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Man thats the JT we all thought we would have for 4 years.......

Agreed. He's always been electric with the ball in his hands. Getting it there has been the issue.

There we go. Hat tip to Newby for once.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

F'ing Newby.

Play call and pass accuracy doomed that play.

Newby keeps his balance when he turns around and it's a first down.

Sounds like a bunch of boys who never played the game.

pretty ignorant and arrogant statement to make.

 

Nope, I have and most have not hit more than a keyboard. It is a fact.

 

 

You're a clown. If you think Newby is a good football player, then the most you did on any "football" team is get splinters in your ass. Guaranteed.

 

Do you want to put your money where your mouth is? Have you played past high school? Seriously, put up or shut up.

 

What does this even mean? You trying to fight? LOL. Does that flower on your shirt squirt water?

 

 

 

 

 

F'ing Newby.

Play call and pass accuracy doomed that play.

Newby keeps his balance when he turns around and it's a first down.

Sounds like a bunch of boys who never played the game.

pretty ignorant and arrogant statement to make.

 

Nope, I have and most have not hit more than a keyboard. It is a fact.

 

You're a clown. If you think Newby is a good football player, then the most you did on any "football" team is get splinters in your ass. Guaranteed.

WTF is wrong with Langsdorf?

Cross picks up 4 yards on 1st down to give you 2nd and 6. Then he throws deep out of a spread set for an incompletion and tries a sh**ty screen with Newby for no gain on 3rd down.

Why can't he stick with what is working? And if you want to throw, maybe dial up play-action pass out of a heavy set (you know, so the defense will be on its heels). And for the love of all that is holy, keep Newby off that got-damn field.

F'ing Newby.

Wouldn't mind seeing a play action out of a heavy set. You don't have to go single back just to throw.

Play calling is very vanilla, but you have to like the way they are not putting all the pressure on Armstrong. That's the beauty of having a solid power running offense; it takes a lot of the pressure off your QB.

Looking forward to watching Oz the next couple of years.

Watching Oz and Cross, I wonder why Newby ever saw the field.....

Ozigbo is a big 10 rb. He is gonna be a good one. Yep

Yes, yes, and yes.

I appreciate that they're running it, but I see little imagination in the scheme.

Agree, but let's take what we can get with this coaching staff. Imaginative running plays is asking way too much. For now, let's be happy we're running it and with guys not named "Newby."

Keep pounding the rock with Cross/Ozigbo.

it's not 5-7 having a negative effect on recruiting it's the calling for the coaches to be fired after the second and third loss of the season. how long have these kids been hearing about how the coaches need to go from the fans and other programs picking up on this then using it negatively?

Here we go again. Just like under Bo. It's everyone but the coaches' fault (AD, fans, big bad media). I guess being a successful coach these days comes down to having the luck to be surrounded by a good fan base. Otherwise all your schemes, teaching ability, recruiting savvy, etc. are for naught.

 

 

 

 

5-7 in one season is frustrating for fans, but not necessarily a deal breaker for recruits. The poor record, spun the right way, indicates opportunity for incoming freshmen. Changes will made, and early play time is a likely for some.

 

OTOH, I think the frustration of fans is probably a bigger problem to recruiting than the crappy record. Nebraska has world class facilities, and is a historical, storied football program. Not many places have a trophy case as full as ours. We're an impressive destination for recruits. But when Husker fans scream to high heavens calling for the coaches to be fired, and the local newspapers run articles dragging the staff through through the mud it makes recruits question the job security of the coaches. That's why I find it so maddening when posters spew the same crap in every single thread on the board. It's okay to be frustrated and angry about 5-7. We all are. But some of us feel like it actually hurts the program to say the same negative things over and over and over in about 50 different threads.

 

Ah, geez, not this self-loathing crap again.

 

Even if you believe that the fans' angst has a bigger impact on recruiting than a 5-7 record--itself a ridiculous proposition--the whole reason the fans are upset is because of the 5-7 record. So even in that warped view, yes, the 5-7 record has a negative impact on recruiting, either directly or vis a vis it's role in generating fan angst.

 

Thus, Riley & Co. only have themselves to blame for the dismal recruiting. Unless you go so far as to argue that the fans' angst is the reason for the 5-7 record, in which case you've not only warped space and time, but are now emulating Pelini's excuse-factory approach to coaching and the origin of the "us against the world" mentality.

 

I can't believe some fans actually believe this crap.

Nice job trying to turn the above post into an excuse about fans causing the losses, however that's a long stretch based on what was stated by NUance.

 

 

"the fans" - I didn't know we are all upset. Might not be happy that we didn't win as many as expected, but in no way am I upset - I'm sure there are others that would agree.

 

So "Riley & Co. only have themselves to blame" because of the poor record. I didn't know that the games outcome was 100% based on the coaches. I thought there were players on the field for two different teams and a set of coaches on the other side. I would think that a combination of those 4 groups would decide the game. Maybe in 2016 we can go with your idea and each week at about 55 different stadiums we can just have the coaches walk out on the field and after a few minutes of coach talk the refs can declare a winner for each game. Sounds fun!!!!

You drunk when you wrote that?

Are you in high school? That reply sounds like something I use to hear 30 years ago in the 11th grade. If you are going to take the time to post and have other posters value your replies you might want to put something of substance in the post.

You should take your own advice. Your prior reply demonstrated terrible reading comprehension at best and was unintelligible at worst. It looks like you're sober now, though. One day at a time, friend. One day at a time.

Well, that's a shame. If this looks anything like the regular season, of the 75 offensive plays we'll run, 40 will be passes, 20 of the 35 carries will go to Newby for a total of 65 yards, leaving 8 carries to Cross, 4 to Armstrong, and 3 to Ozigbo.

Didn't Bill Callahan's second recruiting class come off a 5-7 and rank, on average, around the 7th best class in the nation?

I think good recruiters can overcome a 5-7 record, but let's be very honest: Pre-Nebraska, pretty much everyone regarded Riley as a nice guy but not necessarily a winning coach. The hope was that he was being held back by the difficulties of attracting talent to Corvallis and that things would work beautifully (on the field and on the recruiting circuit) when you married Riley's coaching with Nebraska-level talent and resources. Well, that didn't happen. He took a 9-3 team to 5-7, and the recruiting has been dismal at best. When your results on the field are lackluster and your disposition is soft, it's understandable that talented kids would want to look elsewhere.

Bottom line, OSU 2014 and Nebraska 2015 look very much the same and there's only one common denominator. I hope this year was just growing pains and Riley will turn it around, but it's not looking pretty right now.

 

 

5-7 in one season is frustrating for fans, but not necessarily a deal breaker for recruits. The poor record, spun the right way, indicates opportunity for incoming freshmen. Changes will made, and early play time is a likely for some.

 

OTOH, I think the frustration of fans is probably a bigger problem to recruiting than the crappy record. Nebraska has world class facilities, and is a historical, storied football program. Not many places have a trophy case as full as ours. We're an impressive destination for recruits. But when Husker fans scream to high heavens calling for the coaches to be fired, and the local newspapers run articles dragging the staff through through the mud it makes recruits question the job security of the coaches. That's why I find it so maddening when posters spew the same crap in every single thread on the board. It's okay to be frustrated and angry about 5-7. We all are. But some of us feel like it actually hurts the program to say the same negative things over and over and over in about 50 different threads.

 

Ah, geez, not this self-loathing crap again.

 

Even if you believe that the fans' angst has a bigger impact on recruiting than a 5-7 record--itself a ridiculous proposition--the whole reason the fans are upset is because of the 5-7 record. So even in that warped view, yes, the 5-7 record has a negative impact on recruiting, either directly or vis a vis it's role in generating fan angst.

 

Thus, Riley & Co. only have themselves to blame for the dismal recruiting. Unless you go so far as to argue that the fans' angst is the reason for the 5-7 record, in which case you've not only warped space and time, but are now emulating Pelini's excuse-factory approach to coaching and the origin of the "us against the world" mentality.

 

I can't believe some fans actually believe this crap.

 

 

Nice job trying to turn the above post into an excuse about fans causing the losses, however that's a long stretch based on what was stated by NUance.

 

 

"the fans" - I didn't know we are all upset. Might not be happy that we didn't win as many as expected, but in no way am I upset - I'm sure there are others that would agree.

 

So "Riley & Co. only have themselves to blame" because of the poor record. I didn't know that the games outcome was 100% based on the coaches. I thought there were players on the field for two different teams and a set of coaches on the other side. I would think that a combination of those 4 groups would decide the game. Maybe in 2016 we can go with your idea and each week at about 55 different stadiums we can just have the coaches walk out on the field and after a few minutes of coach talk the refs can declare a winner for each game. Sounds fun!!!!

 

You drunk when you wrote that?

I think they expect 7 or 8 transfers and mostly on defense from the rumors flying around.

 

On D? Damn. All the odds-on favorites to transfer are on O (RB, QB, OL). Who could possibly be so unhappy on D and why?

I heard Bo sez he's a day to day game time decision.

Correct. He's just a little nicked up.

 

 

Part of it is kids now are softer than ever

 

Kids are softer, but so is society as a whole. Criticism is taboo now. Just look at HuskerMax. It's a mortal sin to call out a player on that board.

 

It's always been and always will be taboo to call out ANYONE personally on a bulletin board. This is a place for discussion...not personal attacks. If you think it's unfair you might want to stop visiting to avoid being frustrated each time.

I can't tell if you're serious or not. By that standard, we'd never be able to lament a QB throwing four picks in a game because it would constitute a "personal attack."

Literally all we could say is, "Ya know, that Tommy fella seems like a real fine guy and seems to really play hard and fire those guys up," because it would be an "attack" to also point out that his mechanics and decision-making are questionable at times.

I mean, what is this, a sitcom in the 1950s?

 

 

A loss is just as meh as a win. There's no real difference between losing 7 or 8 games, just like there's no real difference between 5 & 6 wins.

 

Even if we get boat raced? A close loss, sure. A blow out? Not so sure, dude.

What would you define as a blowout loss? Cue numerous tangential posts about blowouts in 3....2....1.

I'd say anything north of a 17-point differential. 28-14 feels competitive-ish. 35-14 is starting to feel and taste (yes, taste) like a blow-out. Also, the higher the total score, the bigger the margin needed to constitue a blow-out. 20-3 feels more blow-outty than 35-14 or 42-21. If one team is shut out, even 14 points can qualify. There is a method to blow-out analytics. Indeed, the upper-division coursebook has an entire chapter titled, "Adjusting for Garbage Time."

 

 

A loss is just as meh as a win. There's no real difference between losing 7 or 8 games, just like there's no real difference between 5 & 6 wins.

Even if we get boat raced? A close loss, sure. A blow out? Not so sure, dude.

Is that anything like motorboating, because that may not be so bad...

You motorboating son of a bitch!

A loss is just as meh as a win. There's no real difference between losing 7 or 8 games, just like there's no real difference between 5 & 6 wins.

Even if we get boat raced? A close loss, sure. A blow out? Not so sure, dude.

 

 

5-7 in one season is frustrating for fans, but not necessarily a deal breaker for recruits. The poor record, spun the right way, indicates opportunity for incoming freshmen. Changes will made, and early play time is a likely for some.

 

OTOH, I think the frustration of fans is probably a bigger problem to recruiting than the crappy record. Nebraska has world class facilities, and is a historical, storied football program. Not many places have a trophy case as full as ours. We're an impressive destination for recruits. But when Husker fans scream to high heavens calling for the coaches to be fired, and the local newspapers run articles dragging the staff through through the mud it makes recruits question the job security of the coaches. That's why I find it so maddening when posters spew the same crap in every single thread on the board. It's okay to be frustrated and angry about 5-7. We all are. But some of us feel like it actually hurts the program to say the same negative things over and over and over in about 50 different threads.

Ah, geez, not this self-loathing crap again.

 

Even if you believe that the fans' angst has a bigger impact on recruiting than a 5-7 record--itself a ridiculous proposition--the whole reason the fans are upset is because of the 5-7 record. So even in that warped view, yes, the 5-7 record has a negative impact on recruiting, either directly or vis a vis it's role in generating fan angst.

 

Thus, Riley & Co. only have themselves to blame for the dismal recruiting. Unless you go so far as to argue that the fans' angst is the reason for the 5-7 record, in which case you've not only warped space and time, but are now emulating Pelini's excuse-factory approach to coaching and the origin of the "us against the world" mentality.

 

I can't believe some fans actually believe this crap.

 

 

So you don't feel that a recruit reading dozens of threads on message boards calling for the coaches to be fired would perhaps think twice about committing to that school? Sure, I'm not happy with this past season. I'm pissed as hell. But I'm just not the type of person who would flush my alma mater down the toilet with hundreds vitriolic message board posts that may potentially damage their recruiting efforts. Instead, I'm hoping these coaches we now have will gain some traction in the next few weeks and salvage this year's recruiting effort. But I guess that's just me. :

 

Honestly, I think you're making way too much out of the fan angst. Ask yourself what fan base is not going to be vocal and upset about 5-7 record on message boards after going 9-3 the prior year? It's very, very unrealistic to expect anything different, honestly. Again, the root problem is the 5-7 record, not fans' reaction to it. They go hand in hand, so much so that I think the recruit will be focused on the record and the state of the program, not the predictable, understandable, knee-jerk disappointment from the fans to the product on the field.

As a convert--someone who did not grow up on Husker football and only became a fan in my early 20s after following other teams for the first 22 years of my life--I have never seen a fanbase with as guilty a conscious as this one. We're not to blame for the dreary recruiting. We're not the ones at fault here. We're okay.

 

No one knows. Hell for still we know it was a distraction throw out there by Riley trying to divert some attention off the Purdue turd

This. It's pretty genius actually. Get fans to debate the unknown rather than discuss the flop that just happened.

 

Almost as genius as when he was first hired and got people on board when he raved about our oline depth and the 10 guys they can play without losing a step, how he's excited to incorporate a running qb into his offense, and how he will adapt his system to the strengths of the team. All of which we now know to be a lie.

 

He's old but very clever.

 

Don't forget the line about going out and finding the very best experts and teachers at each position for his assistants. Surprise! They very best coaches at each position all happened to be at Oregon State!

5-7 in one season is frustrating for fans, but not necessarily a deal breaker for recruits. The poor record, spun the right way, indicates opportunity for incoming freshmen. Changes will made, and early play time is a likely for some.

 

OTOH, I think the frustration of fans is probably a bigger problem to recruiting than the crappy record. Nebraska has world class facilities, and is a historical, storied football program. Not many places have a trophy case as full as ours. We're an impressive destination for recruits. But when Husker fans scream to high heavens calling for the coaches to be fired, and the local newspapers run articles dragging the staff through through the mud it makes recruits question the job security of the coaches. That's why I find it so maddening when posters spew the same crap in every single thread on the board. It's okay to be frustrated and angry about 5-7. We all are. But some of us feel like it actually hurts the program to say the same negative things over and over and over in about 50 different threads.

Ah, geez, not this self-loathing crap again.

Even if you believe that the fans' angst has a bigger impact on recruiting than a 5-7 record--itself a ridiculous proposition--the whole reason the fans are upset is because of the 5-7 record. So even in that warped view, yes, the 5-7 record has a negative impact on recruiting, either directly or vis a vis it's role in generating fan angst.

Thus, Riley & Co. only have themselves to blame for the dismal recruiting. Unless you go so far as to argue that the fans' angst is the reason for the 5-7 record, in which case you've not only warped space and time, but are now emulating Pelini's excuse-factory approach to coaching and the origin of the "us against the world" mentality.

I can't believe some fans actually believe this crap.

 

Eye test rankings:

1. Wilbon

2. Cross

3. Ozigbo

4. Newby

 

Am I wrong?

To me Cross and Ozigbo are a toss up to who's better, but I'd basically agree with that list.

 

 

 

Eye test rankings:

1. Wilbon

2. Cross

3. Ozigbo

4. Newby

 

Am I wrong?

To me Cross and Ozigbo are a toss up to who's better, but I'd basically agree with that list.

I would put Ozigbo above Cross. Cross may have more power up the middle, but Ozigbo has the ability to bounce runs outside when needed. That enables Ozigbo to get more yards out of runs when they aren't blocked perfectly.

 

These guys got it right.