No Rumor, No one has spoken with Bo

[Hedley Lamarr]

Lurker here.

been watching what people are saying to Hedley. People might be wise to realize that he's trying to pass on some legit info.

Regarding Knevel, he was ready to pull the trigger to be N, but got cold feet after the game last Saturday and then the Bama offer came in. No idea if he would have visited Bama if the Huskers had shown a bit better but it was a perfect storm, so to speak.

regarding Bo's job search. I can vouche 100% for Neil Cornish, Bo's agent, putting his name out for multiple jobs the past two years. I heard this directly from people associated with the football program so it's no secret. To bash Hedley for saying this is unfair. I have no stake in this game other than that I hate it when someone with negative news gets hammered for reporting it and then stuff gets personal. Truth is, Bo asked his agent to investigate the Illinois and Mississippi jobs last year, as well as Tennessee, Arkansas, and Auburn this year. If people want to spin it, so be it, but Hedley is correct.

the thing is, many coaches have their agents do this (bob Stoops is a master) in order to improve their position vis a vis their AD and negotiate bonuses and raises. I'm sure bo thought he would win vs Wisconsin and parlay that win into something more lucrative (either in Lincoln or elsewhere) but it blew up due to the team's performance. What's troubling is how public this has been in terms of all the rumors. It hurts the team, it hurts recruiting and it hurts Bo. The only person who gained from this circumstance was Sean Eichorst who now knows that Bo has no negotiating position unless or until he wins something of significance.

Thank you. People can claim I'm full of it all they want. Unfortunately I'm not. I thought it was pretty well known that Bo liked to have his agent throw his name around. Best part is when he won't even say not interested when asked he just ignores it as no big deal. Bad PR move if you ask me.

He could actually win a few fans back if he came out and publicly said I don't want to leave NU etc. even if he did it would still make him more popular with many.

 

[NUance]

First of all, I think it's a good bet that Arkansas has been talking to a number of coaches during the past several months--not just Bo and Bret in the past couple of weeks. Earlier this season Bienema was on the hot seat at Wisconsin. Or at least receiving a LOT of heat for dropping several games. So it's likely that he spoke with Arkansas at some point (conjecture by me). I don't think Bo was under quite as much pressure, even though he laid a couple of eggs during the season (read: UCLA, tOSU). Still, it's hard to say whether he spoke with Arky or not---at least due to him thinking he might get fired.

From a financial perspective, it makes about as much sense that the Razorbacks would've gone after Bo as compared to Bret. Bo makes slightly more, but has a smaller buyout:

• Bo: 9-2 record in 2012 (before CCG), making $2.9 million/yr, contract thru 2016; Buyout = $250k (one time pmt, I think) LINK
  
• Bienema: 7-5 record in 2012 (before CCG), making $2.6 million/yr, contract thru 2015; Buyout = $1.0 million total (one time pmt, I think) LINK
  

So did Bo talk to Arkansas about the job? Who knows? And who cares, anyway? I don't want to see Pelini leave. But we live in a free-market economy here in the good ole USA (mostly). If someone thinks they can do better elsewhere, then they are free to pursue other opportunities. That is, if they don't mind breaking a few promises and leaving their players and staff high and dry.

As for the Vols, Did Bo talk to Tennessee? Ha ha! No. Clown question bro. :lol:

 

[knapplc]

He could actually win a few fans back if he came out and publicly said I don't want to leave NU etc. even if he did it would still make him more popular with many.

Gosh, if only Bo had done that.

Pelini: Arkansas speculation 'ludicrous'
Bo Pelini says he's happy at Nebraska and that it's ''ludicrous'' his name is being connected to the coaching vacancy at Arkansas.

Pelini is among several coaches who have been mentioned in media speculation about possible replacements for Bobby Petrino, who was fired Tuesday for failing to disclose his relationship with a 25-year-old former Razorbacks volleyball player he hired last month without disclosing his conflict of interest or the fact he had once paid her $20,000.

Pelini said Wednesday he believes Nebraska is a ''destination job'' and that he's concentrating on winning a championship with the Cornhuskers and having the best possible team this fall.

Pelini was defensive coordinator in the Southeastern Conference at LSU before Nebraska hired him in 2008. He's 38-16 in four seasons.

If only you knew a "large booster" who could have clued you in about this. Too bad not everyone is so connected.

To google.

 

[Creighton Duke]

There are many examples of great football players from the Golden Age of football (maybe 20s and 30s) who were high draft picks, but did not pursue a professionial career because it was more profitable to do something else. Without the pay incentive, who is gonna put themselves through the hard work and danger that it takes to be a pro player?

The same thing works with being a medical doctor. How many people would kill themsleves in undergrad to make the grades, kill themselves in medical school, and wipe themselves out in residency to become a doctor if the pay wasn't great? Nobody would.

Relating back to coaching, without the pay incentive that comes with teams performing at a very high level, coaches would put their unique skillsets into something that would maximize their earning. As a society, we need to reward high-performing indiviuals in professions that we place a high priority on. How many of you are willing to watch bad football on Saturdays and Sundays? Think about it for a bit.

The analogy falls apart when you realize that doctors are needed by society. While I love sports, and recognize there is a lot of good that comes from sport, I also don't deceive myself into thinking that it is fundamentally about anything more than entertainment and dollar signs. These men work extremely hard at what they do, absolutely. But there would still be plenty of men that would be willing to do it because they love it, even if they weren't getting paid tens of millions of dollars. Nebraska fans should know this better than most with our walk-on program. Meanwhile, the average family in the world has to try on live on less than $2 per day.

Not to get on an ideological soap box, but I just can't see any way of reconciling the reality of our enormous excesses in sport and just in our culture in general when the stakes are so high and people have so very, very little.

The fallacy is your argument is that you assume that you know what is "needed" by society. "Needed" is a relative term. People lived for millions of years without professionals with the training or medical supplies/technology that we have today. You still have plenty of people living in parts of the world who are untouched by any kind of technological advances that rely on the "skills" of, for lack of a better term, shamans.

If that example is a bit far-fetched, consider, again, the necessity of medical doctors. Using myself as an example, I haven't been to the doctor for any medical work in over five years (illness, injury, etc.). I have been to an office for physicals that were usually performed by a nurse or once by a physician's assistant. At that, roughly 90% of those tests could be conducted by an individual with very little, yet specialized training. On the other hand, I watch football every Saturday for 4 months out of the year. To me personally, the services of football coaches hit closer to home. I am more able to realize the services of excellent coaching.

I also disagree that normaly guys would be willing to coach at high levels for very little. First, within a short period of time, they would overinflate their own value and feel the need to leverage their position into higher pay. Second, look at the carousel of highly qualifed coaches that DID NOT want the position after Bill Callahan was fired. They didn't want the pressure/expectations associated with the job. Average joe working middle management would love the job for about a week and then would melt under the pressure and need to taken out on a stretcher.

It is unfortunate that society allocates their priorities the way that they do, but until you and every single one of your friends, and every single one of their friends, etc. stop giving the attention to entertainment the way that they do, be prepared to deal with this situation for the long haul.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

He could actually win a few fans back if he came out and publicly said I don't want to leave NU etc. even if he did it would still make him more popular with many.

Gosh, if only Bo had done that.

Pelini: Arkansas speculation 'ludicrous'
Bo Pelini says he's happy at Nebraska and that it's ''ludicrous'' his name is being connected to the coaching vacancy at Arkansas.

Pelini is among several coaches who have been mentioned in media speculation about possible replacements for Bobby Petrino, who was fired Tuesday for failing to disclose his relationship with a 25-year-old former Razorbacks volleyball player he hired last month without disclosing his conflict of interest or the fact he had once paid her $20,000.

Pelini said Wednesday he believes Nebraska is a ''destination job'' and that he's concentrating on winning a championship with the Cornhuskers and having the best possible team this fall.

Pelini was defensive coordinator in the Southeastern Conference at LSU before Nebraska hired him in 2008. He's 38-16 in four seasons.

If only you knew a "large booster" who could have clued you in about this. Too bad not everyone is so connected.

To google.

Yeah when was that article published? What day did all these schools hire coaches? Bo calls it a destination job then shops his name to anyone who will listen.

 

[knapplc]

Yeah when was that article published? What day did all these schools hire coaches? Bo calls it a destination job then shops his name to anyone who will listen.

Bo hasn't "shopped his name" to anyone. Just stop.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

Yeah when was that article published? What day did all these schools hire coaches? Bo calls it a destination job then shops his name to anyone who will listen.

Bo hasn't "shopped his name" to anyone. Just stop.

My mistake Bo's Agent has shopped his name around

 

[Count 'Bility]

He could actually win a few fans back if he came out and publicly said I don't want to leave NU etc. even if he did it would still make him more popular with many.

Gosh, if only Bo had done that.

Pelini: Arkansas speculation 'ludicrous'
Bo Pelini says he's happy at Nebraska and that it's ''ludicrous'' his name is being connected to the coaching vacancy at Arkansas.

Pelini is among several coaches who have been mentioned in media speculation about possible replacements for Bobby Petrino, who was fired Tuesday for failing to disclose his relationship with a 25-year-old former Razorbacks volleyball player he hired last month without disclosing his conflict of interest or the fact he had once paid her $20,000.

Pelini said Wednesday he believes Nebraska is a ''destination job'' and that he's concentrating on winning a championship with the Cornhuskers and having the best possible team this fall.

Pelini was defensive coordinator in the Southeastern Conference at LSU before Nebraska hired him in 2008. He's 38-16 in four seasons.

If only you knew a "large booster" who could have clued you in about this. Too bad not everyone is so connected.

To google.

My "booster" source whom happens to know the Pelini family quite well (through church I might add) reiterates that Mary Pat will not allow the family to be uprooted from Lincoln at this time or any in the near future. They are perfectly happy here, win or lose. I keep repeating this only becuause it's what I've been told. No more believeable or factual than anything else.

 

[HuskerNationNick]

Yeah when was that article published? What day did all these schools hire coaches? Bo calls it a destination job then shops his name to anyone who will listen.

Bo hasn't "shopped his name" to anyone. Just stop.

My mistake Bo's Agent has shopped his name around

Why hello Bo's agent!

 

[VA Husker Fan]

These coaches get a small portion of what they actually earn for each game, so in the University's eyes, they aren't forking out much for the game. They make more than 5.5 million in ticket revenue every game, plus TV contracts and the venues. I am not sure how much they get paid for away games, but I know for a fact its in the millions somewhere. Next year, Nebraska will get over 6.5 million for home games, bringing in about 52 million dollars in home games alone. I think they can afford what they pay easily. Many of your professional columnists and former coaches will tell you how stressful a HC position in FBS/FCS is. Your working 18hr day shifts. Getting up at 4am and getting home long past dark. Thats why these coaches work their tail off to become an NFL coach, where its much easier. No recruiting, just team management.

You make it sound like the coach is the sole reason the revenue comes in.

 

[EZ-E]

Believe it was said that a high level booster of NU asked the AD at Arkansas who he is friends with directly if anyone representing Bo Pelini had contacted him regarding the job. The response was no.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

It behooves the agent to let the world know his client is a desirable product.

The agent generally invites the speculation and drafts the "ludicrous" denial at the same time.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

The huge sports salaries across the board - college & pro - are based almost entirely on the huge television contracts the Leagues and Conferences have negotiated over the years.

For that $3 million, Bo Pelini can afford to smile when answering a stupid halftime question.

 

[HuskerNationNick]

These coaches get a small portion of what they actually earn for each game, so in the University's eyes, they aren't forking out much for the game. They make more than 5.5 million in ticket revenue every game, plus TV contracts and the venues. I am not sure how much they get paid for away games, but I know for a fact its in the millions somewhere. Next year, Nebraska will get over 6.5 million for home games, bringing in about 52 million dollars in home games alone. I think they can afford what they pay easily. Many of your professional columnists and former coaches will tell you how stressful a HC position in FBS/FCS is. Your working 18hr day shifts. Getting up at 4am and getting home long past dark. Thats why these coaches work their tail off to become an NFL coach, where its much easier. No recruiting, just team management.

You make it sound like the coach is the sole reason the revenue comes in.

How does it even remotely sound like that? I think you are reading it completely wrong. I am just saying that the coaches get a small portion of what comes in and how stressful the job really is. Its not a job that is cut out for anyone, and that is why many of them work their way up to the NFL, so they get paid more, with less work, IE recruiting.

 

[junior4949]

If Hedley has some inside info on stuff that is great but when he post it in a manner like he hates everyone on the staff or football team then yeah people are going to say stuff.

I don't hate anyone on staff or the team. Do I think several or in over their heads? Oh heck yes I do. NU doesn't need to train a coaching staff. What other top 10 programs train most of their staff on the job? That's my problem with the staff.

The players I have no issue with. They are here because of the staff. If they are struggling etc I blame the staff. You may say well players will make mistakes. That is correct but making the same mistake for 12 games is no longer the players fault. That should be corrected and if it isn't there should be someone else to sub in.

We Don't have depth at many important positions so we can't sub in. Again who does that fall on? The coaching staff.

I guess it all depends on one's definition of top 10 programs, but OU did it when they hired Bob Stoops. Notre Dame did it when they hired Charlie Weiss.