NO ONE IS GETTING FIRED - But Octavien should be cut!

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Ask Jason Peters what he thinks... then ask me. He will tell you the EXACT same thing, these kids lack heart and dont know what it really means to be a blackshirt... next!

 
Can you guys debate this without throwing insults? We can all agree to disagree.

There isn't any debating this guy. In his eyes, you either agree with him or you're a total idiot, band-wagon fan who doesn't know sh#t. He hasn't made one comment worth a damn. Not claiming I have considering I was gonna stay out of this crap until he made his holier-than-thou comments.

 
Can you guys debate this without throwing insults? We can all agree to disagree.

There isn't any debating this guy. In his eyes, you either agree with him or you're a total idiot, band-wagon fan who doesn't know sh#t. He hasn't made one comment worth a damn. Not claiming I have considering I was gonna stay out of this crap until he made his holier-than-thou comments.
Yeah..I'm guilty too.

I read the title and figured it was just a K State fan trying to stir up trouble.

But read it anyway, because of his start date (4 Years ago).

(Now trying to fight the urge to ask where he sits)

 
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Can you guys debate this without throwing insults? We can all agree to disagree.

There isn't any debating this guy. In his eyes, you either agree with him or you're a total idiot, band-wagon fan who doesn't know sh#t. He hasn't made one comment worth a damn. Not claiming I have considering I was gonna stay out of this crap until he made his holier-than-thou comments.
Have your opinion, I have mine... and then you hurl insults because I wont agree with you and made you feel less important for being an arm chair fan? Thats your problem matey. The point on this thread is having heart, playing like a champion and calling it the way it is. Beyond that, nothing else matters in this thread. And if you are so upset about it, GO READ A DIFFERENT ONE! No one has a gun to your head!

 
Can you guys debate this without throwing insults? We can all agree to disagree.

There isn't any debating this guy. In his eyes, you either agree with him or you're a total idiot, band-wagon fan who doesn't know sh#t. He hasn't made one comment worth a damn. Not claiming I have considering I was gonna stay out of this crap until he made his holier-than-thou comments.
Yeah..I'm guilty too.

I read the title and figured it was just a K State fan trying to stir up trouble.

But read it anyway, because of his start date (4 Years ago).

(Now trying to fight the urge to ask where he sits)
Ask, I am not ashamed of my opinions nor about how I express them. Last time I heard, this was America and we could speak freely... if you dont like it, change channels.

 
I've never been a violent person (except twice in self defense), but this post/thread just made me realize I probably can't watch another game in person or in a bar.

If somebody next to me started booing my team, I'd probably have to put them down.
It almost happened saturday. Some fat loud mouth 2 rows behind me just about got thrown down the steps by several of us.
Because he booed? I am sure he had to be more insulting than that. I don't believe in booing college kids but I DO believe everyone has the right to say/boo whatever they want as long as it isn't insulting to those around them with derogatory language. If you can't handle hearing someone boo then that is a testament to your character as well.
No, it wasn't just because he booed. He would not shut up all game and had absolutely nothing polite, positive to say. Not only was he negative, he was completely off base, out of line and uninformed. There was a lady that sat next to us that drove 9 hours with her daughter to go to this game that had a miserable experience because of this person. Towards the end of the game he was hearing it from pretty much everyone. I just don't understand why people bother to spend time and money on something that they can't stand and are so negative about. I didn't boo and I don't believe in it.

 
Ask, I am not ashamed of my opinions nor about how I express them. Last time I heard, this was America and we could speak freely... if you dont like it, change channels.
Just to be clear, in general you are correct. However, you still must abide by the rules laid forth by the guy who pays for this site. You don't just have a free pass to go ape.

I am not saying that you have, but I just wanted to put that out there.

 
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Can you guys debate this without throwing insults? We can all agree to disagree.

There isn't any debating this guy. In his eyes, you either agree with him or you're a total idiot, band-wagon fan who doesn't know sh#t. He hasn't made one comment worth a damn. Not claiming I have considering I was gonna stay out of this crap until he made his holier-than-thou comments.
Yeah..I'm guilty too.

I read the title and figured it was just a K State fan trying to stir up trouble.

But read it anyway, because of his start date (4 Years ago).

(Now trying to fight the urge to ask where he sits)
Ask, I am not ashamed of my opinions nor about how I express them. Last time I heard, this was America and we could speak freely... if you dont like it, change channels.
OK..Where do you sit, specifically?

 
Can you guys debate this without throwing insults? We can all agree to disagree.

There isn't any debating this guy. In his eyes, you either agree with him or you're a total idiot, band-wagon fan who doesn't know sh#t. He hasn't made one comment worth a damn. Not claiming I have considering I was gonna stay out of this crap until he made his holier-than-thou comments.
Yeah..I'm guilty too.

I read the title and figured it was just a K State fan trying to stir up trouble.

But read it anyway, because of his start date (4 Years ago).

(Now trying to fight the urge to ask where he sits)
Ask, I am not ashamed of my opinions nor about how I express them. Last time I heard, this was America and we could speak freely... if you dont like it, change channels.
And you'd be totally correct if this were a government-run site.

 
its like a pyramid. the peak is the top thats the coach. and it works downhill from there.

If the D coordinator is fiery and full of emotion and has a killem all mentality then it will transcend to the players.

If the D coordinator has a laid back read and react type mentality then it will transcend to the players.

I have a good friend that was a LB in the mid 90's. I love his stories of McBride. Spitting and screaming and cursing and ranting and raving and telling his team noone comes in our house and embarrasses Mr. Osborne and when they give the ball to so and so rip his fuccccking head off. Look the guy across from you in the eye and then tear his nuts off. My buddy told me Mcbride would get so worked up he couldnt talk. My buddy played special teams, really never saw the field that much but today, still he would lay down and die for mcbride his words not mine. in practice mcbride would almost try to encourage fights against the offense, he wanted mean a$$ players and he motivated and instilled a mean aggressive attitude .

It starts at the top and the top of our pyramid is a dull point. a coach with no fire, no guts, no motivation.

as mcbride got better players he put them in positions to make plays

coz does the opposite, although octo was hurt most of last year he entered the yr second string because he wasnt in the right spot all the time. give me a playmaker all day long and then put him in spots to make plays. dont take playmakers switch them to offense and leave them 6th string just cuz you have disciplined yet soft players .

enough im starting to get too worked up.

coz is a puss, he coaches like a puss therefor his players for the most part play like pussies

 
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