAC, but didn't take recruiting seriously enough and let the talent fall to a point to where he lost every streak excpet the bowl streak and KU. If he would have stayed one mroe year, he would have has those on his resume too.
For being so quick to attack others' opinions, you sure make some incredibly broad-sweeping statements of your own. I don't know how close to the program you are personally, but you'd have to be pretty close to be able to judge how seriously a particular coach takes any given aspect. And without so much as a sentence of proof/explanation...
Really, I can't believe an ugly loss to Northwestern in 2011 is bringing back the Solich vs. Callahan debate (which was never necessary to begin with)! Solich was a C+ coach and Callahan was closer to a C-. Bo has been around a B for most of his time here. None of these three have anything to do with the other two.
Yes. Bo is a B. Not very inspiring, is it?
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That Bo is a miserable, miserable motivator. How many more times will this happen, I wonder? Oh that's right - 2 or 3 times a year as long as he's coach. Throw in one more loss on average. Bo's a 4-loss coach.
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You are far too reasonable to be on this board right now, dude.
F*ck it, I'm gonna go play with my kids.
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Bo likes to hold the players accountable for crappy performances so maybe he should be held to the same standard. No check for Bo and his staff this week.
$3,5000,000 coaches shouldn't lose games to teams like Northwestern but Bo sure knows how to do it EVERY YEAR.
THIS. Bo is not going to get us over the hump. I think this is now clear. But go ahead, sunshine pumpers, come on out and say why Bo is so great and I'm a week-to-week fan because I'm criticizing.
T.O. won't fire him. We're doomed to this for a long time.
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Yep. Once again Peliniball comes into play, and we come out flat at home, and lost to an overmatched opponent. Nicely done, NU, for being the next line to figure out the formula.
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You remember the B student in high school? You know, the one who's vice-president of the student body, sixth man off the bench on the basketball team, gets to go on the double-date to prom with the prom king and queen? That's Nebraska as long as Bo is coach. Pretty good, you know, but never on top.
Bo is a very good coach, but he's not a great one. This sort of letdown have just happened too many times. Obviously he is not going to get fired, so Nebraska will remain firmly entrenched in 3.0 land. 9-3, 10-2, 8-4, B1G runner-ups and non-BCS bowls as far as the eye can see. Looks good if you're a Kansas fan; unacceptable if you'rea Bama or tOSU fan.
What do you say, Huskerland? You ready to be the B student?
The valedictorian, prom king, starting varsity players will be on display in about an hour.
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Welcome to the board.
What kind of chances are you talking about? You'll notice that Rex generally comes in to return punts when they need a tenured guy back there to just call a fair catch. Burkhead isn't a great return guy because he doesn't have great speed like Abdullah does, but he has a lot composure and he's a good safety net if you need a reliable player back there to just call a fair catch. That reliability isn't there with those other guys.
In essence, they're taking less of a chance having Burkhead back there.
FWIW...coming out of high school, Rex ran a 4.46 40 yd. Abdullah was listed as running a 4.51.
Believe it or not, Burkhead just might be tough, white, AND fast.
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Better all the way around. Love the BTN, and not having to think about Texas.
I will say that it's a little hard to get up for, say, Michigan St, the way you could get up for, say, KSU; but that history will come in time.
Miss OU, though, even if they don't miss us. Oh well - now karma has them shacked to Bevo till the end of time.
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Are you the MulletPelini who posts over at Shaggybevo? Keep on fighting the good fight over there, if so.
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Ameer will learn to hang on. I agree that Rex is too valuable to be taking punt returns. It only takes one of these and there goes our MVP
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6 AM on a Sunday, and I'm posting on this damn board. Dumb. So, in announcement that will shake you to your very core, I'm outta here. Life's too short and Husker games are too long to go on hanging around here rehashing everything, especially on bad weeks. Nothing against you fine folks, but there's fresh air outside. I'm done and I ain't coming back. Mods delete or whatevs at your pleasure.
GBR.