Bo's Job Security - 2013(ish)

[TheSker]

Well they lost to Texas St. (ever hear of them? Me either.)

Yes, I've heard of Texas St. They weren't necessarily a good team......they do have a well known coach.

 

[NebraskaHarry]

it'd be interesting to see how many of you folks that think Bo's a d!(k or just feel entitled to winning championships went to the Gator Bowl. I did, and out of the few dozen fans I talked to, not one of them thought Bo was a bad coach for us- that said, another interesting thing (for me) was most of them were not from eastern Nebraska, but places like Texas, Georgia, Florida and California.(me included)

Could it be that wieners like Dirk Shatforbrains influence the views of eastern Nebraskans ? Seems like the further you are from the Weird Heralds reach, the more you appreciate what Bo has to put up with-

Of course, when I'm dealing with fools, I tell them to F-off too, so maybe that brash and honest behavior turns off the otiose, panty wearing part of our fan base. Who knows?

Here's one for you. I'm two states east (Illinois), played frosh ball at N in 72, and try to get back once a year for a game. Four years ago I bought a Yorkie pup (thinks he's a Rottweiler - I knock him around a bit, he loves to play ruff) and named him Bo Pelini Blackshirt Husker cuz I believed we were on our way back. I'm not delusional any longer. My question to you is "What more do we need to see?". Don't you get tired of constantly playing from behind? The game I came back for this year was the UCLA. 21 to 3 game, hey, finally an early lead against a decent foe; then came the 38 unanswered.

Don't you get fed up with the excuses? "Nobody mentions our injuries." "Frentz wouldn't have been flagged for that if he had done what I did." "All of this talk about my job has hurt our play."....

Don't you get tired of the turnovers (far more than any other team in this weak conference); the returners taking it out of the EZ only to get hammered at the 15 and then backed up half the distance cuz of penalties; the pre-snap disarray on both sides of the ball, the non fair catching at the 19 only to have it downed at the 1 then fair catching the next at the 3, etc.? All this speaks to a lack of quality coaching.

You want pure examples of being out-coached? We beat Washington at their place in 2010 56 to 21 then lost to them 19 to 7 on a neutral field in the bowl game. Our guys man-handled Wisconsin on both sides of the ball in the 2nd half of last year's regular season game to overcome a huge first half deficit, and then lost 70 (ya, you read that right) to 31 to them in the conference title game. Oh, by the way, THE Ohio St. hung 63 on us earlier in the year. And this guy is a defensive minded coach? Don't you remember getting excited before that Wisc. title game? Boy I do! Then it was over in like 5 minutes even with the 85 yard Martinez magic trick. NO TEAM should ever put up 50 on us.

I read those sugar-coaters and their arguments of 9 win seasons. How about mentioning the 4 losses and the none rankings. Nine wins, let me see: Wyoming, So. Miss, South Dakota St. (We're lucky we got the right Dakota St. there cuz we wouldn't beat the other), Illinois, Purdue - that's an auto 5 for you, yet we almost lost to Wyoming. Wyoming? Aren't they the team that took what should have been our hire? Yep! We beat them in Lincoln 37-34. Didn't you google up their record from last year? I did. Wow, not very good. Maybe vastly improved this year? NOPE! Finished 5 and 7. Well who did they play? Well they lost to Texas St. (ever hear of them? Me either.) 42-21, Colorado St. 52-22, San Jose St. 51-44, Fresno St. 48-10, Boise St. 48-7, and Utah St. 35-7, but they did beat Hawaii 59-56. OUCH! Maybe they got injured like us?

Put all that in and shake it up, stir in a little dissing of an iconic QB with an F bomb description of what arguably could be the best and most knowledgeable fan base in all of sport (nothing like pissing in your own nest to get you booted from it), and what do you have? Sounds like a twisted version of an exit strategy to me.

Actually, I thought he was better than this. Much better. Oh, by the way, I don't read the Omaha paper here.

And my dog, well, we just call him Husker now

 

[Branno]

I'd like to see next year's poll centered around your satisfaction with the job that Bo is doing - not the likelyhood that he is fired. Too many outside influences to a firing. I'd actually like to see 3 questions.

1) I am satisfied with the job that Bo Pelini is doing as head coach at Nebraska. 1-6 (strongly disagree - strongly agree).

2) I am satisfied with the current state of the program.

3) Bo Pelini should be retained for an additional season.

I'd like to see the discrepancy between the 3. I vary, especially with the second. I think the program is in a decent place, which is why I think the next guy would be coming into a great position, with talent, support, etc - which is also why I can't strongly disagree that I'm satisfied with the job that he's doing. He's not doing a terrible job, not even close. However, I strongly disagree that Bo Pelini should be retained for another season, for many reasons outside of just wins and losses. It's the job that Pelini did righting the ship, that makes me confident that the next hire would be successful.

For interval data you need at least 7 numbers, and the reason you want interval data is to increase the types of statistical testing you can use to interpret the data. I'd also make the second question on a scale instead of a binary choice. You can't do much with nominal data.

The questions also need to be worded in such a way to reduce bias. Instead of asking, "I am satisfied", simply ask to rate Bo on a scale of 1 to 7.

And even then we're not absolutely sure that the population in the sample is actually representative of the entire population.

But hey, better than nothing. Thanks for doing this this year knapp!

It'd be hard to get a stratified sample without a better idea of the Husker fan population. We would have to use cluster sampling, and hope for the best.

 

[Foppa]

It may have been a different type of season without all the injuries...maybe not. But I'm pretty sure if NU had stayed healthy and we had the same record, Bo would probably be gone.

Highly doubtful......coaches with records like Pelini's don't get fired unless there are significant off the field issues.

Cool. So someone should just start a poll each year on what 4 teams we're going to lose to.

 

[Branno]

Our guys man-handled Wisconsin on both sides of the ball in the 2nd half of last year's regular season game to overcome a huge first half deficit, and then lost 70 (ya, you read that right) to 31 to them in the conference title game.

I'm guessing as a knowledgeable fan base, we might know why we didn't man-handle Wisconsin in the CCG. Check who played on the Husker DL that game........

That's not the point.

It's exactly the point. You have to look at why we lost to Wiscy. You don't think a key injury is important?

 

[TheSker]

It may have been a different type of season without all the injuries...maybe not. But I'm pretty sure if NU had stayed healthy and we had the same record, Bo would probably be gone.

Highly doubtful......coaches with records like Pelini's don't get fired unless there are significant off the field issues.

Cool. So someone should just start a poll each year on what 4 teams we're going to lose to.

I'm sure it would be an interesting poll for those whose only focus on Husker football is the 24 losses the past 6 seasons. The rest of us are watching an excellent DL being put together by a coach who stabilized a program that lost more than 4 games 3 times in 6 seasons before he took over. But by all means, focus on whatever you like.

 

[SWAMI]

It may have been a different type of season without all the injuries...maybe not. But I'm pretty sure if NU had stayed healthy and we had the same record, Bo would probably be gone.

Highly doubtful......coaches with records like Pelini's don't get fired unless there are significant off the field issues.

Solich had a pretty good record (higher winning % than Bo's), and he got axed.

 

[NebraskaHarry]

It may have been a different type of season without all the injuries...maybe not. But I'm pretty sure if NU had stayed healthy and we had the same record, Bo would probably be gone.

Highly doubtful......coaches with records like Pelini's don't get fired unless there are significant off the field issues.

Solich had a pretty good record (higher winning % than Bo's), and he got axed.

Yeah, and did that turn out well for us?

 

[deedsker]

It may have been a different type of season without all the injuries...maybe not. But I'm pretty sure if NU had stayed healthy and we had the same record, Bo would probably be gone.

Highly doubtful......coaches with records like Pelini's don't get fired unless there are significant off the field issues.

Solich had a pretty good record (higher winning % than Bo's), and he got axed.

He forgot #9wins

 

[TheSker]

It may have been a different type of season without all the injuries...maybe not. But I'm pretty sure if NU had stayed healthy and we had the same record, Bo would probably be gone.

Highly doubtful......coaches with records like Pelini's don't get fired unless there are significant off the field issues.

Solich had a pretty good record (higher winning % than Bo's), and he got axed.

Correct....so other than Nebraska doing it once before, any other examples? For Solich it might have been better to do it a year earlier when he was 7-7.

 

[Mavric]

It may have been a different type of season without all the injuries...maybe not. But I'm pretty sure if NU had stayed healthy and we had the same record, Bo would probably be gone.

Highly doubtful......coaches with records like Pelini's don't get fired unless there are significant off the field issues.

Solich had a pretty good record (higher winning % than Bo's), and he got axed.

Correct....so other than Nebraska doing it once before, any other examples? For Solich it might have been better to do it a year earlier when he was 7-7.

And there is still the "possibility" that there were some "off the field" issues involved anyway.

 

[SWAMI]

Our guys man-handled Wisconsin on both sides of the ball in the 2nd half of last year's regular season game to overcome a huge first half deficit, and then lost 70 (ya, you read that right) to 31 to them in the conference title game.

I'm guessing as a knowledgeable fan base, we might know why we didn't man-handle Wisconsin in the CCG. Check who played on the Husker DL that game........

That's not the point.

It's exactly the point. You have to look at why we lost to Wiscy. You don't think a key injury is important?

We lost to Wisc. because we weren't nearly as prepared as they were. Sure key injuries are important, I'm not thinking 45 points important though (36-30 win vs. 70-31 loss). Look, we can use that as an excuse for every loss. Fact is that late in the year every team is banged up. If a "key" injury or two changes the whole impact of your teams success, then you don't have much of a team do ya?

 

[sd'sker]

It may have been a different type of season without all the injuries...maybe not. But I'm pretty sure if NU had stayed healthy and we had the same record, Bo would probably be gone.

Highly doubtful......coaches with records like Pelini's don't get fired unless there are significant off the field issues.

Solich had a pretty good record (higher winning % than Bo's), and he got axed.

Yeah, and did that turn out well for us?

i do not get this train of thought. because it was a mistake to fire solich, it would be a mistake to fire bo? they are different coaches with different situations.

 

[TheSker]

Our guys man-handled Wisconsin on both sides of the ball in the 2nd half of last year's regular season game to overcome a huge first half deficit, and then lost 70 (ya, you read that right) to 31 to them in the conference title game.

I'm guessing as a knowledgeable fan base, we might know why we didn't man-handle Wisconsin in the CCG. Check who played on the Husker DL that game........

That's not the point.

It's exactly the point. You have to look at why we lost to Wiscy. You don't think a key injury is important?

We lost to Wisc. because we weren't nearly as prepared as they were. Sure key injuries are important, I'm not thinking 45 points important though (36-30 win vs. 70-31 loss). Look, we can use that as an excuse for every loss. Fact is that late in the year every team is banged up. If a "key" injury or two changes the whole impact of your teams success, then you don't have much of a team do ya?

Why do you think an emphasis was put on DL recruiting?

 

[SWAMI]

It may have been a different type of season without all the injuries...maybe not. But I'm pretty sure if NU had stayed healthy and we had the same record, Bo would probably be gone.

Highly doubtful......coaches with records like Pelini's don't get fired unless there are significant off the field issues.

Solich had a pretty good record (higher winning % than Bo's), and he got axed.

Yeah, and did that turn out well for us?

No! I bet they wish they hadn't fired him. Surprised me especially in light of Tom's history. I don't know if you're old enough to remember, but there were many calling for his head in the mid-70s. That said, he conducted himself with class, as did Solich. Pelini drops F bombs like they are the word of the day, and uses them to describe our fans. He ridiculed a former star, and he constantly argues with officials to the point of embarrassment even as Dr. Tom pulled him aside after the Texas game a few years back and told him that's not how we conduct ourselves at NU.

We have a catch 22 situation on our hands. The guy can recruit, I mean we have a boatload of talent on this team, I think much more so than most realize, but the guy can't coach. When I watch the Pelini Huskers I get the feeling that half the team is confused. Maybe we should can the no huddle, and just get back to smash-mouth ballin.

Many point to our 9 and 4 records as a mark of success. I hate if's and but's, but we probably should have lost the Wyoming game, definitely the Northwestern game, and won two tossups against Michigan and Penn St. Look at the 4 losses. UCLA ripped us, Minn. gashed us, and Iowa took us apart so miserably that Bo had a public meltdown during and after the game. Mich. St. just beat us.