The Boat is taking on water....
I don't think there's anything newsworthy here. Fleck will always be running a decently effective program that is in no way prepared to compete at the highest levels. The fanbase is bad, the money is bad, and I think his style relies heavily on guys with a chip on their shoulder rather than a ton of talent. Good enough to beat up on dysfunctional programs like we have been, but never going to compete consistently with Iowa let alone Oregon/OSU/Indiana now. That type of program won't be able to keep the high-end talent that it stumbles into. Most of the fans I know were convinced he would never leave because he's from a small town there, but money and championship aspirations are way better elsewhere.
That's the point, though. They have lost two guys this week that are legitimate talents.
How many of the Athletic Departments outside of the P5 are breaking even?We wouldn't win basketball championships even with that, and we're already top of the food chain for volleyball. I think our volleyball program is still the only one turning a profit, and only a handful of women's basketball teams do. I don't think our women's bball team would turn a profit even if they were legitimate title contenders, it's a bad investment. Basketball makes money but not like football does.
Scott Frost WR recruiting and development may rival our current defensive line.
Frost's results were bad. But it wasn't just him. Our receiver recruiting for over a decade is mostly pathetic:
2025:
Cortez Mills - 9 catches, 147 yards, 1 TD
Jackson Carpenter - redshirted
2024:
Keelan Smith - 3 catches, 22 yards
Dae'Vonn Hall - 0 receptions
Isaiah McMorris - 0 receptions
Quinn Clark - 5 catches, 132 yards, 1 TD
Jacory Barney - 100 catches, 931 yards, 5 TDs; 15 carries, 150 yards, 3 TDs
2023:
Jaidyn Doss - 2 catches, 20 yards
Malachi Coleman - 8 catches, 139 yards, 1 TD
Jaylen Lloyd - 19 catches, 492 yards, 3 TDs; 7 carries, 12 yards
D'Andre Barnes - 0 catches
Demitrius Bell - 0 catches
2022:
Victor Jones - 0 recpetions
Decoldest Crawford - 0 receptions
Janiran Bonner - 13 catches, 76 yards, 1 TD; 8 carries, 24 yards, 2 TDs
2021:
Shawn Hardy - 0 receptions
Latrell Neville - 0 recpetions
Kamonte Grimes - 0 receptions
2020:
Zavier Betts - 32 catches, 417 yards, 1 TD; 3 carries, 109 yards, 1 TD; 52 kick return yards
William Nixon - 1 catch, 5 yards
Alante Brown - 22 catches, 262 yards
2019:
Wan'Dale Robinson - 91 catches, 914 yards, 3 TDs; 134 carries, 580 yards, 4 TDs; 236 kick return yards
Jamie Nance - 0 receptions
Darien Chase - 1 catch, 13 yards
Demariyon Houston - 0 receptions
2018:
Justin McGriff - 0 receptions
Andre Hunt - 0 receptions
2017:
Jaevon McQuitty - 2 catches, 14 yards
Tyjon Lindsey - 15 catches, 98 yards
2016:
Derrion Grim - 0 receptions
JD Spielman - 170 catches, 2,546 yards, 15 TDs; 216 punt return yards, 2 TDs; 838 kick return yards, 1 TD
2015:
Stanley Morgan - 189 catches, 2747 yards, 22 TDs
Lavon Alston - 0 receptions
2014:
Jariah Tolbert - 0 receptions
Demornay Pierson-El - 100 catches, 1309 yards, 11 TDs; 26 carries, 67 yards; 904 punt return yards, 3 TDs; 147 kick return yards
Glenn Irons - 0 receptions
2013:
Kevin Gladney - 0 receptions
If you add Oliver Martin it looks even worse.Frost's results were bad. But it wasn't just him. Our receiver recruiting for over a decade is mostly pathetic:
2025:
Cortez Mills - 9 catches, 147 yards, 1 TD
Jackson Carpenter - redshirted
2024:
Keelan Smith - 3 catches, 22 yards
Dae'Vonn Hall - 0 receptions
Isaiah McMorris - 0 receptions
Quinn Clark - 5 catches, 132 yards, 1 TD
Jacory Barney - 100 catches, 931 yards, 5 TDs; 15 carries, 150 yards, 3 TDs
2023:
Jaidyn Doss - 2 catches, 20 yards
Malachi Coleman - 8 catches, 139 yards, 1 TD
Jaylen Lloyd - 19 catches, 492 yards, 3 TDs; 7 carries, 12 yards
D'Andre Barnes - 0 catches
Demitrius Bell - 0 catches
2022:
Victor Jones - 0 recpetions
Decoldest Crawford - 0 receptions
Janiran Bonner - 13 catches, 76 yards, 1 TD; 8 carries, 24 yards, 2 TDs
2021:
Shawn Hardy - 0 receptions
Latrell Neville - 0 recpetions
Kamonte Grimes - 0 receptions
2020:
Zavier Betts - 32 catches, 417 yards, 1 TD; 3 carries, 109 yards, 1 TD; 52 kick return yards
William Nixon - 1 catch, 5 yards
Alante Brown - 22 catches, 262 yards
2019:
Wan'Dale Robinson - 91 catches, 914 yards, 3 TDs; 134 carries, 580 yards, 4 TDs; 236 kick return yards
Jamie Nance - 0 receptions
Darien Chase - 1 catch, 13 yards
Demariyon Houston - 0 receptions
2018:
Justin McGriff - 0 receptions
Andre Hunt - 0 receptions
2017:
Jaevon McQuitty - 2 catches, 14 yards
Tyjon Lindsey - 15 catches, 98 yards
2016:
Derrion Grim - 0 receptions
JD Spielman - 170 catches, 2,546 yards, 15 TDs; 216 punt return yards, 2 TDs; 838 kick return yards, 1 TD
2015:
Stanley Morgan - 189 catches, 2747 yards, 22 TDs
Lavon Alston - 0 receptions
2014:
Jariah Tolbert - 0 receptions
Demornay Pierson-El - 100 catches, 1309 yards, 11 TDs; 26 carries, 67 yards; 904 punt return yards, 3 TDs; 147 kick return yards
Glenn Irons - 0 receptions
2013:
Kevin Gladney - 0 receptions
Negative, unlikely for anything until after Miami is done for the season. Only published crumble was him being included on a OWH list of potential targets from a week or two ago.Any word on Charmar Brown going anywhere? A quick google search had nothing.