Stats are meaningless to me. And you can say that Frost needed a miracle, but keep in mind the play previous to the miracle play as well as the miracle play itself, our receivers were getting mauled before the ball got there and he actually put it right on the money two straight plays after leading us down the field. And he had the ugliest throwing motion of them all(except for Taylor). All I want is for him to play smart, not throw into triple coverage, take care of the football. But I have yet to see it despite what some folks say. Just because some of our other QBs didn't get the opportunity to shift to a passing mode doesn't mean that they weren't equipped to make some plays. At least we would have had a shred of hope. Right now, my feeling is the same as it was during the last drive in the A&M game last year: game over.(yes I know it was Cody but would have been same result with Taylor, healthy or injured).
If you're old enough to have solid memories of those QBs, you're old enough to know why Martinez isn't to be judged on his passing game the way Ganz or Zac Taylor or Zac Lee was. They aren't the same QBs, not the same offense, not the same philosophy, etc.
Yes, Martinez has improved. That's not me saying that, that's Bo, that's sportswriters in both the LJS and OWH, that's guys on the BTN, etc. Is he a finished product? Absolutely not. But he's getting better, and he's still just a sophomore.
You are absolutely correct in that he should not be throwing into coverage, or missing wide open receivers, or fumbling. But if you're old enough to remember the 90s, you'll remember that Frazier had the exact same problems. Exactly the same, including the fumbles. You'll remember the phrase, "Carrying the ball like a loaf of bread," which always seemed silly to me, but which was said about Frazier about every week, because he put the ball on the ground so many times - and that was even as a Senior.
A&M last year really has no bearing on this conversation - Cody is gone, and Martinez was badly injured and really shouldn't have even been playing. And he was a Freshman. There's just so many reasons why that's a horrible benchmark that it's not worth bringing up.
Surely you can't be serious. You're telling me you'd take Taylor over Crouch? Quit the drugs.
Which Crouch are we talking about? Heisman Trophy Crouch, or Sophomore Crouch? Because Sophomore Crouch had only started his first game by this point. He was buried behind Bobby Newcombe in the depth chart as a Sophomore, if you recall.
