Yep. Thanks for recognizing that!Aaaand that isn't what this thread is about, is it?Banker may be a good quote, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is an average to bad defensive coordinator. The only reason he lasted so long at Oregon State and is now at NU is that he's best buds with Riley.
likewise......Has he ever fielded a good defense? Serious question.
I don't find those to be interesting comments. More like gibberish.
Cuz he's a genuine good guy. Like a lot of these guys. "hard not to root for" is not code for "he's a great coach and great fit here". Your lack of reading comprehension-whether intentional or incidental-is really getting old in your effort to knock any feel good vibes. At least hes' not calling us all c***s and telling us to f#*k off. At least he's making us feel a bit inclusive by at least answering questions in an honest, yet cordial manner.Can you expand on that? I find him dislikable, but am willing to change my mind in the face contrary evidence.Banker is a guy that is hard not to root for, even though he might not necessarily be able to get it done, much like a lot of Nebraska coaches in the past.
If we do this our first look better be Todd Orlando from UHBanker is a flipping idiot who Oregon State fans ran out of Corevallis years before Riley came to NU.
If the defense is like last year, Banker needs to be given an admonistrative job by his best buddy.
Spot on man. I know a lot will cringe and think it is blasphomy, but in many ways, Banker speaks a lot like Charlie MicBride If you have ever really listened to McBride back in the day, which I did as a player going to camps and as a coach going to camps he has the same sarcastic matter of fact way of speaking. Not saying it is exactly the same, but Mcbride alsways had a lot of colorful things in his speach that could boarder on the egde of crazy when talking about players and things going on with the defense. Again not comparing the 2 coaches in ability or scheme just the way they speak.Banker utilitizes a system that relies much more on the higher caliber athlete and player than what Bo did in terms of pass defense. Bo had a stop the pass first mentality, and put a lot of eggs in the coverage basket, and could make up for lack of skill with scheme. I always thought Bo was a good ten years ahead of his time with what he was doing with coverage concepts, it was just his lack of ability to teach as well as other things that hurt him. Bankers system on the other hand is a stop the run first mentality, which frankly in this sport, is and always will be the way you need to be. It's something that will never change. This puts added stress on the secondary. Do you think Curtis Cotton, Tyrone Byrd, Carmer, and Wilhite coulda covered and played the man up, on and island philosophy with the same amount of success as the Miles, Bookers, Velands, Browns, Minters, Williams, and Mosses? No. Those guys were better athletes and capable. Banker never had that caliber of player at Or St.
In the end, it's all about what your mindset is as a coach. Play a defense that leaves you susceptible to 400 yards on the ground, or one that leaves you susceptible to Joel Stave and Mitch Leidner throwing for over 300 yards. I'll take the latter every day in the week and twice on sunday, thank you very much.
He came into a better situation, but McBride was light years ahead of Banker. Below are his first 5 seasons as DC and points allowed per game in the nation.Spot on man. I know a lot will cringe and think it is blasphomy, but in many ways, Banker speaks a lot like Charlie MicBride If you have ever really listened to McBride back in the day, which I did as a player going to camps and as a coach going to camps he has the same sarcastic matter of fact way of speaking. Not saying it is exactly the same, but Mcbride alsways had a lot of colorful things in his speach that could boarder on the egde of crazy when talking about players and things going on with the defense. Again not comparing the 2 coaches in ability or scheme just the way they speak.Banker utilitizes a system that relies much more on the higher caliber athlete and player than what Bo did in terms of pass defense. Bo had a stop the pass first mentality, and put a lot of eggs in the coverage basket, and could make up for lack of skill with scheme. I always thought Bo was a good ten years ahead of his time with what he was doing with coverage concepts, it was just his lack of ability to teach as well as other things that hurt him. Bankers system on the other hand is a stop the run first mentality, which frankly in this sport, is and always will be the way you need to be. It's something that will never change. This puts added stress on the secondary. Do you think Curtis Cotton, Tyrone Byrd, Carmer, and Wilhite coulda covered and played the man up, on and island philosophy with the same amount of success as the Miles, Bookers, Velands, Browns, Minters, Williams, and Mosses? No. Those guys were better athletes and capable. Banker never had that caliber of player at Or St.
In the end, it's all about what your mindset is as a coach. Play a defense that leaves you susceptible to 400 yards on the ground, or one that leaves you susceptible to Joel Stave and Mitch Leidner throwing for over 300 yards. I'll take the latter every day in the week and twice on sunday, thank you very much.
Now with that said, everyone considers McBride a defensive god, but up until about 1993 he was not thought of that way by many Nebraska fans. There was many that thought TO needed to move in another direction, that the game had passed him by, just like many were thinking that about TO. This was being said when NU had had some great defenses under McBride and usually had pretty good ones. I more thing, when McBride was hired, in 1979 I believe, it wasn't a popular hire. He came to NU from Wisconsin. Wisconsin in 1979 was terrible, how could NU hire a coach from a terrible school.
If he fails, everyone who doesn't like him can gloat and say they were right, but give him a chance to see what he can do.
Oregon State coach Mike Riley doesn't want to think about losing highly-regarded defensive coordinator Mark Banker, who has seriously considered other jobs - North Carolina in 2007, Boston College in 1999 - but has steadfastly remained by Riley's side for 13 of the last 14 years
Under Banker, who is as fiercely competitive as any assistant coach in the country, Oregon State has acquired a reputation for producing outstanding defenses and developing NFL draft picks out of high school recruits who didn't get so much as a sniff from USC, UCLA, or the 'big time' schools.
Five players off last season's defense - which ranked No. 2 in total defense behind USC - will likely play in the NFL this year.
"He has a philosophy, and a system he teaches,'' says Riley, who watched Banker's 'gap cancellation' scheme shut down No. 1-ranked USC last season.
Hmmm, post 37 too and post 40 are also off topic. But you did not mention the Mods post or your own.I had considered starting a thread exactly like this last year, mainly because of all the funny Banker-isms he was constantly doling out in every interview. I thought it would be nice to have a place we could "collect" them for future entertainment.
The reason I didn't start it last year is because I knew it would instantly be hijacked by haters. When I saw this thread I thought "here it comes..." and sure enough, posts #2, 3, and 4 were an instant derailment. At this point is there a single discussion topic that is immune from anti-coach vitrol from a vocal minority? Starting to get old. Actually, it's been old for a while. Starting to get stale.