Indiana and Nebraska

[Mavric]

Why odd? 24/7 sports Top 50 college programs for NIL money. August 27th, 2024

I've just never seen the numbers reported like that. It seems to be some sort of lifetime giving numbers. So I'm not sure how helpful that is.

I found the article you are referencing. It's a bit odd that the article is still using data from 2022. So it's a bit stale. Then there is a link in the article to the data used but the USAToday data in the link doesn't match what the article says. The data linked seems to show total athletic department operating revenue, presumably from last year although it's not dated.

So I'm not sure the article is really all that useful for anything.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

From what little I know about Cignetti I think the fishbowl here would drive him nuts and he would give pissier & pissier answers, particularly after hard losses. I think it drove Bo nuts in the end, and I don't think Frost or Callahan cared for it either. It's a lot to put up with. I couldn't do it.

Yep!

Creepy Dirk wrote creep articles about Bo...the fans turned on him because he didn't want to give us handjobs...Cigs would lose his mind here.

 

[Lorewarn]

Someone on the huskers subreddit was also venting about this same topic, and referencing other schools doing what it feels like we can not, and this is what I said.

Each of those schools have specific contexts that are different than ours.

Indiana and Cignetti are aiming for an overnight turnaround and brought a ton of portal players with them

TTU has a tech billionaire writing them blank checks. We don't have billionaire money.

Oklahoma had a loaded roster with a high blue chip ratio and top ten recruiting.

so on and so forth

Is it possible to rebuild faster than we are? Yes. But Rhule's got his approach, which is different than others', and we've always known his approach was gonna take time. It doesn't mean he hasn't been trying to win, but he's understood that chasing wins immediately is a more flimsy priority than building a foundation that can't easily be shaken.

 

[Mavric]

Someone on the huskers subreddit was also venting about this same topic, and referencing other schools doing what it feels like we can not, and this is what I said.

Each of those schools have specific contexts that are different than ours.

Indiana and Cignetti are aiming for an overnight turnaround and brought a ton of portal players with them

TTU has a tech billionaire writing them blank checks. We don't have billionaire money.

Oklahoma had a loaded roster with a high blue chip ratio and top ten recruiting.

so on and so forth

Is it possible to rebuild faster than we are? Yes. But Rhule's got his approach, which is different than others', and we've always known his approach was gonna take time. It doesn't mean he hasn't been trying to win, but he's understood that chasing wins immediately is a more flimsy priority than building a foundation that can't easily be shaken.

And it's easy to point to the few that worked and ignore the dozens that didn't.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

From what little I know about Cignetti I think the fishbowl here would drive him nuts and he would give pissier & pissier answers, particularly after hard losses. I think it drove Bo nuts in the end, and I don't think Frost or Callahan cared for it either. It's a lot to put up with. I couldn't do it.

The fishbowl at Nebraska isn't much different than the fishbowl at any football program we'd like to be, and I'd argue that Husker fans and beat reporters are more polite than a lot of other fanbases. Same fishbowl also comes with more prestige and adoration when you win. You own an entire state.

No coach likes having to answer stupid questions after hard losses. But it's one of the reasons they get paid millions of dollars.

 

[lo country]

If the college football goes to 5 for 5 rule w/no RS’s this allowing guys to play 5 full seasons does this help or hurt Rhule? I know his approach has been develop and hit portal to “fill immediate” needs. So does he burn guys RS’s this year in hopes it passes or keep some of the guys on the bench to “preserve” what might be going away. Will this mean less guys willing to take a “sit” a year attitude or want to play right away…

 

[Hilltop]

If the college football goes to 5 for 5 rule w/no RS’s this allowing guys to play 5 full seasons does this help or hurt Rhule? I know his approach has been develop and hit portal to “fill immediate” needs. So does he burn guys RS’s this year in hopes it passes or keep some of the guys on the bench to “preserve” what might be going away. Will this mean less guys willing to take a “sit” a year attitude or want to play right away…

I think for all coaches it will be a player by player situation that is handled differently. I do think you will see fewer kids willing to ride the bench past their freshman season.

The question for me is how will 5 for 5 change QB recruitment. We may have DR here 3 more years....

 

[USDSM Huskerlover]

I have several conversations about this sort of thing with others- mainly bringing up never-was programs (ISU, KU, and IU) success and medium level success programs that went through a bad period from prior success (MN, WI, & OU)

I think that they have points that are interesting to analyze - the rise of ISU and KU have been commensurate with good hires but also the recent flattening of the talent collection and transfer portal. Why NU hasn't been able to take similar advantage has been mainly based on two and half catastrophic hires (Pelini, Riley, and Frost).

MN and WI were absolute bottom dwellers in the olde Big10 for a long time- WI had Barry Alvarez bring in a tough / run first that worked for them for success, MN was brought up from the dumps after Lou Holtz abandoned them with several above average hires and then the (IMO) head scratching success of PJ Fleck.

The programs that are largely on the level of NU right now are CU and WI. Hired coaches at the same time, similar recruiting territories. Would you trade the current state of those 2 programs with the trajectory of NU @ this time? I sure wouldn't.

GO BIG RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lo country]

I think for all coaches it will be a player by player situation that is handled differently. I do think you will see fewer kids willing to ride the bench past their freshman season.

The question for me is how will 5 for 5 change QB recruitment. We may have DR here 3 more years....

Good point on DR. We have a solid (2 game against lesser talent) QB2 on the roster and another incoming. No one with legit talent will sit for 3 years. A lot won’t sit for 1-2…..

 

[Hilltop]

Good point on DR. We have a solid (2 game against lesser talent) QB2 on the roster and another incoming. No one with legit talent will sit for 3 years. A lot won’t sit for 1-2…..

We have 2 good QBs coming- 1 each of the next 2 years. My guess is the elite QBs will leave for the NFL after 3 or 4 years in college unless they are really being paid. My guess is Lateef will transfer after this season if Raiola stays healthy. He appears to just be too good to be a backup, no matter what we are paying him. We will then likely have Dayton as our #2 for next season with Tray coming in the following year. Those 2 will likely compete for the starting job in 2027 or 2028. Each will have 3 or 4 years left to play at that point. Of course all this is making a ton of assumptions but its fun to consider the possibilities.

 

[lo country]

We have 2 good QBs coming- 1 each of the next 2 years. My guess is the elite QBs will leave for the NFL after 3 or 4 years in college unless they are really being paid. My guess is Lateef will transfer after this season if Raiola stays healthy. He appears to just be too good to be a backup, no matter what we are paying him. We will then likely have Dayton as our #2 for next season with Tray coming in the following year. Those 2 will likely compete for the starting job in 2027 or 2028. Each will have 3 or 4 years left to play at that point. Of course all this is making a ton of assumptions but its fun to consider the possibilities.

I can't lie. I like Lateef a lot. Hope we can keep him. I'd like to see him get some quality reps against better competition than Akron and HCU. But against those two, I loved the mobility and "dual threat" potential. Another year in the S&C program and he could be a dude.

 

[Patriot45]

Indiana is doing something that hasn't been done before or at least not in recent history. There are dozens of programs trying to replicate it- all are falling short. Cig is a good coach who had the right timing going to Indiana. He is abrasive so many top programs ignored his success at other, more prominent programs. Indiana had nothing to lose so they gave him a shot. Against all odds, it worked and exceeded all expectations for the hire. Is it sustainable? Time will tell.

Nebraska is on an upward trajectory, unlike many of the teams who hired new coaches in the last 3 years. As I mentioned in another thread, I think most of us agree that our current team would likely beat any of the Riley or Frost coached teams. We are in a good place compared to the last 10 years. I think fans would do well to remember that and enjoy the climb back. We all want national championship teams but don't let that override the joy that comes from beating the average opponent- something we have struggled to do for the last 10 years. Will Rhule get us there? Who knows but I'm going to do my best to enjoy the climb, however high he can take us.

I really like Matt Rule as the Nebraska Coach. He has made us better each year with transfers and now incoming Freshmen are beginning to look at us more and making trips to our school. I think the fact that we are looking to make changes in our Stadium will help a lot, and a lot of our various sports programs have improved a lot ion last few years also. The sold out stadium with our loyal fans, the positive attitude of the players and coaches, the Nil, are all student draws.We played Michigan well and I think next season will be Really good for us when we meet the TOP teams in our conference. We may even be one of them. Just a few key positions filled and we are there.

 

[I am I]

Virginia just beat FSU at home. In OTs.


If they can do it why can’t we?

0-28 in ranked games. That’s almost as long as our previous record of consecutive bowl games (36yrs in a row).
Just sayin, we have some kind of dark a$$ cloud around us. When is the last time we were playing a ranked team and just went out and had fun and played hard and won the game?
I was at the Oregon game in 2016, and even then we puckered up pretty tight. Had lots of fun in the stands and actually expected to win…but it was sphincter clencher.

When was the last time we just f’ing loose? Like, for real…just loose and playing the damn game?

 

[The Dude]

0-28 in ranked games.

I don't like it. I think we should get credit for this.