NFL 2024

Mavric said:
Another example of how QB recruiting is all but a complete crap shoot.  You would think that the big hitters - Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Oklahoma, USC, Notre Dame, etc. - would be dominating this area, as they more or less get their pick.  But it rarely works out that way.

QBs in the NFL Playoffs this year:

Patrick Mahomes (former NFL MVP and Super Bowl Champion) - started at Texas Tech, not exactly a national power nor recruiting powerhouse

Josh Allen (NFL MVP) - Wyoming

Jordan Love - Utah State

Lamar Jackson (former MVP) - Louisville, not exactly a national power nor recruiting powerhouse

Baker Mayfield - started at Texas Tech, not exactly a national power nor recruiting powerhouse

Jayden Daniels - started at Arizona State, not exactly a national power nor recruiting powerhouse

Russell Wilson - started at NC State then Wisconsin, neither exactly a national power nor recruiting powerhouse
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I don't know that I'd agree that quarterback recruiting is such a crapshoot, but I'd certainly agree that reliably predicting quarterbacks that will transition and develop into quality NFL players is. 

It's not like Bama, tOSU and others don't have good-to-great quarterbacks essentially every single year. I think it's more that being an elite college quarterback, on an elite team with an elite line and elite receivers, doesn't necessarily help you much towards transitioning into the league. 

The closest I've anecdotally come to trying to figure out a formula (still imperfect and limited with plenty of exceptions) to predicting NFL quarterback success is finding someone at a lower program with good instincts, who developed by having to throw into tighter windows to less talented receivers, had to develop pocket presence by not always having a clean pocket, etc.

 
Lorewarn said:
I don't know that I'd agree that quarterback recruiting is such a crapshoot, but I'd certainly agree that reliably predicting quarterbacks that will transition and develop into quality NFL players is. 

It's not like Bama, tOSU and others don't have good-to-great quarterbacks essentially every single year. I think it's more that being an elite college quarterback, on an elite team with an elite line and elite receivers, doesn't necessarily help you much towards transitioning into the league. 
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This is a fair observation.  But Alabama went a lot of years - and won a lot of games - rolling out the likes of John Parker Wilson, Greg McElroy, AJ McCarron, Blake Sims and Jake Coker at quarterback, despite consistently recruiting amongst the best in the nation.  Georgia was starting a walk-on at QB as recently as a couple of years ago, along with guys like Jake Fromm and Jacob Eason.  USC isn't quite at their level but has run out Cody Kessler and Kedon Slovis despite being the dominant recruiter on the west coast.  Oklahoma has had prolific offenses for a couple of decades but has still been stuck with guys playing QB who ended up being Safeties (Trevor Knight) and Tight Ends (Blake Bell) for significant stretches.

And that's not inlcuding how prevalent it's been for CFP teams to be starting transfer QBs, to some significant extant to cover failures in recruiting QBs.  I think a lot of high-recruiting teams have struggled significantly to recruit QBs, and a significant number of the best QBs were missed in recruiting.

Lorewarn said:
The closest I've anecdotally come to trying to figure out a formula (still imperfect and limited with plenty of exceptions) to predicting NFL quarterback success is finding someone at a lower program with good instincts, who developed by having to throw into tighter windows to less talented receivers, had to develop pocket presence by not always having a clean pocket, etc.
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I agree with this.  I'd add that it doesn't matter as much what level you've played at but performing at a high level for multiple seasons seems to be a significant factor.  The one-year wonders don't seem to have fared as well.

 
Found this video pretty entertaining and Brady talks quite a bit about sliding rules. He thinks if the QB slides within 5 yards of a defender they should be able to hit them. I think that's a bit much but maybe it like... 2. Or make a push with the refs and announce it to the players that if it's a bang bang play they won't call the penalty unless there's something else wrong with the tackle, like targeting. He also says there is nothing wrong with Mahomes sliding late and taking advantage, he's playing within the rules that exist.

 




 
I felt heading into the game the Eagles could potentially blow KC out, but that there was no way KC could do the same. But that thought was because Barkley's been amazing. A bit surprised they did it with him not having a great game, but maybe KC sold out too much. The bigger story was the Eagles D vs. the Chiefs OL though. The Chiefs OTs have been bad all year but I think this was a problem across the board.

 
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I am 56, and I will be 57 in a few weeks. I love watching the 50+ crowd go crazy about the halftime show.

WE ARE NOT THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC!  

That being said, my son is a Kendrick Lamar fan.  His filling me in on the Drake stuff and a few other songs made it better for me.

There isn't an artist who could be cross-generational enough for everyone and that is OK.

 
Crusader Husker said:
I am 56, and I will be 57 in a few weeks. I love watching the 50+ crowd go crazy about the halftime show.

WE ARE NOT THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC!  

That being said, my son is a Kendrick Lamar fan.  His filling me in on the Drake stuff and a few other songs made it better for me.

There isn't an artist who could be cross-generational enough for everyone and that is OK.
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we must hang out in different parts of the internet.  i haven't seen any of that and i am over 60   FWIW i tuned out of the game before the halftime show started.....it wasn't a game.  it was more like watching a train wreck.  wonder how many others just stopped watching early on like i did

 
Crusader Husker said:
I am 56, and I will be 57 in a few weeks. I love watching the 50+ crowd go crazy about the halftime show.

WE ARE NOT THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC!  

That being said, my son is a Kendrick Lamar fan.  His filling me in on the Drake stuff and a few other songs made it better for me.

There isn't an artist who could be cross-generational enough for everyone and that is OK.
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kk..did a search and found a lot of people who thought the halftime show was....ummm....not sure i can repeat what they were saying outside of the shed.

 
When is someone going to explain to the NFL that having this game late on Sunday is stupid.

Move it to Saturday.  I could then still be on the couch, cuddled up under a blanket.

 
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