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What I was referring to was that we didn't have #1-5 recruiting class after #1-5 recruiting class like some of the coastal schools enjoy.
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Yes talent did flock to NU when we were winning NCs, just before T.O. retired NU had the highest recruiting class EVER in the history of college football. i will step back and let you jump on the Calahan wagon stay there my friend....be prepared to become a browns fan. Why does everyone involve other people and use them as references? Dave Wandstat, Tim Brown, completely different and unrelated. Rathman has a longer stint with working with pro players than the afore mentioned Huskers, tons more exp. never mind im sure im dealing with someone who depends on sportscenter and the big red page for information.
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This thread/topic is going no where. Rathman has no experience as a head coach or coordinator. Just because he played running back and coached running backs in a west coast offense does not make him a guru. There's a lot more involved in coaching then what you're saying. I don't think NFL coaches do much less than college coaches and you're saying that NFL players don't need coaching or grooming. You think Brady Quinn is going to step into Cleveland and win the Super Bowl? You think Peyton just walked into Indy and was the NFL MVP? Players need to develop in the pros as much as college. Rathman has NEVER coached a passing system, has NEVER coached a quarterback and been around the development of one and has NEVER coached an offense/defense. You have absolutely no argument to make him a head coach other than he wants to come, was a former husker and played in the west coast offense and won a super bowl. And how is Rathman a pioneer in the offense? He played in it, sure, but he's no pioneer. He didn't help develop it.
If you want to looby someone for a position (and one thats not even available) you better be able to, as you would put it, "intelligently" argue for why they should be put there.
If you want to looby someone for a position (and one thats not even available) you better be able to, as you would put it, "intelligently" argue for why they should be put there.
Tom does want to coach at NU. And I wasnt saying bring him in to be HC now....originally i mentioned him being a running backs coach, slash, OC.....
no, players need to learn the system and adjust to speed....by the time a player gets to the NFL 90% are good enough to be there and development is more tweeking than anything. Tom dont have to coach the QB or linebackers, he could play the role bowden plays in florida. read what you are saying and truly claim Rathman as a non candidate.
I understand.....Tom was asked if he would be intrested in coaching at NU after frank was fired, he also mentioned the offense would change. he was no longer looked upon as a HC candidate. Pederson, with time running out, jumped to the Callahan decision because he was the best choice at the time. mind you callahan was only a HC for 2 yrs at oakland, and the oakland team that went to the superbowl was the team jon gruden developed. callahan merely played "bobby bowden". his 2nd season began the destruction of the raiders we know now. nobody was blowing up bills phone after he was released from the raiders, how could bill turn down the NU position? he has a family to care for. im convinced through remarks made by bill and people around him, prior to being at NU, his dreams are in the NFL. now we are back to Tom R. who was going to change the NU offense to the west coast when he was asked to coach NU in the early days of our new coach search. I have nothing against callahan, i wish him the best of luck. through rumor mills around the NFL i dont see his future in NU. i see it in cleveland. and i feel we need to be prepared for the next HC departure. understand anyone following a legend "T.O" was not going to be very good, even with the option. Tom Osborne had legendary status in a young offensive linemans home. Rathman can command respect as well.
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Everyone likes a winner, so it's natural that TO started getting better recruiting classes after he won a NC. However, he never had a #1 recruiting class and he never had repeatedly #1-5 recruiting classes. Nebraska is a difficult place to recruit to due to weather and size, or lack-there-of, of Lincoln. It's not as bad as some other major universities, but it is a difficult place to recruit 5 star talent to. I don't think it matters who the coach is, we're not going to see players "flock" to Lincoln, Nebraska to play football. Again, how many 18 year old 5 star recruits even know who the hell Tom Rathman is? How many watched him play football? Why would he have any more pull than BC?
As for BC leaving, I agree that more than likely if he has the kind of success we're all hoping for that it's very likely he'll leave. I'm just not on the same page with the whole Tom Rathman welcoming committee.
As for references, in order to have any backing to your argument you have to use references because no one will ever know if Rathman should have been chosen until years later just like BC. Just because someone played under and was coached under someone doesn't mean they'll make a great coach (ie Tommie Frazier). Some former players make great coaches and some do not (ie Art Shell). I'm guessing there are several more qualified people out there to take the vacancy if there is one than Tom Rathman.
As for BC leaving, I agree that more than likely if he has the kind of success we're all hoping for that it's very likely he'll leave. I'm just not on the same page with the whole Tom Rathman welcoming committee.
As for references, in order to have any backing to your argument you have to use references because no one will ever know if Rathman should have been chosen until years later just like BC. Just because someone played under and was coached under someone doesn't mean they'll make a great coach (ie Tommie Frazier). Some former players make great coaches and some do not (ie Art Shell). I'm guessing there are several more qualified people out there to take the vacancy if there is one than Tom Rathman.
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