Children and immigration reform

Archy1221 said:
Why are so infatuated with someone or someone’s who seem like posts that aren’t yours?
This may sound super duper crazy to you, but it’s possible people like to just read and not post so they don’t have to deal with the in crowd.
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Infatuated is an interesting word to use when discussing a poster with zero contributions to any discussion and a near-automatic compulsion to drop to his knees and Plus One everything you post.

This may sound super duper crazy to you, but is it possible skers83 is simply.....you?
 
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Guy Chamberlin said:
Infatuated is an interesting word to use when discussing a poster with zero contributions to any discussion and a near-automatic compulsion to drop to his knees and Plus One everything you post.

This may sound super duper crazy to you, but is it possible skers83 is simply.....you?
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It’s possible I guess. Mods would know so ask them. It’s also possible skers83 thinks I’m super duper awesome and post great content ( of which he/she would be super super correct)
 
BigRedBuster said:
That is what ICE should be doing. Not harassing actual US citizens and people who are here legally that haven't done anything wrong and people who have served our country honorably.



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It's hard to keep up with the firehose of cruel stories like this.

I just found out that, thankfully, Mahmoud Khalil was released from the detention center he'd been locked up in for three months. A rare moment of good news for someone, immediately dimmed by realizing how many more examples there are that aren't nationwide news and aren't going to end as well.

idk about you guys, but I'm starting to think that masked men with no identification and no warrant arresting arresting someone without charging them with a crime, despite them having a green card, being married to a US citizen, and having no criminal record, and then disappearing them into a prison is like, a bad look for our country?
 

Judge says Justice Department failed to make case for Abrego Garcia’s detention ahead of criminal trial​


A judge in Tennessee said the Justice Department hasn’t made a convincing case that Kilmar Abrego Garcia should be kept in pretrial detention, though the mistakenly deported man who was returned to the US is likely to remain in federal immigration custody regardless.

Abrego Garcia is being held in Tennessee as he faces a federal indictment of smuggling undocumented immigrants across state lines in 2022. The US returned him from El Salvador this month after the indictment was unsealed, ending a political standoff over his due process rights.

His court proceedings have become a vessel for the Trump Justice Department’s hardball approach to immigration enforcement in which it has sought to portray Abrego Garcia as part of a gang operation in Maryland.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/20/politics/kilmar-abrego-garcia-case-breakdown
But as she ruled in Abrego Garcia’s favor, Magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes of the federal court in Nashville said Sunday that “the government failed to prove” so far that he endangered any minor victim, might try to flee from the law or might attempt to obstruct justice, as the Justice Department had argued. She noted that under federal criminal law, the Justice Department hadn’t even shown it had enough evidence to hold a hearing seeking his pretrial detention.

Still, Abrego Garcia is likely to remain in federal custody, because immigration authorities will be able to keep him detained separate from his criminal case. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

Holmes’ opinion is still a notable one, building upon six hours of evidence and testimony regarding Abrego Garcia’s detention earlier this month, in what amounted to a preview of what may be evidence used at a trial.

Holmes’ 51-page ruling essentially deems some DOJ accusations about Abrego Garcia to be overblown — built upon evidence with questionable reliability from a traffic stop, cooperators in the case providing information to law enforcement through hearsay, and a shaky theory of victimizing children in a human-smuggling operation when that has not been charged or proved by the DOJ, the judge wrote.

 
Lorewarn said:

Judge says Justice Department failed to make case for Abrego Garcia’s detention ahead of criminal trial​


A judge in Tennessee said the Justice Department hasn’t made a convincing case that Kilmar Abrego Garcia should be kept in pretrial detention, though the mistakenly deported man who was returned to the US is likely to remain in federal immigration custody regardless.

Abrego Garcia is being held in Tennessee as he faces a federal indictment of smuggling undocumented immigrants across state lines in 2022. The US returned him from El Salvador this month after the indictment was unsealed, ending a political standoff over his due process rights.

His court proceedings have become a vessel for the Trump Justice Department’s hardball approach to immigration enforcement in which it has sought to portray Abrego Garcia as part of a gang operation in Maryland.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/20/politics/kilmar-abrego-garcia-case-breakdown
But as she ruled in Abrego Garcia’s favor, Magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes of the federal court in Nashville said Sunday that “the government failed to prove” so far that he endangered any minor victim, might try to flee from the law or might attempt to obstruct justice, as the Justice Department had argued. She noted that under federal criminal law, the Justice Department hadn’t even shown it had enough evidence to hold a hearing seeking his pretrial detention.

Still, Abrego Garcia is likely to remain in federal custody, because immigration authorities will be able to keep him detained separate from his criminal case. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

Holmes’ opinion is still a notable one, building upon six hours of evidence and testimony regarding Abrego Garcia’s detention earlier this month, in what amounted to a preview of what may be evidence used at a trial.

Holmes’ 51-page ruling essentially deems some DOJ accusations about Abrego Garcia to be overblown — built upon evidence with questionable reliability from a traffic stop, cooperators in the case providing information to law enforcement through hearsay, and a shaky theory of victimizing children in a human-smuggling operation when that has not been charged or proved by the DOJ, the judge wrote.

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I was assured that it was already proven that he was a hardened criminal and a member of a violent gang. :cautious:
 
BigRedBuster said:
I was assured that it was already proven that he was a hardened criminal and a member of a violent gang. :cautious:
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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck. I mean who of us doesn’t hang with alleged foreign gang members, beat our wife (allegedly) and dive illegal aliens through multiple states in the dead of night for money🤷‍♂️
 
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