The list of highly-recruited quarterbacks who lost their job to an incredibly confident freshman who came out of nowhere is actually pretty long and storied.
Really? Or is this sarcasm. Tommy wasn't highly recruited....at QB. I believe it was us and Southern Miss
(this is all sarcasm)Yea, but the mighty Zac Lee from the City College of San Francisco was unseated by highly recruited safety/WR prospect Taylor Martinez.........
Why do Nebraska fans still wonder why we don't compete for National Titles anymore? The last time we competed for one, we had the Heisman Trophy winner at QB.
You know, many football analysts think the quarterback position is a very important one on a football team, but really, WTH do they know?
Pretty sure no coaching staff here actually tried not to get Heisman calibre QBs here, but what do I know? Now, I did hear that Broderick Thomas was upset that Solich didn't pursue Thomas's hometown QB Vince Young, but I doubt we had any shot at all at him.
If you got the impression I was saying that coaching staffs were trying not to get Heisman caliber QB's I would love to know what the hell I said that made you draw that conclusion. I didn't say anything of the sort and I can't figure out why you even said that. I mean, it's pretty much beyond stupidity.
You're right, no staff here didn't want top talent at QB.
I'm interested though, that last Heisman trophy winning QB we had that played for an NC, what position was other schools wanting him to play?
You act like there were people in the program and fan base that don't think the QB position is the most important position on offense.
Not necessarily. What I am saying is that there is a large portion of this fan base that expects and has expected us to play for national championships in the past 15 years, yet I find those expectations somewhat unrealistic when you consider none of our QB`s in the span of time have been masters of their offensive system.
Eric Crouch was a master of the option.
Its not about what offense you run, how much you run or pass, im talking about being effective and especially being effective against the same level if competition or higher.
You could maybe say Sac Taylor offensive line and defense entirely let him down, but aside from that, my point was until we get aQB that is a gamer in the system we are trying to run, we sshouldn't even be talking about championships.
You made the comment about TMart being a highly recruited Safety/WR prospect as though that is an indictment on the recruiting during that time. Then, you used Crouch as an example of what we need at QB. I am pretty dang sure we were about the only school recruiting Crouch as a QB. Also, Frost was the same way. He even went to Stanford and played safety before coming back and playing QB.
Yes, I agree that Crouch was a master at the option. Both Armstrong and TMart were good at QB in their systems in HS leading their teams to success.
Now, it's obvious that Riley wants a different type of QB than either Armstrong and TMart. As fans, we may jump on that bandwagon. But, I fail to see how using Crouch as an example of great QB recruiting shows how recruiting Armstrong and TMart were somehow total failures.
What the hell are you talking about?
I didn't say we need Crouch at QB? This is the type of sh#t that pisses me off here. My comments are in print, you can read and re-read them all you want, so how the hell do i get misquoted?
I said we haven't had a QB who was a master of the offensive style they were playing in for quite a long time.
Crouch was a great QB because he was a great fit in the option.
Who has executed any Nebraska offense at a level even close to that since that time? I remind you, I'm not asking for a Heisman trophy winner like Crouch, I'm just saying a QB that executes at a high level.
Please, tell me where I said anything even resembling the recruitment of Martinez and Armstrong as a total failure? Such horsesh#t.
I'm a fan of Armstrong and honestly, Taylor did just fine too. Neither one appears/appeared to be qualified enough in their offensive systems to be talking about National championships, which i what this conversation was about.
How an that be argued?
If you can't debate me using facts and actual things I said, then put me on your ignore list and don't try to debate me.