Thanks_Tom RR
All-American
Newby, TA, Cross, Ozigbo, Reilly, Moore, Turner, and Janovich all have cares now. Wilbon can't get a single touch?
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Hujan
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Correct. The better player in practice will always be the better player in the game.
Sincerely,
Daniel Davie
Hujan
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It's bizarre. Newby is legitimately awful. Wilbon's pass pro can't be THAT bad that. I have trouble believing he'd be any worse than Jaquizz Rodgers in pass pro.
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Husker NoNo
Five-Star Recruit
I personally think Riley is trying to lose. He saw what Callahan did, and said "that looks like a good idea!" I too wish that Wilbon would get some carries as I am over the Imani experience, but I also do not believe that the coaches are ignorant of talent and skill.
benjibean1
Five-Star Recruit
Careful I got torched when this hire happened for saying that same statement. Don't win 9, gotta lower those expectations.
Sargon
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Hujan
Starter
Pretty small sample size you're using to judge him there. You're also overlooking the explosiveness he showed in the screen game. And this is less about certainty that Wilbon is the answer and more about certainty that Newby is not. If Wilbon turns out to be as poor a runner as Newby, have we lost anything in the process?
Need proof.
zoogs
Assistant Coach
Newby isn't that poor. Possibly Wilbon is quite similar (flashes, but needs more experience. Maybe he's more athletic, but on the other hand less polished) and he would get chances if they wanted more committee look.
I would like to see some Wilbon/Ozigbo going forward, though. Just to spell Newby. If Newby goes down we want the next guy to have some more experience. Cross has that but might not be the right #1 runner. Seems more of a specialist.
I would like to see some Wilbon/Ozigbo going forward, though. Just to spell Newby. If Newby goes down we want the next guy to have some more experience. Cross has that but might not be the right #1 runner. Seems more of a specialist.
Hujan
Starter
He's bad, zoogs. Inexplicably bad. Like, "give Rudy a chance to get in the game for one snap" bad. I implore anyone who has any doubts to re-watch the game and watch only him on offense.
He is constantly on the ground. Several times after a run fake, he would go to "block" and would run into the backside of one of our linemen and fall down. On that kick return he took out of the end zone (poor decision), he took the ball out 10 yards then simply slumped to the ground seemingly without any contact almost like a QB sliding before getting hit. I'm not sure I've seen him break contact a single time. Indeed, in this game alone, I saw him get taken down by single-arm tackles at least twice.
When he runs, he tries to stretch almost everything to the sidelines, never daring to cut and head upfield. Eventually, a defender will chase him down from behind and tackle him for no or little gain. Don't even get me started on that play where he was running with a blocker in front and instead of heading to open field, he ran straight into his own blocker and fell to the ground.
The only time he picks up any yards is when he gets a good push from the offensive line and gets upfield for a quick 5-6 yards, or things are well blocked to the outside and he can break an off-tackle run for 10-15 yards. But literally all of his yards are in wide open space with not only no contact, but no defender anywhere near him.
If I seem obsessed with him, it's because I cannot believe that a coaching staff like this is blind to how ineffective he is as a player.
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zoogs
Assistant Coach
I mean, I haven't been blown away by his play, but this is where we'll have to disagree.
I'm not exactly able to offer a qualified expert opinion, either, so I'm not saying you are wrong. Just that to me, this seems harsh. I'd like to see Wilbon or Ozigbo get some more PT too, but this is an unusually blistering view on Newby. Time will tell, right?
Hujan
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Perhaps. The problem is that it's pretty much been a one-man show at RB, leaving open the question of whether anyone else can do better. That, again, is my point: I'd like to see proof that Newby is a better long-term solution than Wilbon.