AFhusker

 

We also don't know if Leia Organa dies in episode 8, either. I sincerely doubt it, but it could be possible.

 

A lot of episode 9 obviously depends on what her role is in 8. Perhaps they were going to shy away from her already, but I doubt it given she is one of the central characters in the universe. It's very possible they could end up altering her screen time and role in 8 because of her passing.

 

One thing I don't want to see, and I don't think they'll do it, is recast.

 

I don't think they'll recast either. One problem is if she and Luke haven't reunited they need to deal with Luke's mourning her, if they do go with her character dying. And if her character's death wasn't planned (I doubt it was - Han was enough) then it makes whoever killed her even more hated. So if they have it be caused directly by Kylo it makes him a lot less redeemable. Not that he's super redeemable after killing Han.

 

I read in an article on Yahoo that she was supposed to be in IX too. They brought up the chance that they may use a hologram like they did for Gov Tarkin in VII. She was done filming all of her scenes for VIII, it is now a matter if they try the hologram route or kill her off "between" movies to explain as to why she isn't in it. Or maybe she goes into hiding...they could handle it in many ways.

 

 

Why would we focus more on our military when we don't really use much of it and on border security when more people are illegally leaving this country than entering it annually?

I think a big part of it has to do with part of our culture and fear.

 

We already spend more on defense than the next 7-8 countries combined, yet we have political figures (like Trump) who bully for higher spending, increased troops and aircraft.

 

I'm all for improving the lives of our veterans, but I don't think I can be convinced that we need to expand our military even more. We would already stomp the world if we needed to.

 

Agree 100%. We currently don't seem capable to support the veterans we have, why would we want to expand the amount of veterans we have?

 

You guys are confused as it pertains about cutting military spending. The cuts shouldn't come from peoples entitlements, it should come from the many projects that spend an astronomical amount on crap that either doesn't pan out or is in some cases decades behind schedule. But the lobbyists (both sides of the isle) pay "our" representatives off to keep those black holes funded. So to cut spending a$$hole$ like McCain who leads the committee that proposes such things to the president and congress that recommended cutting veterans benefits while the companies behind these "black hole" projects get wealthier. That is where Trump rightfully criticized McCain and his treatment of the military. He has pretty much stabbed us in the back. Typically the Dems (rightfully so) catch hell from the military because they have historically been the party that has concentrating on taking away or reducing military benefits, but at least on the latest round, it was McCain who hypocritically suggested deep cuts in Housing and other entitlements that he received while being on active duty that were eventually taken out of the proposed budget.

 

Gerry failed himself and the program - not the other way around.

 

The program provides all the tutors, computers, escorts to class and etc and he still got less than a 2.0 (anything above 2.0 and he would have been elegible). He had to really go above and beyond to fail, and he made the conscious decision to do so. He only had to get 6 credit hours at D or above and didn't.

 

You can read through all the posts here (and I think there is another thread on the same topic) - there are folks that know him or had him in class, know someone in the program, and their insight should change your impression.

 

Agreed ... but if it is a 0.0 GPA ... you get this guy out of leadership, out of practices, off the field ... never in a game, etc. 0.0 to me means you fat, drunk and stupid ... and we don't bring in kids on scholarship to play football and not earn a degree. Not here to debate ... I just don't get it. I'm questioning the post more then anything at this point.

 

It's more about someone who is all about himself and thinking that he's going to the NFL.

 

Gerry hasnt cared since the end of the 2014 season.

Sadly, I think this may be correct.

 

A 0.0 GPA pretty much proves that.

 

 

Last year, I only felt embarassed by Miami and Purdue. The rest we were winning until something stupid happened. By the time we lost to Iowa it was clear Iowa was on a run and we still outplayed them. This year, not so much.

Lowered expectations. Many of those losses were embarassing because our experienced coaching staff couldn't figure out how to manage the clock or call time outs and they never should have happened. Iowa was embarrassing because our offensive coordinator literally threw the game away.

 

Way more embarrassing than losing to Iowa state, A&M, or T Tech.

Arguing whose losses are more embarrassing is like arguing if you'd rather contract ebola or malaria - either way, you're going to have a bad time.

 

+1

I would rather NU not get their assess kicked like that no matter who the coach is. The sad truth is that all four coaches since Tom have had embarrassing losses and your last line nailed trying to compare the different levels of embarrassment that came from them.

 

 

 

 

It means nothing...

Sadly...so does the current hire

Yet he's one win away from having a better season than Bo did in 7 years....even with two blowout losses.

See how easy that was?

10-3 without a conference championship game is not better than 10-4 with a conference championship loss.

That said this is Riley's 2nd season.

Better is a relative term. In this example, is it better to eat a dog turd from Labrador or from a Golden Retriever? 10-3 without a CCG or 10-4 and embarrassingly blown out in CCG.......I might take the 10-3 personally. So Labrador turd it is.

Yeah, but Bo also had 10-4 seasons with agonizingly close losses in Big 12 championship games. I would say those are both better than the best Riley season so far.

 

Bo was just fortunate that Billy C left him nfl talent while Bo left a team of guys who may not get drafted at all. If they do it may be the last day, which also says a lot about the level of coaching we are getting now compared to Bo's staff. Let's see how MR preforms once he raises the talent level to where it should be then compare Bo's best season's with MR's.

I really don't give a flying rip what networks predicted outcomes wrong.

 

Most of America along with just about every prediction service had it wrong.

 

So what???? Are you trying to claim that all of these wrong sites are now some form of liberal propaganda machine???

 

If so, you have lost all sense of reality.

 

I suppose now we should all just go watch Fox News because they are do awesome and they are do fair and balanced.

Are you saying that you don't see the obvious bias that every network minus Fox has against any Republican? (And yes Fox is just as bad in the other direction) Not to mention the collusion that CNN and others had with the DNC and the Clinton campaign during both the primaries and the general election is an embarrassment and that is the definition of corrupt liberal bias.The media is a joke because they hate anything republican and got caught with their biased ways, so Trump tweets to bypass them. I would do the same thing if I was in his shoes, why take the abuse from a bunch of liberal hacks that try to state that they are not bias when the evidence shows otherwise.

Now they once again want to show fake moral outrage for another topic that isn't true. Where was the outrage when the DNC was caught paying people to start fights at Trump rallies? They can't accept that they lost, so now it's Russia's fault that they lost. Now we have a POTUS wasting taxpayer dollars investigating something that was proven didn't happen months ago with no new evidence to come forward. If he was that worried about it, why not investigate it months ago? Or why wasn't it big deal when five foreign nations were able to hack into Hillary's illegal server that had national security info in them? But no, he lost, his legacy lost, and the Dems got slapped around last month because their elitist "we are smarter than you are and if you don't agree with us then you are a homophobe, racist, or sexist" attitude is out of touch with the country. Instead of losing gracefully, they bring up a bogus conspiracy theory which only makes them look worse to anyone that has half a brain.

Dems (as in elected officials, not anyone on here) need to grow a pair, admit that they are wrong and screwed this election up and get in touch with reality. If not then they are going to be in worse condition than the R's were in 2012.

 

 

 

 

 

Ohio State: Coaching

• The kids were obviously rattled by what happened. Calming the kids down and getting them focused is where they earn their pay.
• Langsdorf set the kids up to fail as soon as Tommy was knocked out.

 

Wasn't the team already down like 31 - 3 with wheels coming off in all directions when Tommy got hurt?

 

No actually they were driving to bring it within striking distance. After Tommy got hurt around tOSU 20 yard line. We were stopped on a 4th down, and tOSU drove the field and went up another TD. It was a 14 point swing in about 2 minutes of gametime. It was a crusher in multiple ways. Then halftime, and tOSU had the ball to start at halftime and the rest is history.

 

 

No. They were already down four touchdowns. Tommy stays healthy and the game is perhaps 55 - 10. 48 - 17 at best. The ass-kicking was well in progress. We were in a similar "striking distance" scenario against Iowa, and the odds against Ohio State were worse.

 

Nebraska had little margin of error to begin with, and went downhill quick. Also, Ohio State was having a perfect storm of a game, coming off a wake-up call and a loss and totally dialed in at every level.

 

Not true. They were driving to potentially make it 24-10, and have some momentum. Would they have won the game with Tommy, no. But they wouldn't have lost by 60 points. That was a back breaker of all back breakers. To be driving to potentially bring the game within reach, to losing your starting QB and leader, to not making a 4th and short, to tOSU driving and scoring just before half. It was about 5 minutes of game time that broke their will.

 

 

So isn't having no back up QB part of a lack of talent? Honestly I think TA would have been benched in that game if he wasn't hurt as he was playing pathetically in that game. 99% of our issues right now are because of a lack of talent, we don't call certain plays because our QB who has a heart of a champion but can't read a defense to save his life. Our LB's stink, DL gets worn out due to lack of depth, which leads to no pass rush and our DB's having to cover guys forever. Not to mention the 3 walk-ons that we started on the OL for most of the year. And these aren't the All American walk-ons talent level that we had under Tom, these were guys that shouldn't have been used for anything more than a scout team at best.

If in 3-4 years we are still in this situation then feel free to call it coaching, but as of now the only logical answer is the lack of talent that Bo left MR and co.

Important to note that Stanton started at UNLV but was injured in September. The backup did better than him and started the rest of the year.

 

 

He was benched at UNLV

 

 

This tells you how well the previous staff recruited.

Sounds a lot like Joe Dailey when he went to Duke.

 

please explain specifically roster mismanagement at the QB position over the last 4 years.

Yeah, I don't get that either. I think we have recruited the QB well after Martinez (nothing against him). The only issues about recruiting would be getting guys with too different of skill sets and missing on Burrow. Development has been an issue though, so that may be something to gripe about.

 

We didn't "miss" on Burrow, Bo's staff ignored him on his official visit and he went to Ohio State. That is just more proof that they were crappy recruiters as they screwed the pooch on that one and all of the other guys that they recruited sucked as it has been proven in later posts after yours in this thread and that is why we are in this situation.

IMO their problem was that they thought they could "coach up" any player to B1G level caliber play and it is ok to have some of those guys on your roster, but they can't be the overwhelmingly majority as they were under Bo. He hated the recruiting game and pandering to high school kids to come here, so he didn't do it and used the excuse that it is too hard to recruit difference makers to come to Nebraska which it total bs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Welcome back, who ever you are. Maybe if you would have spent more time around here your post may have some bearing in reality. Pretty much everything you said was not true.

And anyone that believes we need to fire the staff over 3 losses need to figure out just where you want our program to go.

Hmmm. Maybe you should pass this info off to a couple of guys who are or were our athletic directors.

Changing coaches evey few years DOES NOT WORK.

At least this point is relevant.

There's been quite a few troll posts around here lately. What's up with that?

Stop. Pelini dug his own hole and Frankie was twiddling around a hole he shouldn't have been. They set up their own guillotines.

What?

Pelini was a dick to his bosses and refused to alter his staff when complacency set in. Then he turned on everyone besides his staff and players.

Frank let his staff run amuck if you will, while he had dabbled in extra carricular activities of his own.

That pretty much sums it up.

Don't really care about that stuff.

You said what in response to them diggin their own holes, I summed it up.

 

You may not care about it, but that's why they were fired. They led themselves to the guillotine, not their records. Let's make that clear.

Apparently Urban Meyer wasn't buying that back when Solich was fired.

 

No, Urban was smart enough to know that he would be taking over a team that didn't have very much talent with zero difference makers. Combine that with a fan base who had unrealistic expectations at the time and you will find the root cause of why nobody wanted the job.

Here's the thing, guys. The election is over now. We aren't campaigning for one candidate or another's votes anymore. We don't own any of this stuff that's going on.

 

But we *can* draw a straight line from what we heard and saw in campaign messages and at rallies, to these things of the exact same tenor. We can look at that, see it for what it is, and push back against it. Together.

 

I was told and do believe that most Republicans even in the Trump camp, they had their reasons but they absolutely rejected this stuff. I really believe that there's more decency than not in this world.

 

Here's our chance to come together and show it. This wing, this element of Trumpism -- that's not us, liberal, conservative, libertarian, what-have-you. Yes?

I hope we can, but to get that started the left has to stop branding everyone that disagrees with them as "ists" or is something doesn't go the way they think it should, it isn't because of an "ism" or that group of people are not "phobes."

The part that worries me is that it seems that the Dem's didn't learn as to why they lost, instead of doing some real soul searching, they have gone further left which will lead to them getting their butts handed to them in the 2018 mid term election. They need to push the younger people to lead the party and reelecting Pelosi was the worst thing they could do. She is 76 and way out of touch with the American people as are the Dems as a party. Their only way back is to come back closer to the center and that isn't happening. Forget about Sanders, Warren and Pelosi as leaders as they will put you even further in the toilet by further classifying everyone and blaming losing on everyone but themselves. People don't like whiny sore losers.

Here's a good article about the problems that the Dem's have right now:

I'm a Democrat but Clinton staffer Jennifer Palmieri's twisted logic is exactly why we lost

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/12/08/im-democrat-but-clinton-staffer-jennifer-palmieris-twisted-logic-is-exactly-why-lost.html

With that being said the Reps haven't learned either, the far right is just as bad as the left and the only reason that they won was because a lifelong Dem ran as an Rep since he knew that the Dems were going to make Hillary their nominee no matter who ran. The country needs the Dems to come back to the center and win some seats in 2018 because if one side (no matter which one) has all the power will pull the country too far in their direction. There needs to be checks and balances and that won't happen if the Dem's are still going to follow the three stooges that I mentioned above.

I'd go back in time and see what Solich/Pelini would've done with 2 more years together.

They probably have a few more bad recruiting classes and still get fired. But I agree with you because of the 2003 season's record people needed to see another poor year under Frank to get everyone to accept that he needed to be fired. It was justified when it happened, but it was obviously handled very poorly due to Peterson's arrogance and ignorance. It is very likely that 2004/2005 wouldn't have been great years for us and then the timing would have been better to let Frank and company go for everyone involved.

That is how a leader (AD) is supposed to handle these situations because you have to look at the issue from all angles, not just the emotional one of getting blown out vs any team with a pulse and beating bad teams. Unfortunately we are still not out of that rut 16 years later.

 

I say Craig Bohl after one more year at WY, he has excelled as a head coach. His players play like they have a chip on their shoulders. They play like they want to win, he also seems to develop talent! QB's at ND State!

Might want to re-watch the 2001 NU-CU game (Warning-keep a bucket handy) and realize he was mostly responsible for our defensive performance in that game.

 

Yep, he was a terrible DC here as he wasted a ton of talent that Charlie left him. One of the worst individual calls ever made by a DC was against KSU in their place on a 3rd and long (I believe it was like 17 or so) at their own 3 and he played a prevent defense instead of bringing pressure. They got the first down and ran out the clock for what I believe was their second strait win against us in Mancrappin.

He like Frank and Bo seem to do well at lower levels, which is great for them as there is nothing wrong with having success at lower levels of CFB. With that being said, it doesn't mean they were a good fit for NU at the time or now.

HC Bob Devaney

OC Tom Osborne

DC Charlie McBride

 

GA Bo Pelini

/Thread

 

I'd like to see graphs like this for each of the last say 10 years and compare it with final season results. I would guess 9 out of 10 NC teams are in the elite talent category

No question talent is important. But so are all the other things I mentioned above.

 

Because talent doesn't exist in a vacuum.

 

Yes you are correct that all of that stuff matters, but talent is the most important of those factors. It doesn't matter how good your coach is if you don't have the talent to run your schemes on the field. Yes sometimes coaching can cause a team to not preform up to it's talent level and sometimes good coaching can cause players to over preform their talent level for stretches. But to win on a consistent basis, the team with the most talent is going to win in spite of good or bad coaching. A good example of this is Mac Brown's career at Texass. The guy was a terrible game day coach, but won only because of the talent that he had.

Hasn't Clemson's defense been pretty poor this year?

Yes it has and it is the reason they are about to get taken behind the same woodshed we did when we played Ohio State.

 

 

We lost three games this year. Clearly OSU is at another level right now yo us.

 

Michigan is a question mark. They can be really good but I don't see them quite at the same level as OSU yet.

 

I think we can play with and beat everyone else.

 

We lost to Wisconsin on the road in over time. I don't see why they are so much better than us.

 

The Iowa game was just plain pathetic. Winning that game clearly meant more to their players. On top of that, our running QB couldn't run. That's a huge problem for an offense that relies on your QB to run.

 

PSU lost a game early they shouldn't have just like us.

 

I don't think we are that far behind them.

Michigan dominated OSU for 3 quarters. They aren't a question mark. Just because they lost a game when they didn't have their starting QB doesn't put a question mark behind them, imo.

 

Also regarding PSU. Losing early and improving like crazy is completely different from folding late, which is what NU did. That's not even remotely comparable. NU got worse through the year. Penn State got 100x better.

 

You misunderstood my "question mark" on Michigan. I'm not sold on them being quite at the level of OSU yet. Proof of that is that OSU was able to come back and beat them. Still with Harbaugh, Michigan hasn't won any championships.

 

Yes, they are better than us right now.....and...they are closer to OSU than we are to them. From there, I'm not sure exactly how far behind we are from them.

 

No...I'm not sold on that PSU is head and shoulders above us. We took Wisconsin to overtime when our players were mostly healthy. Wisconsin was winning that game by 21 at one point.

 

I still say we are in the ball park of Wisconsin, PSU and Iowa.

 

I want to see Michigan next year after they lose around 17-18 starters either to graduation or the draft. Then Harbaugh will have to use the guys he recruited as all of Hoke's guys are gone after the bowl game. I see them taking a tempory step back to the pack next year until they get the young guys some experience.

 

What needs to change? TALENT. Notice how their o-lines open up holes and how their backs explode out of the backfield for big gains (talking about last night's championship)? Now go back to last week and think of a time we did that against Iowa. No holes and Newby falls down the first time he's touched. See the issue? We don't have enough difference makers. Certainly not on either line. How can we compete when we don't have enough talent?

 

Talent is the obvious answer. Who watched the championship games yesterday and thought we had the same talent those other teams had? Anybody? Even our strength and conditioning guru has said we're a few years away from the big boys. Did you watch Alabama? Who cracks their two deep from our team? Nobody. Who cracks the two deep on Clemson from our team? Nobody. Washington? Ohio State?

 

Now I'm reading posts saying we better compete next year for the West title. With what? With our brand new, lights out defensive ends? Our new linebacking corp? How about our "Lockdown U" secondary that got torched by OSU? Our brand new QB? The same bums on the o-line? Who are these difference makers who weren't good enough to see the field this season? On paper, we're a 6 win team next season with a bunch of new/young players. We need to be patient while Riley brings us some horses and coaches them up.

 

During the Iowa game, I heard the announcer say that we were the best fourth quarter team in the country. Then Bellotti, the color guy said this, "Yeah, if it's still a game by then." Who else heard that? Even the announcers know we're not very good. We hear the digs every week, but there are a lot of us who are blind to this. We are a middle Big Ten team who hasn't won a conference championship since 2001. Let that reality sink in. Temper your unrealistic expectations. When you do, you'll be less frustrated.

 

Now let's get behind Riley and this staff because the alternative is firing him and setting the program back even further.

They also bagged on our offensive play calling.....no disagreeing with you at all. We have several issues. Talent, coaching, lack of development......Cav and his "chemistry" theory over making a good OL...... works unless we have injuries, or no depth or lack of talent....Langs and his play calling.....

 

An OC is limited in his playcalling with limited talent on the OL, combine that with a QB to refuses to throw the ball just to move the chain and you get a very limited playbook. Hopefully starting next year with better OL talent and hopefully a QB who can read a defense and take what is open to keep drives alive will be a huge improvement alone. Then on Defense we have no depth on the DL or LB's, so we can't practice physical because we are screwed if any of them get hurt. I am sure Parella wants his boys to get nasty like we were when he played, but he also realizes that he needs to recruit more horses so they can practice like they need to.

 

PSU are B1G champs. Hope one day i get to say we are the champs, not sure it will be anytime soon unfortunately, but i hope i am wrong.

 

I think PSU shows it's achievable... although their recruiting is usually above ours.

 

I remember when PSU was going through the Paterno crap and a lot of Nebraska fans saying that they were thankful that NU was on the rise at the time and glad that we weren't in PSU's position with the sanctions. Well they just won their first B1G Championship game and we are still waiting.

They get Riley, and we get frost. How would you feel about that? I think most oregon fans would be disappointed and most nebraska fans would be happy

They wouldn't be happy for long.

Certainly a factor that contributed to our lack of sacks was Tommy's mobility. To say that that was THE reason we were as good as we were, or to try and specifically document exactly how much of it was his legs vs other factors, is pretty silly.

 

Regardless, let's say the Maryland game was an accurate barometer of our line's real ability. That's still miles ahead of what Tanner was dealing with at Tulane. His line was like 2005 Nebraska, Zac Taylor getting smoked on every. single. pass. play. levels of bad.

Well said as there were times that we had the short routes open that could have gained yardage and moved the chains that TA wouldn't even look at throwing to. That is one easy way for a QB to make up for a lack of mobility.

How is Tennessee still ranked?

How is anyone in the SEC other than Alabama still ranked? They all (or will after this weekend) have 4 losses. That is pretty crappy when only one team in an entire conference will end up with less than 4 losses.

2016 Total Defense #22 351 Yds/Game
2016 Scoring Defense #30 22.8 Pts/Game
Sagarin SOS #55

2015 Total Defense #64 400.4 Yds/Game
2015 Scoring Defense #76 27.8 Pts/Game
Sagarin SOS #49

2014 Total Defense #52 383.7 Yds/Game
2014 Scoring Defense #59 26.4 Pts/Game
Sagarin SOS #61

2013 Total Defense #40 370.8 Yds/Game
2013 Scoring Defense #50 24.8 Pts/Game
Sagarin SOS #55

2012 Total Defense #35 350.64 Yds/Game
2012 Scoring Defense #58 27.57 pts/Game
Sagarin SOS #20

2011 Total Defense #37 350.69 Yds/Game
2011 Scoring Defense #42 23.38 Yds/Game
Sagarin SOS #26


2010 Total Defense #11 306.79 Yds/Game
2010 Scoring Defense #9 7.36 Pts/Game
Sagarin SOS #39

2009 Total Defense #7 272 Yds/Game
2009 Scoring Defense #1 10.43 Yds/Game
Sagarin SOS #52

 

I will say however that we currently have the better younger talent that hasn't gotten their time on the field yet.

 

Yeah, we have some O-line and D-line guys coming off redshirt seasons that should help out. The lines, on both sides of the ball, are the biggest areas we need to improve in. IMHO

 

Consistent QB and LB play would help a lot too.