Athlon: Big Ten Coaches Talk Anonymously About Conference Foes for 2016

[Landlord]

I think it's like when you want to remodel a house that looks pretty good on the surface, but then you discover black mold in the basement.

.......or

you hire a .500 coach and wonder why we went .500.

Sometimes a spade is a spade.

Guess we should have kept Frank Solich.

Whose HC record is very close to Riley's.

Sometimes context is everything.

But that obv doesn't count because he's coaching at Ohio.

Wait Riley coached at Oregon State?

Uh...hmm. Nothing to see here.

 

[TheSker]

I think it's like when you want to remodel a house that looks pretty good on the surface, but then you discover black mold in the basement.

.......or

you hire a .500 coach and wonder why we went .500.

Sometimes a spade is a spade.

Guess we should have kept Frank Solich.

Whose HC record is very close to Riley's.

Sometimes context is everything.

Feel free to use actual numbers (I believe it's .633 vs .532).....and maybe that's "very close" in your book.

Sometimes accuracy is everything.

 

[cm husker]

I think it's like when you want to remodel a house that looks pretty good on the surface, but then you discover black mold in the basement.

.......or
you hire a .500 coach and wonder why we went .500.

Sometimes a spade is a spade.

Guess we should have kept Frank Solich.

Whose HC record is very close to Riley's.

Sometimes context is everything.

Feel free to use actual numbers (I believe it's .633 vs .532).....and maybe that's "very close" in your book.
Sometimes accuracy is everything.

numbers and accuracy mean nothing to some. It's about feelings.

Feelings to a fact fight sums up many a husker discussion.

 

[Landlord]

Is the difference between 6-4 and 5-5 (respective percentages out of a 10 game sample size, for anyone that for some reason might jump on this part of the post) really what we're quibbling over now?

 

[Redux]

I think it's like when you want to remodel a house that looks pretty good on the surface, but then you discover black mold in the basement.

.......or
you hire a .500 coach and wonder why we went .500.

Sometimes a spade is a spade.

Guess we should have kept Frank Solich.

Whose HC record is very close to Riley's.

Sometimes context is everything.

Feel free to use actual numbers (I believe it's .633 vs .532).....and maybe that's "very close" in your book.
Sometimes accuracy is everything.

I'm sorry, but what exactly are you trying to prove? Seriously, you pop up once a week or so to throw your two cents in. Except it's the same two cents every time. Pro Tip: You're supposed to leave the pennies in the fountain, or else your wish won't come true.

Just a suggestion, let it go and enjoy the fact football is almost back.

 

[ADS]

Now I can see why The Dude never ventures in to the football forum. Thanks to all parties that made this thread an absolute dumpster fire.

 

[I AM FOOT FOOT]

Now I can see why The Dude never ventures in to the football forum. Thanks to all parties that made this thread an absolute dumpster fire.

nothing new here. kinda sad

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

I think it's like when you want to remodel a house that looks pretty good on the surface, but then you discover black mold in the basement.

.......or
you hire a .500 coach and wonder why we went .500.

Sometimes a spade is a spade.

Guess we should have kept Frank Solich.

Whose HC record is very close to Riley's.

Sometimes context is everything.

Feel free to use actual numbers (I believe it's .633 vs .532).....and maybe that's "very close" in your book.
Sometimes accuracy is everything.

numbers and accuracy mean nothing to some. It's about feelings.

Feelings to a fact fight sums up many a husker discussion.

Fact remains, Frank Solich was a .754 coach with the National Championship football dynasty he inherited, and became a .567 coach in his 11 seasons at Ohio, including a rough transition season, a modest turnaround of the program, followed by an up and down career never losing less than 4 games a season, and periodically losing 6, 7 or 8 games playing in the MAC, where he has yet to win a conference championship. I like Frank. He's a good coach.

Riley had a similar trajectory at Oregon State, inheriting what had long been considered one of the worst programs in college football, playing in the highly competitive Pac 12, where he ended with a .538 winning percentage, multiple upsets of Top 10 teams and 8 bowl games -- nearly half the total in the program's entire history. I like Mike. He's a good coach.

And as long as we've turned this thread into a dumpster fire, Bo Pelini brought his 9 win magic to Youngstown State, where he inherited a 7-5 team and coached them up to a 5-6 season. You could draw a sweeping negative conclusion from those numbers, or find another context in which you could rationalize them.

I have "a feeling" how you might respond.

 

[MichiganDad3]

"The problem with that is it’s Nebraska and they just ran the last guy out for winning nine games a year.”

I never understood the argument that firing Solich and Bo deterred other coaches from coming to Nebraska. I f Nebraska is firing above average coaches, then why aren't other schools snapping them up? If our ex coaches were so unjustly fired, then why aren't they at top 25 programs, or at least coaching at Power 5 schools?

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

"The problem with that is it’s Nebraska and they just ran the last guy out for winning nine games a year.”

I never understood the argument that firing Solich and Bo deterred other coaches from coming to Nebraska. I f Nebraska is firing above average coaches, then why aren't other schools snapping them up? If our ex coaches were so unjustly fired, then why aren't they at top 25 programs, or at least coaching at Power 5 schools?

Agree, the other Power 5 schools certainly haven't clamored for our unjustly fired coaches.

But surely there's some truth to coaches -- and coach's agents -- being concerned about the expectation level at Nebraska. It's always sexier to turnaround a lousy program with low expectations, or revitalize a legacy program coming off a bad season or two, but it's a harder sell to inherit a 9 win team, knowing you have to do better immediately. There are probably easier campuses to recruit to than Lincoln, and nicer places for your wife to live.

So if good coaches have choices -- and they do -- they might not put Nebraska on their list.

But there's certainly a reward for the coach who wants to refurbish Nebraska to greatness, and plenty of resources at his disposal. The coach we need will know all about the expectations and pressures at Nebraska, and take the job precisely because he likes the challenge. He may already be here -- Mike Riley could have retired as a legend in his hometown. Or he may be the young coach we need to recognize before he gets hot and in demand.

 

[Elf]

We have no way to get where we want to be... and anyone who's claiming we will improve in 3 or 4 years is full of it. There's absolutely no way to know where we are headed from here.

Two, maybe three, of those sentences contradict each other.

That's a Husker Psycho hallmark.

The name fits perfectly. Mike Riley is anything but dysfunctional. BP was dysfunctional.

Don't you dare try to put words in my mouth mister...

I said the "program"... I did not mention any particular person.

If you're going to quote me you better quote what I said... not some BS you made up.

Don't ever try to pull that on me again.

Oh...an Internet Tough Guy!

 

[Husker Psycho]

"The problem with that is it’s Nebraska and they just ran the last guy out for winning nine games a year.”

I never understood the argument that firing Solich and Bo deterred other coaches from coming to Nebraska. I f Nebraska is firing above average coaches, then why aren't other schools snapping them up? If our ex coaches were so unjustly fired, then why aren't they at top 25 programs, or at least coaching at Power 5 schools?

Great point

 

[cm husker]

"The problem with that is its Nebraska and they just ran the last guy out for winning nine games a year.

I never understood the argument that firing Solich and Bo deterred other coaches from coming to Nebraska. I f Nebraska is firing above average coaches, then why aren't other schools snapping them up? If our ex coaches were so unjustly fired, then why aren't they at top 25 programs, or at least coaching at Power 5 schools?

A myriad of reasons. Including smear campaigns.

 

[cm husker]

Mike Riley could have retired as a legend in his home town? That's an interesting take on his legacy there. And the fact there was talk he would be asked to move on or at least shake up his staff.

 

[Husker Psycho]

"The problem with that is it’s Nebraska and they just ran the last guy out for winning nine games a year.”

I never understood the argument that firing Solich and Bo deterred other coaches from coming to Nebraska. I f Nebraska is firing above average coaches, then why aren't other schools snapping them up? If our ex coaches were so unjustly fired, then why aren't they at top 25 programs, or at least coaching at Power 5 schools?

Agree, the other Power 5 schools certainly haven't clamored for our unjustly fired coaches.

But surely there's some truth to coaches -- and coach's agents -- being concerned about the expectation level at Nebraska. It's always sexier to turnaround a lousy program with low expectations, or revitalize a legacy program coming off a bad season or two, but it's a harder sell to inherit a 9 win team, knowing you have to do better immediately. There are probably easier campuses to recruit to than Lincoln, and nicer places for your wife to live.

So if good coaches have choices -- and they do -- they might not put Nebraska on their list.

But there's certainly a reward for the coach who wants to refurbish Nebraska to greatness, and plenty of resources at his disposal. The coach we need will know all about the expectations and pressures at Nebraska, and take the job precisely because he likes the challenge. He may already be here -- Mike Riley could have retired as a legend in his hometown. Or he may be the young coach we need to recognize before he gets hot and in demand.

No there's no truth to that at all.

There are no football programs with higher expectations than Alabama and Ohio State.

And yet those two programs attracted the two best coaches in college football.