Pre-Season Coaches Poll Released

[ScottyIce]

Nebraska fans have an incredibly inflated sense of self worth and therefore entitlement.

Here's a list of teams whose fans similarly suffer from an "incredibly inflated sense of self worth and therefore entitlement."
Air Force

Akron

Alabama

Appalachian State

Arizona

Arizona State

Arkansas

Arkansas State

Army West Point

Auburn

Ball State

Baylor

Blue Mountain State

Boise State

Boston College

Bowling Green

Buffalo

BYU

California

Fresno State

UCLA

UCF

Central Michigan

Charlotte

Cincinnati

Clemson

Colorado

Colorado State

Connecticut

Duke

Eastern Michigan

East Carolina

FIU

Florida

Florida Atlantic

Florida State

Georgia

Georgia Southern

Georgia State

Georgia Tech

Hawai'i

Houston

Idaho

Illinois

Indiana

Iowa

Iowa State

Kansas

Kansas State

Kent State

Kentucky

LSU

Louisiana Tech

Louisiana-Lafayette

Louisiana-Monroe

Louisville

Marshall

Maryland

Massachusetts

Memphis

Miami (FL)

Miami (OH)

Michigan

Michigan State

Middle Tennessee

Minnesota

Ole Miss

Mississippi State

Missouri

Navy

Nebraska

Nevada

UNLV

New Mexico

New Mexico State

North Carolina

NC State

North Texas

NIU

Northwestern

Notre Dame

Ohio

Ohio State

Oklahoma

Oklahoma State

Old Dominion

Oregon

Oregon State

Penn State

Pittsburgh

Purdue

Rice

Rutgers

San Diego State

San Jose State

South Alabama

South Carolina

South Florida

USC

SMU

Southern Miss

Stanford

Syracuse

TCU

Temple

Tennessee

Texas

Texas A&M

Texas State

Texas Tech

UTEP

UTSA

Toledo

Troy

Tulane

Tulsa

Utah

Utah State

Vanderbilt

Virginia

Virginia Tech

Wake Forest

Washington

Washington State

West Virginia

Western Kentucky

Western Michigan

Wisconsin

Wyoming

FIFY

 

[Saunders]

Like it or not, the polls drive the media buzz until the playoff rankings come out halfway through the season. They are important for national coverage, which helps with recruiting. Nebraska fans didn't start dismissing the importance of them until NU started not being in them.

This poll is not important, no matter how you look at it. And besides, we expected to not be ranked heading into the season.

Want media coverage? Want ESPN GameDay on site? Want offseason (and regular season) hype?

Be ranked in the polls.

 

[Saunders]

The only poll that matters is the one released midway through the season that actually counts towards the final 4.

Unfortunately, for the first half of the season, you've gotta rely on the AP and Coaches poll, because that's what the media uses. It's correct to say that for the goals of winning a championship, they don't matter. it's also correct to say that they drive the narrative for coverage, and can affect recruiting interest, for a good portion of the year.

 

[Redux]

Like it or not, the polls drive the media buzz until the playoff rankings come out halfway through the season. They are important for national coverage, which helps with recruiting. Nebraska fans didn't start dismissing the importance of them until NU started not being in them.

This poll is not important, no matter how you look at it. And besides, we expected to not be ranked heading into the season.

Want media coverage? Want ESPN GameDay on site? Want offseason (and regular season) hype?
Be ranked in the polls.

We have 1 marquee home conference opponent in week 3 coming off a 6-7 season. We aren't getting gameday. We will get coverage by winning and earning a spot in the polls.

Come on, you know damn well THIS specific poll is pretty meaningless in the preseason. The coaches poll holds some merit after a few weeks, but you and I both know they don't watch the games because they don't have time.

 

[Redux]

The only poll that matters is the one released midway through the season that actually counts towards the final 4.

Unfortunately, for the first half of the season, you've gotta rely on the AP and Coaches poll, because that's what the media uses. It's correct to say that for the goals of winning a championship, they don't matter. it's also correct to say that they drive the narrative for coverage, and can affect recruiting interest, for a good portion of the year.

The only rankings that really matter are #1-#4 after championship weekend.

Yeah, a nice #X by our name makes us look better to recruits and etc. If we win, we will get that #X.

 

[BigRedBuster]

Preseason polls don't mean as much as some are making them out to be.

Go undefeated or one loss and win the conference and we are in the playoffs. Simple as that.

Polls have been demoted as far as importance and that's a good thing.

 

[BigRedBuster]

I've learned one thing.

If we ever win another national championship, it will be because some fans have been pissed off at the world for decades.

Or maybe despite some!

Oh...no.

You see, these people personally hold everyone accountable in the program. Without these pissed off fans, we would have nothing good.

 

[Saunders]

Like it or not, the polls drive the media buzz until the playoff rankings come out halfway through the season. They are important for national coverage, which helps with recruiting. Nebraska fans didn't start dismissing the importance of them until NU started not being in them.

This poll is not important, no matter how you look at it. And besides, we expected to not be ranked heading into the season.

Want media coverage? Want ESPN GameDay on site? Want offseason (and regular season) hype?
Be ranked in the polls.

We have 1 marquee home conference opponent in week 3 coming off a 6-7 season. We aren't getting gameday. We will get coverage by winning and earning a spot in the polls.

Come on, you know damn well THIS specific poll is pretty meaningless in the preseason. The coaches poll holds some merit after a few weeks, but you and I both know they don't watch the games because they don't have time.

I'm talking about the polls in general, which is why I referenced both. They drive the narrative. I don't really care whether or not NU is ranked right now, but that doesn't mean that the polls don't matter.

 

[Saunders]

Preseason polls don't mean as much as some are making them out to be.

Go undefeated or one loss and win the conference and we are in the playoffs. Simple as that.

Polls have been demoted as far as importance and that's a good thing.

Counterpoint: 2014 and the "SEC being the best conf/division ever" being the main narrative of the entire season was derived from the pre-season polls. When overrated A&M spanked overrated South Carolina, it built a massive house of cards to inflate the entire division and conference so that it dominated the talk of the season. Remember the early playoff projections being 3-4 SEC teams? That's because of the pre-season and early season polls.

Now, ultimately it worked itself out... BUT, there's no denying that it was a huge boon to the SEC for recruiting and media coverage.

 

[knapplc]

Preseason polls don't mean as much as some are making them out to be.

Go undefeated or one loss and win the conference and we are in the playoffs. Simple as that.

Polls have been demoted as far as importance and that's a good thing.

Counterpoint: 2014 and the "SEC being the best conf/division ever" being the main narrative of the entire season was derived from the pre-season polls. When overrated A&M spanked overrated South Carolina, it built a massive house of cards to inflate the entire division and conference so that it dominated the talk of the season. Remember the early playoff projections being 3-4 SEC teams? That's because of the pre-season and early season polls.

Now, ultimately it worked itself out... BUT, there's no denying that it was a huge boon to the SEC for recruiting and media coverage.

What tangible benefit can you point to for the SEC in either recruiting or media coverage?

And when you discuss media coverage, how did those preseason polls affect that coverage? How much less would they have gotten were there no polls before the BCS comes out in October? Would the media have ignored the SEC were there no preseason polls, would they have covered the SEC more, less, or about the same? Why do you think that?

 

[Saunders]

Preseason polls don't mean as much as some are making them out to be.

Go undefeated or one loss and win the conference and we are in the playoffs. Simple as that.

Polls have been demoted as far as importance and that's a good thing.

Counterpoint: 2015 and the "SEC being the best conf/division ever" being the main narrative of the entire season was derived from the pre-season polls. When overrated A&M spanked overrated South Carolina, it built a massive house of cards to inflate the entire division and conference so that it dominated the talk of the season. Remember the early playoff projections being 3-4 SEC teams? That's because of the pre-season and early season polls.

Now, ultimately it worked itself out... BUT, there's no denying that it was a huge boon to the SEC for recruiting and media coverage.

What tangible benefit can you point to for the SEC in either recruiting or media coverage?

And when you discuss media coverage, how did those preseason polls affect that coverage? How much less would they have gotten were there no polls before the BCS comes out in October? Would the media have ignored the SEC were there no preseason polls, would they have covered the SEC more, less, or about the same? Why do you think that?

Don't you remember the hype during 2014 about how great the SEC West (and the rest of the conference) was? That entire narrative was created and driven because of pre-season polls. When top 10 A&M clubbed top 10 S. Carolina, it led to a domino effect after those teams won/lost games for the first 6 weeks, only to realize they were pretty bad. The problem is, they helped puff up the rank of teams (arkansas, Ole Miss, MSU, etc..) that didn't deserve it. Yet we had to listen to the praise of the "single toughest division ever" for the entire season, only to see it was a fraud during the post season.

I remember recruits commenting when they committed to those schools that they were going to be playing in "basically the NFL." When you compare that type of hype to media members calling the Big Ten West "the worst power 5 division" (which wasn't true) that exact same year, I think it's fair to assume that it affects recruiting.

 

[knapplc]

I remember the hype. I'd like to know what tangible benefit that hype garnered them. Especially when reality crashed in just a few weeks into the season.

If anything, 2014 is the poster child against these preseason polls.

 

[Saunders]

I remember the hype. I'd like to know what tangible benefit that hype garnered them. Especially when reality crashed in just a few weeks into the season.

If anything, 2014 is the poster child against these preseason polls.

Huh? It didn't crash until after the bowls (when they went 2-5). They had 3 SEC West teams projected into the playoff in mid November. I would call the 24/7 media hype for the first 10 weeks of the season, tangible.

 

[knapplc]

Hype isn't tangible, it's words. It didn't get them multiple teams in the playoffs and it didn't get them any better bowls than they would have gotten anyway. All it did was create a lot of sound & fury signifying nothing.

But the SEC, and specifically the SEC West, has always gotten a lot of hype. They already rake in tons of recruits every year - was there a noticeable spike in their recruiting rankings that year?

Did that inflated 2014 poll really garner them anything? Or just create distractions from better stories, and at the same time annoy the pants off the rest of college football who wanted to watch other conferences?

 

[Redux]

The SEC gets the early hype like they do every year. It's a way to justify all the coverage they are going to receive. Their early rankings are a result of anticipated coverage, not the other way around.