Coaching or Talent - which is more responsible

[BIGREDIOWAN]

I'm saying it's mainly a talent issue with some coaching issues sprinkled in. Banker needs to figure it the hell out with this defense or take a walk. Hopefully Riley will figure out what happens to head coaches who are stubborn at Nebraska. Ask the last two if you need an idea of how it ends Riley.

I think he is figuring some of it out. He pulled Davie and things changed for the better on defense.

Collins hasn't been dominant. Our best DL is a converted TE RS freshman. McMullen has disappeared.

LB play has been much improved but they are thin and not healthy all at the same time.

The deck was stacked against him this year and possibly even next year. They need more quality players.

I certainly hope so, the talent issue is a huge problem by itself, but sprinkle in some coaching issues and it can compound the problem that's for sure.

 

[GBRedneck]

Since everyone knows that Riley is a future hall of fame coach with tons of experience (and he's nice!), the 1-2 start MUST mean the players suck.

No biases in this thread!

 

[SuperBigFan69]

I have coached for a long time...Let me tell you from my experience. I am a great coach when I have great players...The rest of the time I kinda suck.

 

[StPaulHusker]

Since everyone knows that Riley is a future hall of fame coach with tons of experience (and he's nice!), the 1-2 start MUST mean the players suck.

No biases in this thread!

Bo Pelini was 3-3 in his first 6 games with a lot more talent than what there is now. Maybe waiting past 3 games would be a good decision

 

[GBRedneck]

Since everyone knows that Riley is a future hall of fame coach with tons of experience (and he's nice!), the 1-2 start MUST mean the players suck.

No biases in this thread!

Bo Pelini was 3-3 in his first 6 games with a lot more talent than what there is now. Maybe waiting past 3 games would be a good decision

A lot more talent? HAHAHAHAHA! Based on what? Pelini took over a 5-7 team. Riley took over a 9-3 team.

 

[BigRedBuster]

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Nebraska doesn’t have junk talent. Enough of that. That’s the past, too — the old recruiting lament. Hey, 9-3 talent isn’t junk, it’s 9-3 with a shot at better if you play it right. Waiting several years to “restock” is a risible argument and Riley, to his credit, wants no part of it. Nebraska had enough talent to beat BYU and Miami. And it has more talent than any team not named Michigan State left on its regular-season schedule. And even that talent gap isn’t as wide as you might think.

This is not 2004, when the offense consisted of Cory Ross banging his way for yards while an untested option quarterback threw bullets to receivers who’d never seen five passes thrown their way in a game. This is 2015. Nebraska has a four-star quarterback with two years under his belt, who’s won at Iowa and Michigan, a stable of ballyhooed (at least according to recruiting services) running backs and good receivers. The line has young talent that coaches are choosing not to play.
Bill Callahan would have auctioned half his playbook in 2004 for receivers Riley has at his disposal.
When Alabama, Ohio State and Notre Dame roll into town, talk talent disparity. Then, it’s wide enough to be worth 10 to 14 points.
When it’s this schedule and the two losses were this close, talk about the controllables. Talk about focus and savvy and aggression and edge. That four-letter word — edge. Nebraska needs early, out-of-the-gate edge.

 

[StPaulHusker]

Since everyone knows that Riley is a future hall of fame coach with tons of experience (and he's nice!), the 1-2 start MUST mean the players suck.

No biases in this thread!

Bo Pelini was 3-3 in his first 6 games with a lot more talent than what there is now. Maybe waiting past 3 games would be a good decision

A lot more talent? HAHAHAHAHA! Based on what? Pelini took over a 5-7 team. Riley took over a 9-3 team.

Callahan recruited a lot better players. No one questions this.

 

[QMany]

Since everyone knows that Riley is a future hall of fame coach with tons of experience (and he's nice!), the 1-2 start MUST mean the players suck.

No biases in this thread!

Bo Pelini was 3-3 in his first 6 games with a lot more talent than what there is now. Maybe waiting past 3 games would be a good decision

Good thing Virginia Tech, #4 Missouri, and #7 Texas Tech aren't on the schedule for Riley's first 6 games.

 

[Stumpy1]

There are 85 players on scholie right now, and only 11 are former walkons. Some scholarship players are injured, and some are redshirting, and some just haven't performed well enough to make the travel roster.

What is the scholie/walkon ratio for other teams?

The point is 79 players traveled to Miami. And 1/3 of them are/were walk ons. That means there is a clear talent gap that Riley has been given and must fix.

No, that stat doesn't mean anything by itself. Take a look at Wisconsin and tell me how many walkons are included in their 79 man travel roster. Then we can talk.

They haven't played a road game so it will be hard to determine just yet. Try again!!!

 

[StPaulHusker]

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Nebraska doesn’t have junk talent. Enough of that. That’s the past, too — the old recruiting lament. Hey, 9-3 talent isn’t junk, it’s 9-3 with a shot at better if you play it right. Waiting several years to “restock” is a risible argument and Riley, to his credit, wants no part of it. Nebraska had enough talent to beat BYU and Miami. And it has more talent than any team not named Michigan State left on its regular-season schedule. And even that talent gap isn’t as wide as you might think.

This is not 2004, when the offense consisted of Cory Ross banging his way for yards while an untested option quarterback threw bullets to receivers who’d never seen five passes thrown their way in a game. This is 2015. Nebraska has a four-star quarterback with two years under his belt, who’s won at Iowa and Michigan, a stable of ballyhooed (at least according to recruiting services) running backs and good receivers. The line has young talent that coaches are choosing not to play.
Bill Callahan would have auctioned half his playbook in 2004 for receivers Riley has at his disposal.
When Alabama, Ohio State and Notre Dame roll into town, talk talent disparity. Then, it’s wide enough to be worth 10 to 14 points.
When it’s this schedule and the two losses were this close, talk about the controllables. Talk about focus and savvy and aggression and edge. That four-letter word — edge. Nebraska needs early, out-of-the-gate edge.

Miami recruiting rankings last 4 years:

10,14,12,27. That means they are recruiting better player and more talent than Nebraska.

 

[Saunders]

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Nebraska doesn’t have junk talent. Enough of that. That’s the past, too — the old recruiting lament. Hey, 9-3 talent isn’t junk, it’s 9-3 with a shot at better if you play it right. Waiting several years to “restock” is a risible argument and Riley, to his credit, wants no part of it. Nebraska had enough talent to beat BYU and Miami. And it has more talent than any team not named Michigan State left on its regular-season schedule. And even that talent gap isn’t as wide as you might think.

This is not 2004, when the offense consisted of Cory Ross banging his way for yards while an untested option quarterback threw bullets to receivers who’d never seen five passes thrown their way in a game. This is 2015. Nebraska has a four-star quarterback with two years under his belt, who’s won at Iowa and Michigan, a stable of ballyhooed (at least according to recruiting services) running backs and good receivers. The line has young talent that coaches are choosing not to play.
Bill Callahan would have auctioned half his playbook in 2004 for receivers Riley has at his disposal.
When Alabama, Ohio State and Notre Dame roll into town, talk talent disparity. Then, it’s wide enough to be worth 10 to 14 points.
When it’s this schedule and the two losses were this close, talk about the controllables. Talk about focus and savvy and aggression and edge. That four-letter word — edge. Nebraska needs early, out-of-the-gate edge.

Miami recruiting rankings last 4 years:

10,14,12,27. That means they are recruiting better player and more talent than Nebraska.

K, now go look at BYU.

 

[Saunders]

There are 85 players on scholie right now, and only 11 are former walkons. Some scholarship players are injured, and some are redshirting, and some just haven't performed well enough to make the travel roster.

What is the scholie/walkon ratio for other teams?

The point is 79 players traveled to Miami. And 1/3 of them are/were walk ons. That means there is a clear talent gap that Riley has been given and must fix.

No, that stat doesn't mean anything by itself. Take a look at Wisconsin and tell me how many walkons are included in their 79 man travel roster. Then we can talk.

They haven't played a road game so it will be hard to determine just yet. Try again!!!

1st game wasn't at camp randle.

 

[GBRedneck]

Since everyone knows that Riley is a future hall of fame coach with tons of experience (and he's nice!), the 1-2 start MUST mean the players suck.

No biases in this thread!

Bo Pelini was 3-3 in his first 6 games with a lot more talent than what there is now. Maybe waiting past 3 games would be a good decision

A lot more talent? HAHAHAHAHA! Based on what? Pelini took over a 5-7 team. Riley took over a 9-3 team.

Callahan recruited a lot better players. No one questions this.

Hate to burst your bubble, but Callahan was a paper tiger. He inherited more NFL talent from Frank than he left for Bo.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

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Nebraska doesn’t have junk talent. Enough of that. That’s the past, too — the old recruiting lament. Hey, 9-3 talent isn’t junk, it’s 9-3 with a shot at better if you play it right. Waiting several years to “restock” is a risible argument and Riley, to his credit, wants no part of it. Nebraska had enough talent to beat BYU and Miami. And it has more talent than any team not named Michigan State left on its regular-season schedule. And even that talent gap isn’t as wide as you might think.

This is not 2004, when the offense consisted of Cory Ross banging his way for yards while an untested option quarterback threw bullets to receivers who’d never seen five passes thrown their way in a game. This is 2015. Nebraska has a four-star quarterback with two years under his belt, who’s won at Iowa and Michigan, a stable of ballyhooed (at least according to recruiting services) running backs and good receivers. The line has young talent that coaches are choosing not to play.
Bill Callahan would have auctioned half his playbook in 2004 for receivers Riley has at his disposal.
When Alabama, Ohio State and Notre Dame roll into town, talk talent disparity. Then, it’s wide enough to be worth 10 to 14 points.
When it’s this schedule and the two losses were this close, talk about the controllables. Talk about focus and savvy and aggression and edge. That four-letter word — edge. Nebraska needs early, out-of-the-gate edge.

Miami recruiting rankings last 4 years:

10,14,12,27. That means they are recruiting better player and more talent than Nebraska.

K, now go look at BYU.

Everybody always points to the exception when it comes to recruiting rankings. It gets old. (Not to mention BYU played using more Rivals 100 players than Nebraska)

For every BYU there's 5 teams like NC State, Cal, etc. that have similar recruiting rankings and aren't nearly as successful.

Now go look at the recruiting rankings of Ohio State, Alabama and Ole Miss. Recruiting rankings aren't a guarantee, as evidenced by Texas and Florida, but they're a borderline requirement.

 

[Stumpy1]

There are 85 players on scholie right now, and only 11 are former walkons. Some scholarship players are injured, and some are redshirting, and some just haven't performed well enough to make the travel roster.

What is the scholie/walkon ratio for other teams?

The point is 79 players traveled to Miami. And 1/3 of them are/were walk ons. That means there is a clear talent gap that Riley has been given and must fix.

No, that stat doesn't mean anything by itself. Take a look at Wisconsin and tell me how many walkons are included in their 79 man travel roster. Then we can talk.

They haven't played a road game so it will be hard to determine just yet. Try again!!!

1st game wasn't at camp randle.

It was in Dallas. I was wrong!!!