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Callahan will be here for as long as he wants. Losing season or not he will be here for at least 2 more years after this one. No other fool would take the job if we fired him that quickly. Unless Barry is waiting in the wings. Could be, who knows.

 
([SIZE=14pt]and Bill Callahan will be gone after this season).[/SIZE]
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That would be [SIZE=14pt]GREAT[/SIZE] news! :)

Unfortunately, as long as pud is here, billy c. will be here too. They are now "blood brothers" and if billy c. gets the axe, so does pud.

 
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Why does everything one automatically assume Cally would be fired . . . . I didn't ready the article but when I saw this posting I thought it meant Cally would leave, go back to the NFL or whatever. I don't see how he could be fired after just 2 seasons no matter what, especially considering the recruits he's getting to NU.

Just my opinion.

 
On this note, I agree with ff. If Callahan is fired, Pealman and Pud will be gone as well. If BC quits to go back to the NFL, then probably Pearlman keeps his job but I think Pud still gets the axe.

What came first the chicken or the egg? If Pud would have put as much effort into the program when FS was still here, maybe we would have gotten better recruits? What are your thoughts on this?

 
If Pud would have put as much effort into the program when FS was still here, maybe we would have gotten better recruits? What are your thoughts on this?
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Pud and Frankie were only together for the 03 season. Maybe if Solich would of put more effort in recruiting he would still be here. Callahan isn't going anywhere.IMO

 
On this note, I agree with ff. If Callahan is fired, Pealman and Pud will be gone as well. If BC quits to go back to the NFL, then probably Pearlman keeps his job but I think Pud still gets the axe.
What came first the chicken or the egg? If Pud would have put as much effort into the program when FS was still here, maybe we would have gotten better recruits? What are your thoughts on this?
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Well, it's not really Pederson's fault, since he was only at NU for one Solich season.

If Byrne had put the $$$ into the program that Pederson has, recruiting would have been a lot easier for Solich and probably better. TO said that after Byrne quit. All Byrne did for the football program was pimp it out to support his bid for the Sears all around trophy. Skyboxes are pretty and nice for rich fans, but a visiting recruit could give a crap about them. Solich was not the best recruiter around, but you never saw him working with the prospect of the facilities that Callahan has been able to push on recruits, either.

 
Callahan has a better recruiting staff on hand. They did in 1 recruiting class more then Solich did his last 4 years at Nebraska. Callahan has brought in 12 prospects with 4 stars and 2 prospects with 5 stars. Solich managed only 2 prospects with 4 stars in his last 4 recruiting classes. One ended up being dismissed from the team (David Horne). The other one is fabian washington. Even if 3 or 4 of the 4 star prospects of callhan's don't pan out, that's still better odds then solich's recruiting classes

 
I agree Nameless....and we had pretty darn good luck with our only 5 star before this-Demorrio Williams. Out of 25 kids, I would say there are pretty good odds that atleast 2/3 of them make some kind of impact in their 4-5 years here. And there will be less room for these guys to be "flops" because most of the guys before them werent anything special.

 
Unless our Texas born linemen of the early 90's were lying to me (Aaron Graham and Aaron Taylor), I was led to believe Solich did most of the recruiting back then. In the late 80's early 90's, NU was one of the best if not the best weight room, facilities, etc. in the country. I was told by primarily linemen because they were the only ones who took classes out on East Campus that Solich did 90% of the recruting visits.

So, if they were telling me the truth, he must have been decent at recruiting at sometime in his career. My question is this: if the money would have been thrown at the program while Solich was still there would we have gotten more of the blue chip athletes. Remember, blue chip athletes aren't just QB's. I'm talking TE's, RB's, Linemen, DB's, etc. We have several Linemen and DB's in the pros now. I know we probably wouldn't have ever landed a real blue chip QB because most option QB's aren't thought of as blue chippers. If we'd have gotten the better athletes, would it have mattered? And if the answer is yes to these questions, then I believe we are all mushrooms.

 
Unless our Texas born linemen of the early 90's were lying to me (Aaron Graham and Aaron Taylor), I was led to believe Solich did most of the recruiting back then. In the late 80's early 90's, NU was one of the best if not the best weight room, facilities, etc. in the country. I was told by primarily linemen because they were the only ones who took classes out on East Campus that Solich did 90% of the recruting visits.
So, if they were telling me the truth, he must have been decent at recruiting at sometime in his career. My question is this: if the money would have been thrown at the program while Solich was still there would we have gotten more of the blue chip athletes. Remember, blue chip athletes aren't just QB's. I'm talking TE's, RB's, Linemen, DB's, etc. We have several Linemen and DB's in the pros now. I know we probably wouldn't have ever landed a real blue chip QB because most option QB's aren't thought of as blue chippers. If we'd have gotten the better athletes, would it have mattered? And if the answer is yes to these questions, then I believe we are all mushrooms.
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Like I said above:

If Frank had the facilities that we are installing now, If Byrne had not let the facilities slip so far, Frank would have gotten many more "Blue Chip" athletes. Players want fancy weightrooms and lockerrooms. We have not had that for the last 5+ years.

 
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If Frank had the facilities that we are installing now, If Byrne had not let the facilities slip so far, Frank would have gotten many more "Blue Chip" athletes. Players want fancy weightrooms and lockerrooms. We have not had that for the last 5+ years.
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While facilites are a big factor, other factors are the enthusiasm of the coaches doing the actual recruiting, the type of offense run, and early playing time. While better facilities would have helped, I don't think that those alone would have made huge improvements in the classes. All the elite programs have great facilities, so it's up to the staff to sell the program for other reasons as well. That means staff that live and breath recruiting, which I don't believe was the case for the members of Solich's staff.

 
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If Frank had the facilities that we are installing now, If Byrne had not let the facilities slip so far, Frank would have gotten many more "Blue Chip" athletes.  Players want fancy weightrooms and lockerrooms.  We have not had that for the last 5+ years.
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While facilites are a big factor, other factors are the enthusiasm of the coaches doing the actual recruiting, the type of offense run, and early playing time. While better facilities would have helped, I don't think that those alone would have made huge improvements in the classes. All the elite programs have great facilities, so it's up to the staff to sell the program for other reasons as well. That means staff that live and breath recruiting, which I don't believe was the case for the members of Solich's staff.
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Exactly. Weightrooms, lockers are all nice and dandy, but if a recruit is going to come here and sit 2 years on the bench and not see any playing time unless it's mop up duty, then they look elsehwere. That's one problem Solich had. He RARELY ever played freshman. The only guys that come to mind are Fabian Washington, the Bullock twins and Ritchie Incognito.

 
I agree with you Junior, as I have heard it before, that Frank was a pretty decent recruiter in his own right 15 years ago, but I think that certain things had changed since then. For one the speed at which the game is played, which changes the type of athlete neccessary to be successful, as well as the dispositon of the average 17 year old kid. One thing is obvious. We had pretty decent weightroom and stadium facilities, a winning football program, rabid fans, and a tradition of success, yet werent recruiting as well as we need to. That puts the honus on Frank and his staff, and neither the old one, nor Frank's new one were really able to get it done. You can bash Callahan on alot of things, but recruiting isnt one of them at this point, just as it can not be called a strength of Solich at the end.

 
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