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Anyone else notice that ZD had a headset during the spring game? These cats are up to something good in the weight room! 

The QB room is probably right where this staff wants it, a good strong competition between 2 young QB's.  I doubt that they are able to tell you right now who the starter will be.  TG has been here a year, but he has been in a different system. AM is probably the guy they want to start, but I have a feelng this staff isnt going to rush that.  Unlike staffs that we have had in the past, they will not be married to one QB.  I also believe we could see some double duty.  IMO.  

Unfortunately this looks like a wait and see.  Fall camp is much more important and indicative of things to come than spring football.  

On 7/9/2018 at 7:33 AM, ADS said:

 

Nice. 

On 6/27/2018 at 3:30 PM, Mavric said:

 

It might depend on if they watched the Spring Game or not.

 

HuskerBoard has taken (at least) two polls on this.  In the first poll (pre-Spring Game), Gebbia got 62 votes, Martinez got 21 and POB got 16.  However, after the Spring Game, Martinez got 103 votes to Gebbia's 34.

Can we find those 16 people who voted for POB? They might be voted off the island. 

1 hour ago, teachercd said:

NW will be an easy money game.

14 hours ago, Treand3 said:

They have and we it may be close again...but we winning.

 

Appreciate it..One of my favorite characters.

 

 

Maybe we do lose a game we shouldn't. .but it won't be NW. Not losing to these dudes two years in a row. 

I think we have to look at the 2018 Huskers as a team that will hopefully be trending upward by the end of the year.   The true sign of a good coach is can his team get better from game 1 to game 2 and so on and so forth.  Diagnosing what the teams issues are and putting people in the right place.  I think its funny that they are ranking players 1 - 40.  You never know whats going to happen once the bullets start flying.  So players will swing their sword and some players who only look good on paper will not.  Its that simple.  Can we revisit in end of October?

11 minutes ago, Treand3 said:

 

We're beating NW. 

If you look at the past games, its been pretty close. Your avatar is amazing.  

6 minutes ago, BIG ERN said:

Our mentality this year will be light years ahead of what it has been. There are actually some talent issues with us that will be taken care of within a year 

This was in response to us being more talented than Northwestern.  

3 minutes ago, junior4949 said:

You are exactly right.  However, don't we have better talent than Northwestern?  Would you consider our coach decent, or above decent?  When I look at their predictions, I'm more concerned with Purdue and Michigan State that they have as W's than I am about Northwestern and Iowa that they have as L's. 

Talent wise we may be better, but mentality wise...our players are not up to snuff. 

52 minutes ago, Saunders said:

I think NW is probably going to be the most overrated team in the B1G this year. Justin Jackson is gone, and Thorson is just blah.

I agree, but they will always be that 7-4 team that is tough.  Their coach is decent. 

On 6/3/2018 at 1:44 PM, Making Chimichangas said:

1. This thread was started July 1, 2015.

2. It is currently at 18 pages.

3. The discussion is regarding Nebraska's apparel provider.

 

  

 

 

I had the same thought when i opened the thread.  

13 hours ago, Making Chimichangas said:

 

Ya, that's the rub...every recruit, in every class, at every school, is the next all-american, all-everything, stud...until they aren't.

EXACTLY! Lol.  

I will always take mentality over speed, bench press, vertical jump, broad jump, etc.  I think this generation of husker fans has become infatuated with stats and star rankings.  

9 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

That's not what you said.  You specifically said "....but I think we are moving to an era where individual players dont matter as much as team chemistry and scheme."

 

Nothing in that statement says anything about...picking one.

 

I still wouldn't even want to pick one.  Just having one of those is a recipe for being close but no cigar.  We've seen that at times over the last 15 years. 

What exactly have we been close to?  I would make the argument that we have had neither.  

18 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

No.

 

Both matter.  If you have only one of those, you can have a good team.  If you have BOTH, that's when you have a great team.

But if you had to pick one?

12 minutes ago, brophog said:

 

I dont. Talent turns scheme from 5 yds to 50.

How can you be a talent if you havent touched the field? 

There is no argument that you need talent, but I would not trade talent for team chemistry.  Football is a violent sport that results in injury. There has to be a next man up mentality or you will lose a lot of games.  Like we have.  

If kids dont want to play at Nebraska, they should go somewhere else. 

16 hours ago, Making Chimichangas said:

 

I just did...

 

And you're the one expressing incredulity that Willie Hampton got a scholarship, like you have some kind of clairvoyance.  So don't get snotty...

Kids leave all the time. D1 recruit does not always translate to D1 player. I cant get excited/sad about any kids who didnt get significant playing time. 

I always see a lot of whining and crying about individual players, but I think we are moving to an era where individual players dont matter as much as team chemistry and scheme.  

:51 and 1:27

Dude gives it up. 

On 1/18/2018 at 7:52 AM, B.B. Hemingway said:

Yeah, Drew Brown was great, but when your kicker is at the top of a list like this you're not losing much. I'd probably move Weber up the list a couple spots even.

On 1/18/2018 at 7:48 AM, BIG ERN said:

No disrespect, but I've never seen an easier 5 to replace going into next season. 

I agree that Drew Brown is going to be the toughest to replace.  Its so sad to even utter those words.

I would not move #49 up on that list at all.  I could make the argument that he was the reason for most of the big run plays.  Slow and stiff.  

On 1/7/2018 at 9:04 PM, Making Chimichangas said:

 

Add to that bulletin board:

 

Down 42-7 to Oregon at halftime

Lost to Northern Illinois

Lost to Wisconsin by 20

Lost to Ohio State by 42

Lost to Minnesota by 33

Trailed Penn State 42-10 at halftime

Lost to Iowa by 35

Just when I was starting to feel good about our program, you had to remind me.  LOL

26 minutes ago, husker98 said:

Disappointed to see none of that money is being spent at runzas or taco bell. 

 

No wonder we aren't winning games.

Top 5 post this week! 

1 hour ago, Moiraine said:

It seems to be more the combination of bellies and tiny arms. But it's not normal to see huge bulging bicep muscles when arms are hanging at the sides. Here's a photo of the Alabama offensive line:

 

 

 

This is more to do with our OL being bad, and people looking for reasons why it's bad. Maybe the workouts can improve, but I think it's more to do with coaching

I think we will see a more lean and athletic o-line. 

8 hours ago, brophog said:

 

We saw them do exactly that at UCF. The problem, as we will see vs Auburn, is when a defense can make up numbers with superior talent. 

Box count is box count. You can account for talent in certain areas in that front 7.  Multiple ways to attack means not depending one matchup.  If you are out matched in a area, you attack another area. 

11 hours ago, Landlord said:

If the offense goes through growing pains in year one, I'm calling it now - it's gonna be the Tim Beck criticisms all over again. 'Too multiple!' 'Why do they do that looking to the sideline stuff?' 'Quit getting too cute and going away from what's working', etc.

I liked some of what Beck did, I like the 'check" with me nascar and indy stuff. Its affective.  I just dont think Taylor Martinez was affective enough in the passing game.

1 minute ago, billdozer15 said:

All I know is with as seasoned as the offensive line is, they had better figure it out. 

I am curious to see how they handle the O-line.  Scott Frost teams have done a lot of zone blocking that doesn't require incredibly good o-linemen.  Yes the pull, so athleticism is more important than size and strength. 

I think the roster will be shaken up more than you think.  Its gonna be a wild few next months.  Kids will leave, this staff will weed out all non hackers. Im confident of that. 

I think POB/Gebbia with the addition of Adrian Martinez is a nice cupboard of QB's for what this staff is trying to do. 

Tanner Lee is on the outside looking in for sure. Id be surprised if he is here for the Spring. 

On 12/12/2017 at 8:43 AM, Cdog923 said:

I've noticed quite a bit in discussions on both what the offense next year will look like and in recruiting that it's a certainty that Frost needs a "run-first" QB to make his offense work at a high level. Look at the stats, though, and that seems to be a bit of a fallacy. For comparison's sake, let's look at the rushing attempts and completion percentage of QBs at Oregon and UCF during Frost's tenure at both places, and how that might affect how he wants his QB room to look at Nebraska. 

 

Frost as WR coach:

2009: Jeremiah Masoli - 12 games/121 attempts (10 att/game) (58% completion)

2010: Darron Thomas - 12 games/93 att (7 att/g) (61.5%)

2011: Darron Thomas - 13 games/56 att (4 att/g) (62.2%)

2012: Marcus Mariota - 13 games/106 att (8 att/g) (68.5%)

 

Frost as OC: 

2013: Marcus Mariota - 13 games/96 att (7 att/g) (63.5%)

2014: Marcus Mariota - 15 games/135 att (9 att/g) (68.3%)

2015: Vernon Adams - 10 games/83 att (8 att/g) (64.9%)

           Jeff Locke - 5 games/61 att (12 att/g) (61.6%)

 

Frost as HC: 

2016: McKenzie Milton - 10 games/100 att (10 att/g) (57.7%)

2017: McKenzie Milton - 12 games/93 att (8 att/g) (69.2%)

 

On average, offenses that Frost has been involved with (or that have inspired his offense, if you will) have ran the QB around 8 times a game (or 2 times per quarter), with a completion percentage hovering in the mid 60s. Compare and contrast that with QBs that we have seen at Nebraska:

 

Tommy Armstrong - 45 games/423 att (9.4 att/g) (53.3%)

Taylor Martinez - 44 games/585 att (13 att/g) (59.8%)

Joe Ganz - 24 games/115 att (5 att/g) (65.1%) 

                  - 2008: 12 games/92 att (7 att/g) (68%)

Jammal Lord - 39 games/516 att (13 att/g) (48%)

Eric Crouch - 43 games/648 att (15 att/g) (51.5%)

Scott Frost - 24 games/302 att (13 att/g) (53.5%)

Tommie Frazier - 35 games/342 att (10 att/g) (49.5%)

 

My conclusion is this: I don't believe that Frost's offense absolutely needs a Taylor Martinez to be successful; I think it needs a Joe Ganz. Put someone back there with a completion percentage in the 60s while also being able to run the zone read/designed run an average of one to two times a quarter. I think that both Gebbia and POB can do this, should they be called upon next year.

 

Cdog923, for the win! Great post! 

The stats really put it all in perspective.  I didnt read all of the responses, but I certainly want to put my 2 cents in : ) 

POB did not look bad running the ball, but it will be interested to see what happens with Adrian Martinez.  The only concern with Gebbia is his body type for running the ball 8-10 times a game.  I guess time will tell.  I just hope there is a good competition in the spring, thats what will make that position better.  

Frosts offense is an option offense that attacks the safeties. Safeties have to fit in the run game and also account for deep threats in the pass game, this is why "option" football still exists.  Option football does not mean running your QB 15-20 times a game.  The mere threat of the option can manipulate the defense and turn in to big plays for the offense.  A safety steps down to fit on the zone read, and a slot WR gets in behind him and there is your 70 yard TD.  You still have to run the ball well and attack all the zones.  This scheme will take pressure off of the O line as well.