Imani Cross...

Its hard to say for me concerning TA. It looks almost schizophrenic when hes gonna get carries in games. To me its a wash.

Ok so maybe like a percentage like this?

Aa 50% Cross 35% and the rest to QB and RB2's

I just want us dto have depth come week 11 12 and postseason. Were in a good position to do that AND put real talent on the field every down.
I agree it's hard to really crack down on because of so many variables, such has close games, games where down big, etc. You look at top RB's from the last couple years and they are easily getting 250+ carries on the year. 9 of top 10 rushers last year had 265+. Also I thought I saw the number of 430 runs earlier in this thread but stat sheets are showing me 584, to be fair feel free to change your numbers based on that. Of course this is without seeing Taylor is Division 1 football, but I've said before I think he passes Cross this season.

Ameer: 265....he's a top back, he has to reach that number if we need him too. Up to 280 fine too.

Tommy: 90...just built on our offense type that is almost as low as he can get. That's 7.5 a game....hard for him to get less with the option, scrambling and zone read. (This includes sacks)

Cross: 80...benefit of the doubt here over Taylor and Newby because he is going to get the goal line touches and to this point hasn't been passed by either of them.

Newby: 70...he got 54 carries last year when he was still getting his feet wet. He fits our spread attack....Ameer thinks he is pretty dang good too.

Taylor: 54....wildcard here. Freak RB in HS and in the fall camp people were saying he is a "Faster Cross". His numbers could go up and Cross' down after the spring/fall battle.

WR's: 10...saw the jet sweep action a lot vs. UGA and think we will more next season.

Stanton: 15...hope he get's some PT, granted I'm going off that he doesn't beat out Tommy in camp. (Includes sacks)

 
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Ok so maybe like a percentage like this?

Aa 50% Cross 35% and the rest to QB and RB2's
2013 was:

  • RB1: 48%
  • QB: 18%
  • RB2: 15%
  • Other: 10%
  • RB3: 9%

If you give Imani 20% more carries, you are taking away 9+ carries per game from a dual-threat QB, Terrrell Newby, and other rushers.

My fix, just beat the sh*t out of FAU, Mcneese St., Fresno St., Illinois, Rutgers, and Purdue so AA gets some rest and others get some reps.

Staff didn't mismanage much (or anything) during the big games. We needed every one of AA's 27 touches against UGA.

 
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devnet said:
I think we're misusing him. He did power sweeps in high school...he even operated the zone read out of the wildcat.

I think he can make cuts just fine just based on watching his film from his senior year of high school. It's obvious he's an agile player...and he's even better at it now.

I think the coaches labeled him by using him in goalline situations and people just bought it. That's just not the RB I see on his film.

It means to this point in Division 1 football, he hasn't exactly shown it.

 
devnet said:
It means to this point in Division 1 football, he hasn't exactly shown it.
He needs to be given the chance to show it. That's the point of this thread.
He's been given 140 carries in his Fr and Soph years, and to reverse your saying....I not sure he has done anything when given the chance to show he deserves more.

 
Its hard to say for me concerning TA. It looks almost schizophrenic when hes gonna get carries in games. To me its a wash.

Ok so maybe like a percentage like this?

Aa 50% Cross 35% and the rest to QB and RB2's

I just want us dto have depth come week 11 12 and postseason. Were in a good position to do that AND put real talent on the field every down.
I agree it's hard to really crack down on because of so many variables, such has close games, games where down big, etc. You look at top RB's from the last couple years and they are easily getting 250+ carries on the year. 9 of top 10 rushers last year had 265+. Also I thought I saw the number of 430 runs earlier in this thread but stat sheets are showing me 584, to be fair feel free to change your numbers based on that. Of course this is without seeing Taylor is Division 1 football, but I've said before I think he passes Cross this season.

Ameer: 265....he's a top back, he has to reach that number if we need him too. Up to 280 fine too.

Tommy: 90...just built on our offense type that is almost as low as he can get. That's 7.5 a game....hard for him to get less with the option, scrambling and zone read. (This includes sacks)

Cross: 80...benefit of the doubt here over Taylor and Newby because he is going to get the goal line touches and to this point hasn't been passed by either of them.

Newby: 70...he got 54 carries last year when he was still getting his feet wet. He fits our spread attack....Ameer thinks he is pretty dang good too.

Taylor: 54....wildcard here. Freak RB in HS and in the fall camp people were saying he is a "Faster Cross". His numbers could go up and Cross' down after the spring/fall battle.

WR's: 10...saw the jet sweep action a lot vs. UGA and think we will more next season.

Stanton: 15...hope he get's some PT, granted I'm going off that he doesn't beat out Tommy in camp. (Includes sacks)

I was going off of the theme of "RB carries". There is a post earlier that showed we had 432 RB carries last year.

 
Ok so maybe like a percentage like this?

Aa 50% Cross 35% and the rest to QB and RB2's
2013 was:

  • RB1: 48%
  • QB: 18%
  • RB2: 15%
  • Other: 10%
  • RB3: 9%

If you give Imani 20% more carries, you are taking away 9+ carries per game from a dual-threat QB, Terrrell Newby, and other rushers.

My fix, just beat the sh*t out of FAU, Mcneese St., Fresno St., Illinois, Rutgers, and Purdue so AA gets some rest and others get some reps.

Staff didn't mismanage much (or anything) during the big games. We needed every one of AA's 27 touches against UGA.
My problem with putting a firm number of reps per back is the different looks different teams are gonna throw at us. Miami isnt going to bring the same D as Wisconsin is. Adjustments must be made. Granted an identitywould be nice but it should vary depending on the linemen the backs are up against and what specific skill set each posesses brings to the table

 
Its hard to say for me concerning TA. It looks almost schizophrenic when hes gonna get carries in games. To me its a wash.

Ok so maybe like a percentage like this?

Aa 50% Cross 35% and the rest to QB and RB2's

I just want us dto have depth come week 11 12 and postseason. Were in a good position to do that AND put real talent on the field every down.
I agree it's hard to really crack down on because of so many variables, such has close games, games where down big, etc. You look at top RB's from the last couple years and they are easily getting 250+ carries on the year. 9 of top 10 rushers last year had 265+. Also I thought I saw the number of 430 runs earlier in this thread but stat sheets are showing me 584, to be fair feel free to change your numbers based on that. Of course this is without seeing Taylor is Division 1 football, but I've said before I think he passes Cross this season.

Ameer: 265....he's a top back, he has to reach that number if we need him too. Up to 280 fine too.

Tommy: 90...just built on our offense type that is almost as low as he can get. That's 7.5 a game....hard for him to get less with the option, scrambling and zone read. (This includes sacks)

Cross: 80...benefit of the doubt here over Taylor and Newby because he is going to get the goal line touches and to this point hasn't been passed by either of them.

Newby: 70...he got 54 carries last year when he was still getting his feet wet. He fits our spread attack....Ameer thinks he is pretty dang good too.

Taylor: 54....wildcard here. Freak RB in HS and in the fall camp people were saying he is a "Faster Cross". His numbers could go up and Cross' down after the spring/fall battle.

WR's: 10...saw the jet sweep action a lot vs. UGA and think we will more next season.

Stanton: 15...hope he get's some PT, granted I'm going off that he doesn't beat out Tommy in camp. (Includes sacks)

I was going off of the theme of "RB carries". There is a post earlier that showed we had 432 RB carries last year.
Ah gotcha gotcha, well I just included QB's/WR's. I expect to see QB runs go down with T-Mart being gone.

 
Definitely dont see TA carving up Defenses like Taylor did. Hes capable of running but Id rather he not injure himself and have it linger through the rest of his Husker career.

 
devnet said:
devnet said:
It means to this point in Division 1 football, he hasn't exactly shown it.
He needs to be given the chance to show it. That's the point of this thread.
He's been given 140 carries in his Fr and Soph years, and to reverse your saying....I not sure he has done anything when given the chance to show he deserves more.

How many were sweeps to the outside, options, or off tackle carries? That's the point. He's been pushed into short yardage carries. Those often don't amount to much.

LOL....I remember being in a thread once where someone was asserting that Imani is put in way too many situations where he is ran outside instead of inside.

So, there are fans out there that claim he is ran too much outside and now I read there are fans who claim he is ran too much inside.

 
devnet said:
devnet said:
It means to this point in Division 1 football, he hasn't exactly shown it.
He needs to be given the chance to show it. That's the point of this thread.
He's been given 140 carries in his Fr and Soph years, and to reverse your saying....I not sure he has done anything when given the chance to show he deserves more.

How many were sweeps to the outside, options, or off tackle carries? That's the point. He's been pushed into short yardage carries. Those often don't amount to much.
He's ran some zone read. Not sure about sweeps as we didn't use them nearly as much this year and not sure on option...but maybe something in practices shows the coaches the option isn't working for him.

 
devnet said:
devnet said:
It means to this point in Division 1 football, he hasn't exactly shown it.
He needs to be given the chance to show it. That's the point of this thread.
He's been given 140 carries in his Fr and Soph years, and to reverse your saying....I not sure he has done anything when given the chance to show he deserves more.

How many were sweeps to the outside, options, or off tackle carries? That's the point. He's been pushed into short yardage carries. Those often don't amount to much.

LOL....I remember being in a thread once where someone was asserting that Imani is put in way too many situations where he is ran outside instead of inside.

So, there are fans out there that claim he is ran too much outside and now I read there are fans who claim he is ran too much inside.
+1.

 
devnet said:
LOL....I remember being in a thread once where someone was asserting that Imani is put in way too many situations where he is ran outside instead of inside.

So, there are fans out there that claim he is ran too much outside and now I read there are fans who claim he is ran too much inside.
I call BS on that.

No one in their right mind would claim that in my opinion. I remember 1 run outside last year and we were backed up at the goaline and Beck ran a zone read. It was the worst call ever.

Those calls tell us nothing about Imani's ability to run they ball. In those cases, no one gets many yards. I think the coaches are misusing him.

Well...you can call BS all you want and I called BS on the person who claimed Cross was ran outside too much. But, the conversation happened.

 
There is more to the game than running the ball. The main reason Heard did get on the field was the lack of blocking. I can not say this about Cross, but I do not think he has the talent to be every down back. I think the younger guys will get more carries between the 20s than Cross this year.

 
Cross isnt exactly an outside runner yet. Maybe this year he can be. Ive been happy using him in the redzone but I doubt hes happy with being simply a sledgehammer back. Hope hes evolvrd into an any down back. We need to get back to being fresh as hell in the 4th quarter while the opposition is saying sfrew it put in the third stringers

 
I wonder if Burkhead is ever going to get his legs back? He didn't have a carry in the NFL last year. Probably because they ran his f'ing legs off of him his last season here. The guy could barely walk after the Iowa game.
In Rex's last season here, he had 98 carries. He was injured, but in the games he was able to play, he averaged only 12 carries per game.

He ran the ball a good amount his Junior year, particularly in big games. Are you attributing his lack of carries in the NFL to the amount of carries he had in college two seasons prior when he averaged 21 carries per game?

La'Veon Bell certainly didn't need to use his 29 carries per game in 2012 as an excuse for the Steelers in 2013.

Just trying to make sense of this convoluted argument.
I edited it but you beat me to it. I had nearly forgotten his lost senior season to be honest. It was a shame. I'm not sure if that knee injury can be attributed to overuse and abuse that junior year or not. Fact was, he was overused that season, period. The short careers running backs have tends to be due to the abuse the knees take, so I don't think it's completely out of the realm of possibility that something lingered there. Did he ever really get over it? I'm assuming it's what held him out of last year in the NFL? Was he ever fully healed his senior year when the Nebraska staff put him into the game? Could his injury and recovery have been mismanaged? We could always ask Taylor. He may know a thing or two about mismanaging recovery.
If he didn't get over it, then how on earth did he make it onto an NFL team???

 
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